Chamagol & Denilson

Discussion in 'FC Dallas' started by markspence02, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Today Tobias Xavier Lopez (boy, one sounds much more important when their middle name is an everyday part of their title) in the Star-Telegram had an article about FCD meeting with Sebastian "Chamagol" Gonzalez & Denilson to sign one of them as the designated player.

    Chamagol is a Chilean striker who plays with Veracruz. He is 29.

    Denilson is a former "most expensive footballer in the world" when he moved from Sao Paulo to Real Betis and current player for Saudi Arabia's Al-Nasr. I believe Denilson is a winger. He also was a member of Brasil's 2002 World Cup winning team. He is 30.

    Which one would we prefer? Should the DP be a winger or are we in more need of a striker? Who would we move to make cap space/SI slot?

    Personally, I never heard of Chamagol before, but I am not sure a winger is the thing we need right now, even if he is a World Cup vet.
     
  2. nobody478

    nobody478 New Member

    Feb 12, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Thanks for posting the names....if it was me and these were my only choices I'd splash for Denilson over Gonzalez. While our forwards had not exactly lit up the board I think we are more in need of someone to provide consistent service from the wing. Both would bring a nice flair/attitude to the field.
     
  3. UncleHulka

    UncleHulka Member

    Jan 14, 2005
    Wow. Signing either of those guys would be incredible.

    edit: Hmm... I was thinking of a younger Denilson that plays defensive mid.
     
  4. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another thought- any chance in hades we could trade someone(s) (Ruiz & Saragosa) for a second DP? That way we could free cap space, Senior Slot(s) & be able to sign both?
     
  5. Parrothead FC

    Parrothead FC Member

    Jun 29, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    thank you!

    as expected, garbage. off to bed...
     
  6. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Quills

    Quills Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    Richardson
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based solely of the wikipedia articles, I'd have to say Chamagol. Denilson sounds like someone who just wants a big check (in Saudi Arabia or the United States) instead of playing hard for a good club.
     
  8. Dr. Foosball™

    Dr. Foosball™ New Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Hot Springs, AR
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say go for the Brasilian just to bring back all of those Brasil fans that came to the CAP match.

    Maybe he can put the ball into the box for the strikers we already have, they will be great with consistant service.
     
  9. Dr. Foosball™

    Dr. Foosball™ New Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Hot Springs, AR
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. nobody478

    nobody478 New Member

    Feb 12, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Yeah...he'd be nice to have.

    From my perspective a DP has to lead to hardware but also to more people in the stands. A few of these stepovers will help get people of their butts and into the game.
     
  11. 3rd Degree

    3rd Degree Member

    Feb 6, 2000
    Dallas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. Dr. Foosball™

    Dr. Foosball™ New Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Hot Springs, AR
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sent him an email telling him "Nobody gives a shit about soccer! The Rangers need some love from the media too!" :D










    j/k
     
  13. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I am not to crazy about "former most expensive footballer in the world" players. Chamagol was a key fwd in Atlante. From MedioTiempo, some of his stats.

    Don't know much about the Brazilian, but I would vote "yes" on Sebastian.
     
  14. markspence02

    markspence02 New Member

    Aug 10, 2001
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    According to these stats, Chamagol played 1,237 minutes in the Clausura 2007 & has scored 1 goal. I think we already have a forward with similar stats...
     
  15. Dr. Foosball™

    Dr. Foosball™ New Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Hot Springs, AR
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see Sebastian played for Tigres last year. Did he play against FCD?
     
  16. FC Dizzle

    FC Dizzle Member

    Mar 10, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    will Gonzalez bring in the hispanic fans though?
     
  17. mass922

    mass922 New Member

    May 9, 2007
    Dallas/Lubbock
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Denilson?
    Yes please.
     
  18. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    But. Again. That's one short season under certain players (Veracruz). Look at his season with Tigres and Atlante.
     
  19. FC Dizzle

    FC Dizzle Member

    Mar 10, 2006
    Dallas, TX
    it looks like we could play denilson in alvarez's spot. that is DEFINATELY an upgrade
     
  20. ttujosh

    ttujosh Member

    Mar 9, 2003
    Dallas, Tx
    I think the important thing is that they are still looking to add players, and aren't content with being in first. whether or not the players are worth it, we will see, but its good that options are being explored.
     
  21. boomersooner027

    May 13, 2004
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Bahamas
    Denilson will probably have a bigger effect on the field, Chamagol will probably have a bigger effect on ticket sales. Take your pick, I know what HSG's is.
     
  22. wcharriscpa

    wcharriscpa Member

    Arsenal FC
    Dec 26, 2000
    Austin
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Really?

    I was thinking Denilson would make for one hell of a "name" signing.

    And if it really did bring in some Brazilian fans, that could do wonders for the overall gameday experience at PHP (not that Inferno, La Raza, etc don't already do a great job....just that some fervent Brazilian fans might take the stadium to another level.....maybe, maybe not I suppose).
     
  23. chapulincolorado

    Jul 14, 1999
    McAllen, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Depends on who. For example, if you are talking about the Mexican/Chicano market, I am not sure Denilso is that well recognized. Chamagol may be a different story.
     
  24. SeventhRowScreamer

    Jan 26, 2007
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ok... I read the tea leaves and here it is:
    FCD trades Ruiz and Nunez to ? for draft picks and cash.
    FCD signs Denilson.
    Denilson fills the needed winger position that is needed to feed Ricardinho a Brazilian style ball as well as mentor the lad and other CAP loaners to follow!
     

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