Ciao Pirlo, Benvenuto Allegri! #AllegriOut

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  1. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
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    United States
    Even in 2019 they kept saying he will remain the coach until last minute. They will always show full support up until the minute they post the Grazie (fill in the blank) pic on twitter
     
  2. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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  3. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At this point they need to just bite the bullet and get rid of Allegri and let the next coach try their best to fix this team, it will take them the whole year but we will be in a better shape next season.

    It will only hurt the club and its players more if they stick with Allegri.

    Give Zidane a call and see if he is willing to come to Juve.
    Get rid of Sandro, Bonucci, and Cuadrado this off season. Cut them!
    Sell McKennie, he has been injured and has been absolute garbage.

    Also…. Funny how Bentancour is actually playing well at Tottenham, where was this spirit at Juve lol?

    Kulu is also doing well at Tottenham.

    At this point all I want is Juve is to stop signing past their prime players and develop younger talent around.

    I don’t want us to sign washed up 35 year olds.
    Ronaldo was an exception, many said it was a bad signing, but he kept this club relevant for couple years. He was a consistent scorer for us and helped hide the fact we truly had garbage coaching staff the last 3 plus years.

    Finally, time to kick Agnelli to the curb. Let someone else run the club, Agnelli doesn’t know how to run it.
    Hell maybe let Zidane run the club if he is not willing to coach.

    I want us to stop playing boring football and play some offensive football.
     
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  4. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2005
    Caribbean
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    Hope the board sends them all to the ********ing moon
     
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  5. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    Allegri is paid €9 million a season, there are 3 years left on his contract so technically it's €27 million left on his contract minus what's been paid this season so far which isn't a lot. Then you have to pay his entire staff, they make fore than €2 million combined for the season, and that needs to be paid off until 2025 as well.

    Then you need to hire the new coach and take his salary into account for how ever many years. That's why they are saying it could be €80 million in total, it's taking all the existing contracts and adding the new coach and his staffs contracts.
     
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  6. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
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    Wonder where the change of tune came from, maybe his cousin...
     
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  7. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
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  8. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    Igli Tare is with Lazio.

    Can he quit midseason and go to Juventus?

    I thought there was a rule against switching clubs like the managers.
     
  9. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
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    United States
    He is, but he can always leave.
     
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  10. juventino13

    juventino13 Moderator
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    Nov 25, 2005
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    Yea, but he's not a slave. Juve can always lure him away lol
     
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  11. juventino13

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    Nov 25, 2005
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    It wouldn't be midseason, it would be at the end of the season.
     
  12. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Maybe we can hire someone who...you know...has a calcio background instead of spending years on the Formula 1 circuit.
     
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  13. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    #113 falvo, Sep 21, 2022
    Last edited: Sep 21, 2022
    Yeah, I meant not being able to switch midseason.

    Although it may be different for administrators as opposed to managers.

    Giuseppe Marotta left Juve in October 2018 and signed with Inter in December 2018.
     
  14. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    Everyone is united in believing that Allegri should be out, but he seems to be scapegoated for all of our woes at the moment. For me, the downturn in this side was getting rid of Marotta. If we really want to point to where things started to fall apart, that was the decision.

    I would argue that the biggest issue we've had since he has left has been personnel, and not manager. In Allegri, Pirlo and Sarri, we brought in three very different managers with different footballing philosophies, none of which worked.

    That has more to do with bringing in useless players like Rabiot and Ramsey on a free than signing a guy like Barella. That has more to do with signing Ronaldo to further our brand than getting Haaland when you could have got him at a reasonable sum.

    I think we will all get our wish at some point in the near future and Allegri will be out. However, the new manager is inheriting a mess and a club with no true project in mind.
     
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  15. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Tare would be a good hire.

    So would the guy at Napoli who sells better than we do and instantly picks up good replacements on the cheap.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Only the guy at Napoli never won anything yet.....
     
  17. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    Either has Tare.

    But both do more with less than we have been doing.

    Personally, I would vote to bring Bepe back but don't see that happening unless the entire front office is changed.
     
  18. juventino13

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    Nov 25, 2005
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    The club is supposedly switching strategy on players, they are going to follow the Milan model and find young players at low cost and develop them. That tells me Allegri's time is up at the end of the season regardless of what happens (maybe even before that depending on what happens in the board meeting on Friday).
     
  19. indestructible

    indestructible Member+

    SSC Napoli
    Jan 14, 2007
    Mercato Professor
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    Everyone in Juve management needs to go including Agnelli. But the absolute minimum Juve can do right now to stop the bleeding is to get rid of Allegri asap.

    No will ever say that Gattuso is a better coach than Ancelotti. But with Carlo we were in total free fall. Gattuso came in and was the jolt that Napoli needed for the moment in time and the season was somewhat saved. Right now even a guy like Montero could be that jolt.
     
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  20. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Gumbacicc...you are 100% correct. Changing a manager will not get us a Scudetto or CL victory this year. But, it should hopefully help us not be played off the park by Monza.
     
  21. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Who would have ever thought of this? I swear Agnelli is a fckin moron. No foresight whatsoever. Unless you have an endless supply of oil money, you aren't going to be able to buy superstars in their prime very often.

    The play was and always has been to have a strong youth system, great scouts, and good dirigenti to get young talented players in the 5-10M range.
     
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  22. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Actually, as an administrator, Tare has won.

    Coppa Italia Winners

    2008–09

    2012–13,

    2018–19

    Supercoppa Italiana Winners

    2017

    2019


    For a small club like Lazio, that's quite a lot.
     
  23. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    Fab has gained a lot of credibility lately and has been spot on about a bunch of stories. I'd be willing to give this some credence.
     
  24. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    I know some people love Conte, but he can ******** off for all I care. The way he left Juve, his consistently poor results in European play and his whining when things don't go his way are enough to never want him back at Juve.

    Not to mention he can't stay at a club for more than a season or two. We'd need to start looking for a new coach by the end of his first season.
     
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  25. cizko

    cizko Member

    Juve
    Italy
    Jul 14, 2017
    Preach brother.
     
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