Coach Tracking Thread

Discussion in 'Colorado Rapids' started by JasonMa, Jun 2, 2018.

  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I figured its now time to pull this out of the Pablo thread and make a generic thread for is:

    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.7059
    2. 1999 - Mooch - 1.59375
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.5333
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.4412
    7. 1998 - Mooch - 1.4375
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.40625
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    11. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    11. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    13. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2000 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.03125*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.667

    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    6. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    7. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    8. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    9. Hudson - 12 Games - 0.67
    10. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
     
  2. Andy126

    Andy126 Member

    Mar 31, 2017
    Yeesh. That hurts the eyes to even look at. My God.
     
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  3. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Probably not premature to put an asterisk after Hudson's 0.667?
     
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  4. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has anyone told Hudson that being behind Houghton and Cooke isn't a good thing? It's pathetic to look back at the Hankinson era as "the good old days."
     
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  5. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Hudson and Cooke have made Mastro look genus.
     
  6. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Maybe more like tallest kid at 'fat camp'?
     
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  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1.09 pts/game the rest of the way to avoid the worst season in club history. That’s better than Pablo did in any non-2016 season.
     
  8. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Sad that we have gone from "How many average pts to make the playoffs" to "how many average pts to avoid being the worst Rapids team ever".

    Hard to imagine people keeping jobs with that bar, there has to be some way out of contracts. (man, I really wish I had one of those contracts. Fail miserably and get paid for a multi-year vacation!)
     
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  9. jayd8888

    jayd8888 Member+

    Aug 22, 2006
    Denver CO
    Pariah's 2012 season was a comparative carnival of fun festival. Back then, I thought that was a low. My how we've been spoon fed garbage.
     
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  10. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    But it has a crispy texture and smoky flavor from the dumpster fire.
     
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  11. fischerw

    fischerw Member+

    Sep 15, 2004
    Joplin, MO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You'd think that the Front Office would at least consider some kind of clause about terrible performance, wouldn't you? Especially when they're on the hook to Pablo for another year?

    I've been thinking a lot about whether KSE cares enough to do anything about Smith and Hudson. On the one hand, as many have pointed out, most MLS owners really aren't trying, or even expecting, to make a profit off of MLS clubs. It's much more about asset appreciation than it is about quarterly profits.

    But damn, mustn't how bad the Rapids are eventually make you wonder about the value of the asset? Mustn't the valuation of, say, Sporting Kansas City be much, much higher than it was back before it had an ownership group who gave a damn?

    I don't understand 21st-century capitalism. ESPECIALLY not sports-related!
     
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  12. fortcollins

    fortcollins Member+

    St. Louis City SC
    Apr 12, 2006
    Fort Collins
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    mmmmm . . . hāngī-steamed tastes-like-chicken . . .
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.7059
    2. 1999 - Mooch - 1.59375
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.5333
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.4412
    7. 1998 - Mooch - 1.4375
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.40625
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    11. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    11. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    13. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2000 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.03125*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.64

    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    6. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    7. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    8. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    9. Hudson - 14 Games - 0.64
    10. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
     
  14. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.7059
    2. 1999 - Mooch - 1.59375
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.5333
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.4412
    7. 1998 - Mooch - 1.4375
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.40625
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    11. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    11. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    13. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2000 - Mooch - 1.1875
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.03125*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2018 - Hudson - 0.9375
    23. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*


    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    6. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    7. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    8. Hudson - 16 Games - 0.94
    9. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    10. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A

    We're now doing better this year than we did after firing Pablo last year.
     
  15. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    Woo hoo! Turning the corner, baby!
     
  16. COMtnGuy

    COMtnGuy Member+

    Apr 5, 2012
    Higher than you
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, Opponent Defenders falling down and Own Goaling our way to from the depths.
     
  17. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the midway point of the season:

    Season-by-season; Asterisks indicate years we missed the playoffs:

    1. 2016 - Mastroeni - 1.706
    2. 1999 - Mooch - 1.594
    3. 2010 - Smith - 1.533
    4. 2002 - Hankinson - 1.5
    4. 2013 - Pareja - 1.5
    6. 2011 - Smith - 1.441
    7. 1998 - Mooch - 1.438
    8. 2005 - Clavijo - 1.406
    9. 2004 - Hankinson - 1.367
    10. 2009 - Smith - 1.3333*
    11. 1997 - Mooch - 1.28125
    11. 2006 - Clavijo - 1.28125
    13. 2003 - Hankinson - 1.267
    13. 2008 - Clavijo/Smith - 1.267*
    15. 2000 - Mooch - 1.188
    16. 2007 - Clavijo - 1.167*
    17. 2012 - Pareja - 1.08823*
    17. 2015 - Mastroeni - 1.08823*
    19. 1996 - Houghton/Wegerle - 1.031*
    20. 2017 - Mastroeni/Cooke - 0.971*
    21. 2014 - Mastroeni - 0.941*
    22. 2001 - Hankinson - 0.923*
    23. 2018 - Hudson - 0.882

    All-Time Overall:

    1. Smith - 104 Games - 1.43
    2. Mooch - 128 Games - 1.41
    3. Hankinson - 114 Games - 1.29
    3. Pareja - 68 Games - 1.29
    5. Mastroeni - 124 Games - 1.20
    6. Clavijo - 114 Games - 1.18
    7. Houghton - 31 Games - 1.06
    8. Cooke - 12 Games - 0.92
    9. Hudson - 16 Games - 0.88
    10. Wegerle - 1 Game - 0.00

    Playoff series records:

    1. Smith 4-1 - .800 - Won MLS Cup
    2. Clavijo - 2-2 - .500
    3. Mastroeni - 1-1 - .500
    4. Mooch 2-4 - .333 - MLS Cup appearance
    5. Hankinson - 1-3 - .250
    6. Pareja - 0-1 - .000
    7. Houghton - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Wegerle - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Cooke - Never qualified - N/A
    7. Hudson - Never qualified - N/A
     
  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We need to average exactly 1 point a game the rest of the way to avoid our worst season ever.
     
  19. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Without pulling out SAS or something like that to do an actual analysis of the chances of averaging 1 pt/match for the rest of the season, I can confidently say the chances of that are:

    0.000000000001, though I may be off by one zero either way.
     
  20. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm actually significantly more optimistic than that. I wouldn't be shocked for us to do that and avoid the worst season ever.

    Not much more than that though.
     
  21. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    I am too, if only because regression to the mean seems to pull in both directions, at least in US sports leagues.

    (Thankfully we don't get those multi-level relegation tailspins that end up in administration and insolvency. Our sports failures have floors....more like big tire fires.)
     
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  22. Dom. FC

    Dom. FC Member+

    May 10, 2004
    Central US
    Plugged that into my car and it instantly disappeared, guess I should have gotten in first.

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Rod1916

    Rod1916 Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Colorado
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Who are you and where is Jason?
     
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  24. RapidStorm

    RapidStorm Member+

    Jan 30, 2005
    Denver, CO
    How did New Zealand almost make the World Cup with this guy?
     
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  25. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado
    I guess you have to be really really bad to finish 2nd to the likes of New Caledonia, the Solomon Islands, and Tahiti.
     
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