Pre-match: Can't believe it took this long for this thread, the 2024 Presidential election thread!

It's too bad we don't have a process where voters belonging to the parties picked a candidate from a pool of people. Then Democrats would have picked someone younger, like Kamala Harris, and Republicans would have picked someone more mainstream, like someone from the Bush family. Then there would be no way we would end up with Trump or Biden.

We could call it a "primary", I think. Ok, I'm not great an naming things.

 

Trump is going to speak at the Libertarian convention. Weird.

https://lnc2024.com/president-donald-trump-at-the-libertarian-national-convention/

 

Weird, or revelatory?

 

Yes, people / voters really think that they participate in direct democracy, direct decision making.
Trump and Biden, they both look weird and they lost the touch with the reality. Which person would like to pick them? Even if you are eager fan of Democratic or Republican Party, why would anyone pick them? It makes no sense. Trump was in Democratic Party since 2001 until 2009. His fans justify this with: "He was a Trojan Horse, he wanted to change the way how elites operate?"

Fans of both parties are just brainwashed. They feel certain commitment, obligation. They feel that they make decisions. They even fight, discuss between each other. These incidents at Columbia University are politically orchestrated. Ignorants will end in prison, 5, 10 years. Thos who organised these riots, will get better job or party positions. Parties need idiots for the street incidents, riots, protests...

Parties pick older candidates, because parties want to redeem to their party soldiers, candidates who work for the party since 70's, 80's...parties just create silly social movements, based on race, religion, human rights...technically speaking, who cares? No one. We can't pick our race anyway.

Stay at home guys, don't vote...

 

Actually it is totally unsurprising....

 

Now that's just being cruel!

 

This is how a TOTL would operate

 

OK now that is funny.

Humor Monitor has spoken!

 

No problem. It just confirmed my "this is highly ignorable content" decision from days gone by.

 

He would not have been out of place in this.

 

This I think is a pretty interesting piece.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20..._page&pm_source=top_news_slot_1&pm_medium=web

Part of what’s interesting is what a colossal dick RFK Jr is.

The other part is that it’s a case about protecting the anonymity of people like us.

 

There are no any differences. The same people arrive and leave.

George Clinton: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clinton_(vice_president)

Prominent figures of Confederate States were Democrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_H._Stephens

These guys could be re-established again, supporters of Trump would apply here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)

Some investigations showed that they are all related with the king who signed Magna Carta. So, voters have a good nose for history.

 

I can't figure out who is more stupid: you for making this argument, or me for clicking "Show Ignored Content."

I'm going with ME. But it is damn close.

 

I saw him on Bill Maher last week and I must say I don't understand why anyone would support him. No charisma at all, and didn't seem particularly intelligent, either.

 

Are you talking about RFK Jr or Bill Maher?

Either will do.

 

Having to listen to RFKJr’s voice for four years would be only 1% less awful than a Trump win.

OK I exaggerate.

2%.

 

You can vote and make the decision. The party decided instead of you, not you or anyone else.

 

Naw, man. He was mocking you because you're claiming civil war era Democrats are the same as modern era Democrats. Next you'll be going on about Strom Thurmond.

Never mind that it is the current Republican party that has people running for office with ties to the Klan

https://apnews.com/article/missouri...ku-klux-klan-e5bed64799f1fe8e7d2040cb52c27d44

and Neo-Nazis

https://ncnewsline.com/briefs/nc-go...zi-connections-allowed-to-stay-on-the-ballot/

 

Historic intervals are being repeated over and over. Francis Scott Key was a slave owner in Maryland. He wrote the US anthem. He shaped the Supreme Court also, he aided Andrew Jackson by being his personal advisor, the wealthy Southern slave owner and the member of Democratic Party. Today it’s all about silence, being neutral, progressive. So, today’s Democrats don’t have anything with those earlier Democrats? Are you absolutely sure? The ancestors of today’s US politicians were not involved in slave trading? Whoever lived in at least 18th century with some land lord impression, he had to have some aid.
We just avoid certain terminology today. Large part of today’s Africa had the name Negroland, the official maps of 17th, 18th century. Today, its Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroon, etc.
Ancestors of today’s Democratic Party never had cotton fields? No one has ancestry in South?
Even here in Big Soccer. Fans of Democratic Party, what was the role of your ancestors in shaping America?

Today’s Republican politicians just aim on those periods, 16th, 17th, 18th, Civil War 1861. Because they know that there are many people who admire those periods. But I doubt that today’s Republican politicians are sincere racists. Everyone has in his street, building someone who belongs to other race. More or less we are all adjusted that races exist.

Both parties aim on racial topics, women rights, LGBTIQ rights, wars abroad, natural resources…
Democrats won but the leader of Me Too movement was unhappy recently. Democrats won the elections thanks to that topic, Black Lives Matter, George Floyd…

Floyd died on 25th May 2020. I don’t see commemoration, remembering him at least on X, Instagram…no one cares actually. But he was useful topic in 2020. We will probably see the fans of Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks, Malcolm X…after the elections, the same atmosphere will continue. The racism, the Hood, fear of Latinos who are climbing over the fence. Democrats are holding this fence on Mexican border. We don’t see Berlin Wall atmosphere. Latinos are suitable for both parties, cheaper labour force, they buy weapons for their conflicts, nobody is stopping the weapon production. Both parties produce and export. The infrastructure in many states is much weaker, lack of investments.
Are US companies returning their production in USA? Not really. It’s still in Asia.
It only matters how we communicate today, what do we avoid in political campaigns.

One question. If you are an White American, how many of close friends do you have of other races? Specifically, African-American, or friends from Mexico, Honduras, Nicaragua, Haiti, Jamaica…Cuba…with evident non-European background?

The same question is directed towards African-Americans, Mexicans, Haitians, etc. whose best friends are Americans with pure European background?

My example. I don’t meet Africans, Mexicans, etc. in my circle of life. I don’t see them in my company, they weren’t in my university. Why? It’s not my fault. I applied for my university, after that I applied in my company. How come I never had anyone from Pakistan, India, Africa, Mexico in my seminar group, or in my generation during the lectures? And I live in a Democratic state, not in Idaho, Iowa…

The ways of life were never connected. Since I am white of 100% European origins, I had different path. Some might say: the better path. For me: an ordinary path. Because I never experienced the other paths.

That’s why I will stay at home. The path of someone from Senegal never crossed or touched my path, the path of someone with Azteca, Inca background also never touched my path. During my lectures: English, Irish, Scottish, German, French, Swedish, Norwegian, Italian, etc. surnames were around me. And all of them were aware of that fact. American, but with strong roots. There you go…our Democracy. They just exchange. Now Republicans might win…in 2028 Democrats again. Exchanged parties, topics, some topics end, another one starts…
Both parties literally serve their Spitzenkandidaten or the Supreme Candidate. In 2028, 2032 some other candidates will flourish…these ones will probably vanish.

Elections for European Parliament are also very soon. Several topics: climate changes, cheaper households, migrations, wars abroad…the same.

 

That thread you didn’t mention is truly a massive shitshow. The complete lack of empathy and compassion there is truly shocking. The glee from some on violence inflicted on protesters is as repulsive as well.