California Recall Election - 2021

Discussion in 'Elections' started by Knave, Apr 28, 2021.

  1. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    The next CA gov. election is November 2022. There wouldn’t be enough time for the recall process. They started on Newsom’s recall last summer I think.
     
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  2. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Elder will issue a bunch of executive orders for maximum Trump points. Some dem will get elected in 2022 and they’ll reverse it all. Gonna be a shit show for sure.
     
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  3. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
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    United States
    If you assume that Democrats will normally get two-thirds of the votes and Republicans will get one-third, one-fourth of Democrats and all Republicans make half. Alternatively, I'll make an example with 8 Democrats and 4 Republicans. If one-fourth of Democrats who normally vote don't vote this time, the voters would be 6 Democrats and 4 Republicans. Then one-sixth of Democrats and all Republicans make half.

    How many of the losers will run for Senate next year? California has primaries with all candidates together, so the Senate primary could have a lot of candidates like

    There's a big difference between recalling presidents and governors.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/california-recall-polls/ has Keep at 53.0 percent and Recall at 42.6 percent. The lead for Keep got as low as 1.2 percent. Considering Republican outperformed their polls last year, we should want Keep to have a double-digit lead. Elder is up to 24.2 percent with Paffrath second at 10.1 percent, so there is no doubt that Elder will win the second question. I wonder how long it will take to count mail ballots and if anything will be challenged in court. I'm assuming Democrats control state courts, but if something gets to the Supreme Court, you never know.



    The comments are by people who want Newsom recalled. Some are by Democrats, including "All my family members are Democrats and we are voting for Larry Elder." There are accusations that if people mail your ballot facing a way that Recall is visible without opening the envelope, their ballots will be dumped to save Newsom. I don't know what the source of that is. I hope that the comments are an example of comments not being a random sample because unhappy people are more likely to comment.
     
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  4. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Sounds like Russian bots to me.
     
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  5. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    This actually is true, at least for certain counties, as ballot and envelope design may vary from county to county. Even where it is true, it depends on how you fold your ballot and how you orient it when putting it in the envelope.

    My ballot and envelope did show the vote if you folded it just right and inserted it the right way into the envelope. I turned my ballot around so my vote against the recall wasn't visible.
     
  6. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    If he gets recalled, let's all send him a $1 so he can have a consolation dinner at The French Laundry
     
  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Today, I received notice that Nevada County received and counted my ballot. :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Karl K

    Karl K Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    Suburban Chicago
    Mail in aggregate vote numbers so far, county by county breakdown.

    6 million ballots returned, close to 30% of the total mailed

    https://www.sfgate.com/gavin-newsom...wsom-16446043.php?IPID=SFGate-HP-CP-Spotlight

    Many of the very white ex Hippies in Marin County have already dropped their ballots into the mailbox. Latinos elsewhere so far are sitting this one out.

    Results will depend on election day turnout.

    Some of the betting markets had Newsom at -300, down from -1000, but Ladbrokes has him at -800 now.
     
  9. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
    Polls have gotten a lot better for Newsom and returned ballots are heavily heavily Dem. This guy is usually right
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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  11. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    She is such a damaged person. I hope she can find peace someday.
     
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  12. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, do we have an idea of what time tomorrow we'll know how this went? I'm guessing Midnight-ish, eastern?
     
  13. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I don't know if they will call it by then, but I think you'll be able to make a very reasonable prognostication by 9:00 PM Pacific.
     
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  14. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    So let's discuss the things we can do to prevent Republicans from trying this power grab all the time forever - maybe they will start trying to win votes through popular policies instead of whatever they're currently doing. Some suggestions I've heard:

    * Raise the required number of signatures - the threshold for a recall should be much higher than getting a proposition on the ballot.
    * Allow the governor to be on the ballot. (This one probably won't work because just by name recognition the governor will have a big advantage.)
    * If the recall is successful, have a runoff between the top two recipients of votes in the second question. This prevents someone from becoming Governor with a small plurality of votes.
    * We should pass a law or amend the state constitution so that if a replacement Senator is picked, the replacement has to be from the same party that won the Senate seat the last time it was up for a regular election. This would stop Republicans from grabbing a Senate seat unless they can win it in a general election. This may involve taking the power away from the governor to appoint the replacement Senator - something like letting the party's members in the state legislature pick the replacement if the governor is from a different party.
     
  15. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Elder will definitely win if Newsom is recalled, but I'll be curious who finishes second. For whatever reason, I didn't go for electability and voted for a socialist Bay Area teacher if the recall happens. It just seems like a crapshoot with so many on the ballot.
     
  16. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I didn't bother voting on the second question. Voted no on the recall, voted on a local measure, and that's it.
     
  17. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, by around that time, we'll know if California (and possibly the country) is... toast?
     
  18. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Yes
     
  19. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

    Jul 31, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY/Brno,CZ
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    Czechia




    Looks like an uneventful and early evening.
     
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  20. Matrim55

    Matrim55 Member+

    Aug 14, 2000
    Berkeley
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    Connecticut
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    United States
    lol
     
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  21. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
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    DC United
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    United States
    So this absurd recall has been emphatically rejected. Hallelujah. One guy says drink bleach and shove a flashlight up your ass to fend off covid, and that guy's janissaries celebrate his brilliance. Another guy (foolishly) has a dinner out on the town during covid and those same nutcases call for a recall election. This country is screwed.
     
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  22. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. chad

    chad Member+

    Jun 24, 1999
    Manhattan Beach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My first vote in CA is a winner!
     
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  24. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So far, more than 40,000 people have dug the can you dig it guy.
     
  25. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait a second ... Booker T was one of the recall candidates?!?!
     
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