NSR: CHICAGO Political Thread ***HIGHLY TOXIC - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK***

1) You’re already dead.
2) Your FREEDOMZ!!!!! just got reviked by the courts.

Your paradise only lasts long enough to kill someone and you lose it via your court system.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Sorry, but you are speaking out of your ass.

Do not fall for the Libertarian "Property Rights Over All" mantra. It is not true. It has never been true. Libertarianism would quickly expand the inequalities in the world and exploit the weaknesses in the world.
As a philosophy of greed and non-caring (in the name of "liberty and freedom"), Libertarianism is what it is.
As a workable political concept, it would leave tens of millions (probably, hundreds of millions) of people in this nation suffering.

I have posted this elsewhere and will do so again:
This is the platform for the 1980 Libertarian Party.
It represents the clearest distillation of the Libertarian philosophy, with David Koch as VP candidate!

I have included links if you wish to "fact check" me.

https://lpedia.org/Document:National_Platform_1980

Some highlights form 1980:

4. Education
We advocate the complete separation of education and State. Government schools lead to the indoctrination of children and interfere with the free choice of individuals. Government ownership, operation, regulation, and subsidy of schools and colleges should be ended.

As an interim measure to encourage the growth of private schools and variety in education, we support tax credits for tuition and for other expenditures related to an individual's education. We support the repeal of all taxes on the income or property of private schools, whether profit or non-profit.

We condemn compulsory education laws, which spawn prison-like schools with many of the problems associated with prisons, and we call for the immediate repeal of such laws.

6. Transportation
Government interference in transportation is characterized by monopolistic restriction, corruption, and gross inefficiency. We therefore call for the dissolution of all government agencies concerned with transportation, including the Department of Transportation, the Interstate Commerce Commission, the Civil Aeronautics Board, the Federal Maritime Commission, Conrail and Amtrak. We demand the return of America's railroad system to private ownership. We call for the privatization of the public roads and national highway system.

As interim measures, we advocate an immediate end to government regulation of private transit organizations and to government favors to the transportation industry.In particular, we support the immediate repeal of all laws restricting transit competition, such as the granting of taxicab and bus monopolies and the prohibition of private jitney services. We urge immediate deregulation of the trucking industry. Likewise, we advocate the immediate repeal of the federally imposed 55 mph speed limit.

8. Health Care
We support the right of individuals to contract freely with practitioners of their choice, whether licensed by the government or not, for all health services.

12. Postal Service
We propose the abolition of the governmental Postal Service. The present system, in addition to being inefficient, encourages governmental surveillance of private correspondence. Pending abolition, we call for an end to the monopoly system and for allowing free competition in all aspects of postal service.


Today
Nothing has changed in the past 40 years, as it relates to Libertarianism.

This is the platform for the candidate (Jacob Hornberger) who came in second for the 2020 Libertarian candidacy (by way of disclosure, the current candidate has virtually nothing on her website about her platform, so I do not include it):


=Get rid of "socialist" Social Security.
=The "Federal Reserve is nothing more than a socialist central-planning agency"
="Abolish the federal income tax and the IRS."
="People have the unfettered right to own and possess guns and other weapons. That is what private property is all about."
="Repeal Medicare and Medicaid, abolish the Department of Health & Human Services, the Food and Drug Administration, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and end all government involvement in health care."
="There is but one solution to the educational morass in which our nation finds itself: freedom and the free market. That necessarily means the repeal of school compulsory-attendance laws and school taxes and the end of federal, state, and local governmental involvement in education. Government has no more business in education than it does in religion."
=Get rid of minimum wage, all environmental regulations
="I believe that life begins at conception and, therefore, that abortion involves the wrongful taking of a human life."..."Therefore, to significantly reduce abortions — and that, not punishment, is ultimately the goal — we should privately encourage, support, and fortify pregnancy-help church groups, counseling centers, and adoption agencies, with the aim of raising people’s consciousness and conscience to a higher level — to the moral aspects of abortion as well as to the severe emotional and psychological consequences of abortion that sometimes can last a lifetime." (So much for "Freedom"!)


On the plus side:
=Non-intervention in foreign policy
="Infringements on civil liberties are the hallmarks of totalitarian regimes." (although I suspect that would include the right to discriminate)
="There is one —and only one — solution to the immigration morass in which our nation is mired: economic liberty and free markets. That necessarily means open immigration — the free movements of people across international borders, in the same way that people freely cross state borders within the United States." (perhaps a bit too radial)
="There is one —and only one — solution to the immigration morass in which our nation is mired: economic liberty and free markets. That necessarily means open immigration — the free movements of people across international borders, in the same way that people freely cross state borders within the United States."

And then there is this:
="Legalize drugs, all of them."

Libertarian Fail in a nutshell.
https://jacobforliberty.com/positions/

Here is a link to my short recap of the current candidate, Jo Jorgenson's alleged "platform" (see post #3650):

https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/libertarian-fail.1724962/page-146#post-38693210

 

How open and notorious of you.

 

I represented clients in two adverse possession cases.
Both were very silly cases.

 

Almost by definition...right up there with the Rule Against Perpetuities [shudders, takes a swig of PTSD meds].

Still, I always like the phrase "open and notorious"...still suspect it could justify a cape and cowl rental for court appearances, as a litigation expense.

 

Ahh, it's always sunny in Somalia.

 

I don't bother teaching the Rule Against Perpetuities to my students. A quick mention and move on.

Same with fee simple defeasables. 15 minutes, a couple of examples and that's that.

Just ugly stuff.

 

My daughter just finished her freshman year at Loyola, and most of her classes were in Maguire Hall, the same building where I attended most of my law school courses back in the earl / mid '90s (weird and wonderful, not even a twinkle in my eye, hooda thunk, et al.).

Back when coffee shops still roamed the earth and COVID-19 didn't, we would meet for lunch across the street My solution to the inevitable PTSD from approaching within 50 feet of Maguire was to create a "call and answer" musical farewell to my offspring...the lyrics of which are, you guessed it, the R against P. That I can still recite it accurately more than 25 years after last reading it makes me shudder.

...and should give pause to anyone considering a legal career. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

 

The Conservative Supreme Court, of all people/instituions, is doing it's best to make 2020 not suck sooo bad. DACA upheld! Chalk up another loss for Trump!

 

Well, it is more the liberal four and Roberts.
Gorsuch had one good vote.
The rest of conservatives can suck it.

 

There are so many professions
That don’t turn you into Jeff Sessions

Gold.

 

For those of you still around, I would appreciate it if you watched this short video. Five minutes but worthwhile:

 

Currently active on the site:

https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Anti-D...y+face+cover&qid=1593913774&sr=8-1&th=1&psc=1




Paging @Salvatore Giuseppe....

 

Trump’s commutation of Roger Stone’s sentence is an unforgivable betrayal of his office

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cac3a4-c309-11ea-b4f6-cb39cd8940fb_story.html

 

FYP and, of course, I agree.

 

What are we at now, 100+ betrayals?

 

It’s as if he’s moderating the country.

 

He is more into "water sports"...allegedly.

 

@LIZZIE, good to "hear" from you.
Hope all is well!