GOP criticizes student get-out-the-vote campaign Nice. Once again, the GOP thinly veils their desire to suppress the poor/minority vote with "they're Democrat-biased" crap. Doesn't matter who the sponsor advocates, the people doing the legwork are students who are too young to vote, for Chrissakes.
Everyone on the right wing is working a "suppress the vote" message, from George Will to Mallard Fillmore. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/georgewill/gw20041024.shtml http://www.jewishworldreview.com/strips/mallard/2000/mallard1.asp
Andy they always base their argument on the notion that people who are ill informed shouldn't vote, which is rather amusing now that we know how uninformed many Bush voters are.
about 12% http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/55000.html compared to 15-16% in your state. http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42000.html Not that big a difference.
Taking inner city school kids (of who most can't read) out of school to go around getting Kerry votes is a big deal. Particularly when several 11-year olds were caught early voting.
This reminds me of an editorial piece by a local politician. A good example of how uninformed they think voters are. She actually thinks that voters aren't aware that they can vote for any candidate, not just for the party they are registered with. http://www.franklin1st.com/issues/barr1026.htm
whoa, whoa, whoa! since when do you have to have evidence to back up your claims?? this completely undermines the dems complaints of voter supression.. hehe
Three links in the first two posts. I won't speak for Meanie, but I'm not a democrat. Republicans do have a long, proud tradition of voter suppression. Hence, the urgency for negative campaigning.
the three links in the first two posts do nothing to support the assumption that Republicans are trying to "supress" voters.. They do, however, lay out examples of shady politics and voter fraud by democrats and what republicans are doing to fight it...
If it were Republicans doing the same thing we'd hear people complaining that they were using the children to further their agenda. So what's the difference here?
Didn't read those links, but there's this: efforts by the State of Florida in 2000 to clean up the voting lists resulted in significant numbers of legitimate (mostly black and mostly democratic) voters being incorrectly struck from the lists. The company that did the clean-up was hired by Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris and mostly does partisan work for Republican backed candidates and causes. There's another thread on this board about GOP led efforts to put people into mostly black and democratic wards in Florida to challenge individual voters. A poster there who recently started as an election worker for Miami-Dade described the process of challenging a voter's registration. It involves shutting down the polling place while the on site officials talk to the voter and the challenger. More than a handful of challenges (and what the Florida GOP is planning to do is a waste of time unless they expect to make a significant number of challenges) would result in nobody being able to vote for as long as it takes to resolve all the challenges. Counterfactual conditionals don't make much of an argument, but if it's all you've got....
Do us all a favor and get off your high horse. You keep bringing up Florida, but this isn't about Florida. It's about a bunch of kids in junior and senior high skipping school to register voters.
You sound like a pleasant person. Oh, wait...I meant to say you sound like ********ing **************.
I brought up Florida because Kelly Vargas made a more general comment about voter supression and the GOP. This isn't only about teenagers doing voter registration work either; it's also about Republicans who indulge in kneejerk criticism of actions that will result in more voters in areas where they won't get a lot of votes.
If the Reep kids doing it were wearing Bush pins and telling people to vote for Bush then yeah we'd be complaining. But these teens aren't wearing Kerry pins and telling people to vote for him. And it doesn't matter anyways as the Reeps' whining seems to have won out over freedom and democracy. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_el_pr/students_vote_campaign Why do Republicans hate democracy?
[Jon Stewart]...he coninued by saying, "and it is in no way like the Republican sponsored voter registration campaigns run out West where volunteers tore up registration forms filled out by Democrats." [/Jon Stewart]
If they are actually using taxpayer money, that is heinous. Pretty much all of these get out the vote campaigns are designed to get out the Democrat vote. People pretend to be non-partisan, then have slogans like "Vote for Change"...I wonder what that's suppose to mean? And why is it I see people registering voters on 125th Street in Harlem, but never on 86th and Park? I'm not saying get out the vote groups are bad, I'm just saying they are pretty much always partisan, and mostly Democratic, and that they shouldn't get taxpayer money.
The reason why Bush isn't promoted by Choose or Lose is because he hasn't had time to apprear in an interview. This is definately a loss for him. I think that MTV has made a great influence on America's youth. Kerry definately went the right way about this. Even if some can't vote, they'll remember that Kerry is a Democrat and could choose to vote for them the next time around. Here's the link if anyone's interested: http://www.mtv.com/chooseorlose/headlines/news.jhtml?id=1490769
Because Upper East fundies are probably already registered and dropping $1,000 a ticket for black tie DNC fundraisers? I see what you're saying, but NYC is a bad example to make your point. You have the union guys, limousine liberals and Thompkins Sq punks - it's a Democratic city no matter the neighborhood, despite the best efforts of the Post and Mayor Bloomy. You are talking about the same George Bush who just took some time off to get a full-service tongue bathing from Hannity the other day? I don't think it's so much that he's too busy - he just thinks the base is a higher priority than the swingers.