Canada V. Brazil May 31 Pre/PbP/Post Game Discussion

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Bakaman, May 15, 2008.

  1. BearcatSA

    BearcatSA Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Canada
    I'm not going to be able to see my recording of this match until next weekend but I am so pleased with the performance from what I am reading here. Glad to see that Hastings and the much more maligned Serioux had a strong game.
     
  2. Captain Canuck

    Captain Canuck New Member

    May 13, 2002
    I don't know that Hastings had that strong of a game, he definitely got caught out on the 2nd Brazil goal and he wasn't marking tight enough on the first one. With Klukowski playing well and Jazic and De Jong as LB options I wonder if we might try Brennan at CB.

    Brazil should count themselves a bit fortunate. We gifted them with winning goal & we should have scored more, especially in the first half. It's unfortunate that we only dressed one striker in this game, having another one to come off the bench to relieve Friend in a game with unlimited subs might have helped us to get a late equalizer.

    Funny how the times have changed in Canada. In 1994 we got a 1-1 draw and it was considered something of a miracle that we scored in a game where we were badly outplayed at home, we were so thrilled with a goal against Brazil that some fans felt Berdusco's goal was the Canadian soccer equivalent of Paul Henderson's goal. Today, I don't quite feel satisfied with scoring two & having a lot more chances, I wanted a win!
     
  3. El Naranja

    El Naranja Member+

    Sep 5, 2006
    Alief
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    'grats on pushing Brazil so hard. I'm watching the replay ATM (just before half). Very well done.
     
  4. BearcatSA

    BearcatSA Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Canada
    Like I said, I won't be able to see this match for a while so I have to rely on what you and others tell me, for now. What were your thoughts on Serioux's performance?
     
  5. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I thought he did pretty well. The fact that he's a natural midfielder allowed him to add an extra dimension on the back line and he made some impressive moves that other center backs wouldn't be able to pull off.
     
  6. Throwins

    Throwins Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Around the Puget Sound
    It was great to see the Canadians playing the ball out of the back rather than long balling everything as they have in the past. They seemed well organized but took awhile to ajust to the outside backs making runs, Imho Canada has a chance to make it to the WC if this game is any indication. Kudos to to your coach.
     
  7. CanuckFan

    CanuckFan Member

    Dec 13, 1999
    Calgary
    Club:
    FC Energie Cottbus
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Good game by the boys, very encouraging given the little time they've been together. Strengthen our centre backs and we are looking pretty good going into qualifying.
    You Toronto fans kill me. Sutton gave away the victory last week with a very poor goalkeeping performance against DC United and you are saying he would make the difference? Onstad and Sutton are OK. A healthy Lars is better.
    They need to sort out Tam's passport issues ASAP.
     
  8. guppy

    guppy New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Aquarium
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nepal
    Cool video here I thought, though I don't watch a whole lot of videos taken from the crowd, this one is step above most, really. Gives a good feel for everything. Can even watch the highlights on the big screen! It's at the end of the game ...

    I can't seem to figure out how to insert a video...

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iB60d1a7mLI
     
  9. guppy

    guppy New Member

    May 19, 2007
    Aquarium
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Nepal
    He played possessed!
     
  10. Captain Canuck

    Captain Canuck New Member

    May 13, 2002
    He probably gave Mitchell a heart attack taking on attackers as a last man back, but I'd rather see that than constantly hoofing the ball out of the back. With McKenna injured and Serious in mid-season form I expect he will start with either Hastings or Hainault. To be fair to Hastings, he won't be coming up against this calibre of striker too often in qualifying.
     
  11. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I've heard that Carver was not happy about Sutton being on the bench. I love Pat but Sutton deserved this start. I truly expected to see Greg in the second half. :mad:
     
  12. Scorpion26

    Scorpion26 Member

    May 1, 2007
    NY
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Yes agreed Pat is a great keeper but come on at 40 he needs to be done with Canada international games. Bring in Sutton, Hirschfield, Begovic, and many others would like to see them who would be factors for the 2010 WC.
     
  13. italcan

    italcan Member

    Sep 4, 2005
    Toronto
    i was very proud of the way Canada took it to Brazil last night...it was pretty entertaining and Canada could have easily score 4 goals.

    I haven't seen Serioux play before...thought he made really nice moves.

    Whenever I watch Stalteri he doesn't impress me....granted I can't say I've seen him play much, but he seems really slow.

    Really looking forward to those WC qualifiers....Canada will be in SA in 2010!
     
  14. Gordon

    Gordon New Member

    May 6, 2002
    Saskatoon, SK
    Sutton will certainly get all of the Panama game. Frankly, I could care less what Carver thinks on this one. Sutton is competing for a starting job with the Nats and needs to be present for these games and camps.

    And, If I were Jimmy Brennan, I would start wondering if there was a place for in a 23 man roster. I think he made a mistake sticking with TFC this weekend. Nakijima-Farran, Klukowski and DeJong in more limted minutes all played very well. Throw in DeRo and Jazic and I see a lot of left sided players up for very few spots. Equally, Hastings seems like he is in the mix for one of the 4 Centreback spots up for grabs and can be an emergency left back. Jimmy best ask Carver to get some minutes at centreback methinks if he wants to take a serious run at a national team spot.
     
  15. TopDogg

    TopDogg Member

    Jan 31, 2000
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Sutton is having a better year than Onstad. No one even mentioned Lars, as he wasn't playing.

    I was at that DC game and Sutton didn't have a "very poor goalkeeping performance" but rather he had an excellent performance (made 3 or 4 excellent saves and one bad mistake which unfortunately led to a goal).

    By your logic, Julian De Guzman had a very poor performance against Brazil due to his shockingly ill-advised backpass that led to the Brazil winning goal.
     
  16. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    A perfect analogy.
     
  17. Moaca

    Moaca Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    Is the Vs site still down for everybody? I can't access it.
     
  18. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Ya still down. Can't get on U-Sector either.
     
  19. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    He may very well be wondering that.

    I actually miscounted on my previous post forgetting that Robbo was away too. TFC was actually short five starters and Jimmy would have made six. As captain of TFC, he had to make a difficult decision (as who wouldn't want to play against Brazil) but imagine TFC having to play without six of their starting 11! Five was ridiculous enough (and then Tebily gets hurt too)!

    The blame really goes to MLS of course who in their rather isolationist view of the world continue to refuse to adopt the international schedule. It feels like 1939 in a way. That must change.
     
  20. Moaca

    Moaca Member

    Mar 8, 2006
    That's the second friendly he has purposely missed, he is going to skip his way right off the CMNT radar. Maybe that's what happened the last time.

    Funny how when Brazil scored their third and Mitch started the subbing I figured he gave up any hope of winning/tying the game and wanted to have a look at the subs.

    I guess that is pretty pragmatic (and a smart decision) considering that we need to get PT for all the guys and see them in action. But the subs picked right up where the starters left off and were very impressive.
     
  21. Blizzard

    Blizzard Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2002
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I didn't have that feeling. I felt that he was replacing his tired legs with fresh pairs in the hope of coming up with the equalizer.

    It didn't happen but the subs looked good!
     
  22. devioustrevor

    devioustrevor Member

    Jun 17, 2007
    Napanee, Ontario
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We did play without six of our starting 11

    Sutton
    Marshall
    Guevara
    Robinson
    Robert
    Dichio
     
  23. Mosco

    Mosco Member+

    Dec 1, 2004
    Sun Valley, CA
    I enjoyed last nights game seems Concacaf teams are stepping up to the big boys but I think in the middle of second half Brasil controlled more of the game
     
  24. RamR

    RamR New Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    I'm actually strangely contented with the result vs Brasil. Certainly it would have been fantastic to have beaten them and soundly... on a one off friendly. However, given the bigger picture of WCQ and the preparation for WCQ I think a 3-2 loss is just about the perfect result.

    Scoring 2 goals against Brasil (with several other chances) is a huge confidence booster while conceding 3, each due to a bit of sloppy/loose play is a cautionary reminder. The team should be going into the next friendly vs Panama with a lot to work on and then onto WCQ with the best balance of quiet confidence and caution without any threat of being over-confident and lackadaisical.

    For me this game against Brasil and its result was the best thing that could have happened at this point in time.
     
  25. Captain Canuck

    Captain Canuck New Member

    May 13, 2002
    Thought I read in one of the post-match write-ups that Carver said before the game that he wouldn't have a problem if Sutton didn't play against Brazil.

    And given that TFC could have beaten that LA team with me in goal, never mind Edwards (given the number of difficult shots he was faced), I'd have to agree with him.
     

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