Chivas USA says adios to Thomas Rongen

Discussion in 'Alumni Forum' started by Knave, May 30, 2005.

  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
  2. UnitedNut

    UnitedNut Member

    Apr 29, 2001
    Towson, MD USA
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. MikeLastort2

    MikeLastort2 Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Takoma Park, MD
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    He should've been fired out right.

    He's a great guy, but a terrible coach.
  4. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    He can judge talent, especially young players.
  5. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    No kidding...I think he would do well in Kasper's job, but he doesn't seem to have it as a head coach.
  6. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    Too bad he's still got a job out there, I'd much rather hear him on CSN than Harkes.
  7. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    I hope they bring in Sigi and Chivas becomes a huge success - and ends up on top of the Galaxatives in the standings.
  8. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    Are you kidding? I can think of 11 MLS teams not named DC United where I think Rongen will do a terriffic job and provide positive (from my perspective) results :D
  9. TOTC

    TOTC Member

    Feb 20, 2001
    Laurel, MD, USA
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    Wow. Vergara is fcuking impatient!!
  10. BudWiser

    BudWiser New Member

    Jul 17, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    That's gotta be it for Rongen. He's had his chances to coach in MLS, and he completely blew this opportunity.

    I don't even understand why he's still there as "player scout" or whatever. What's a Dutchman doing running a Latino Spanish-only team? You have to be kidding me :confused:
  11. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    I still maintain that if MLS were smart they'd hire Rongen to set up a scouting network for the league.

    If MLS were smart ... :p
  12. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Who makes the personnel decisions in that organization. I don't think they have the players to compete right now. That's not Rongen's fault. (Unless it is :))
  13. garbaggio

    garbaggio Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Can't fire the owner.
  14. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    Chivas has had a Dutch connection for several years. Odd but true.

    I also wish he'd do TV commentary for us again. He's a part of the DCU community and the young players would be helped by him.
  15. Bootsy Collins

    Bootsy Collins Player of the Year

    Oct 18, 2004
    Capitol Hill
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think this kinda sucks. Granted, Rongen's not a great coach and they probably wouldn't have done well anyway. But still, I'm sorry, any coach in this league would have been completely fscked with the roster they started the season with, let alone the one they ended up with after half the team tore a ligament or broke a bone or whatever.
  16. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With both DCU and with Chivas, Rongen had very difficult situations to deal with. He's probably not as bad as the record with those teams suggests. I don't think he's a great coach, but probably more mediocre, but he seems to be good with youngsters. I wish him the best.
  17. nobletea

    nobletea Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    I'm betting it has to do with a contract issues. He probably got a good contract and they would have to buy him out of it to get rid of him, so given his seeming ability to pick out potential talent they probably figure it's worth keeping him on the payroll in that capacity rather than throw money at him to ship him out.

    My friends and I sat around laughing the day he was hired and all of us agreed he'd be fired before the all-star game. How sweet it is!

  18. owendylan

    owendylan Member

    May 30, 2001
    DC United
    Re: Thomas Rongen News...

    I guess you've never heard of Hans Westerhof.
  19. John L

    John L Member+

    Sep 20, 2003
    Alexandria, VA
    The best team in MLS during the first season was Tampa Bay - Their defense was superb and never ruffled and always well-organized - They PASSED their way out of trouble with series of short passes amongst each other to lessen the pressure so they could eventually PASS the ball up to the midfield - They were playing the correct while DCU was floundering most of the season - Arena finally got the pieces together the last quarter of the season, won a tight series against NY and then outmatched Tampa Bay away - But Tampa Bay was the better team during the bulk of the season thanks to their coach who taught the m the right way to play soccer - Thomas Rongen

    There used to be a defending championship team that one season faced early games with a badly injured center midfielder who insisted on playing and then got red-carded 5 minutes after he stepped onto the field - Their defense was in tatters - At least two starters were out at a time and those who were left were playing hurt as well - And their starting league-leading scorer had been traded in the off-season for guy who could never find the back of the net - They were in a funk the whole season and lasted several more - The team was DC United - The coach was Thomas Rongen

    And now there's a new team with 3rd rate talent chosen mostly on the basis of ethnic origin - Competing against a team MLS clearly wants as the next champion - The team is Chivas USA - The coach was Thomas Rongen

    At the United For DC luncheon I sat with Quaranta and Nana - Quaranta had been under a coach who let the players set the tone for self-discipline and training - He was colorful but in the end disastrous for younger players - The coach was Ray Hudson - Quaranta had also played on youth national teams with a coach who Quaranta had said was a great teaching coach and ideal for younger teams - Learned a lot about skills, tactics and self-discipline - The coach was Thomas Rongen

    While the dictum is true that coaches are hired to be fired, I think Rongen has been a far better coach than his record has indicated at times - His losing seasons were with teams with injuries & petulant veterans or 3rd rate talent - He needs to stick with the National Youth Programs
  20. Theo

    Theo New Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    Philadelphia, PA

    agreed, great post. Rongen is a top-class guy and has a great eye for scouting/coaching younger players. whoever said he should be in charge of an MLS scouting network hit it right on the head.
  21. schmuckatelli

    schmuckatelli New Member

    Nov 10, 2000
    In hindsight, I wish that Thomas had remained with the U-20 team, rather than taking the Chivas job. I think the boys might have done better than the three goals in four matches they scored for Sigi the Hut.
  22. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas

    LOL...! Sigi is starting to make Jabba look like he's been on a diet...

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