It's times like these that I wish I didn't become a mod. There is a ton of profanity and sarcasm rolling around in my head itching to be unleashed. Oh well..
There was no good realistic case for war in Iraq when considering the planned endgame of a unified democratic country. At this point, I see no downside to getting out and letting the chips fall. I don't accept the argument that we need to stay so that the world will see that it wasn't a failure - Condi Rice, circa yesterday. I mean, WTF is that?
So it looks like (surprise surprise) he spent less time defending the war and more time attacking the critics.
Maybe we are confusing our definitions of liberal. I wasn't referring to the generally rationalistic Enlightenment beliefs upon which this country was founded.
My take is that Dubya's speech today was a sad act of desperation. Really pathetic. McCain at least seems to live in the real world. Dubya's little fantasy bubble routine got old a long time ago.
My theory is that W actually died and has been replaced by a tape recorder. The only words that they could get out of him on his death bed were "We will stay the course. We will not cut and run." So they've been working around that ever since.
So, um, which country did we invade under Wilson to spread democracy? What you've stated, by the way, is a complete over simplification. And its not even true. Liberals have generally been in favor of putting pressure on other countries to liberalize; they have not been in favor of invasions. Aside from invasions to prevent the spread of communism, who did we invade to liberalize them? Grenada?
Don't know the Germany case, but in Japan's case, US didn't fight a war against Japan because Japan is fascist. In the contrast, when Japan army invaded many countries, their oils supply was coming from US. US policy in Far East is Open Door Policy that means every imperlist countries shared the benifits on those poor exploited countries. But Japan fascist decided that 1) they should enjoy all the benefits of themself, so "Asia is for Asian's Asia (similar like US' Americas are for Americans); 2) they don't like US controlling the oil supply. That caused Pearl Harbor attack.
We were dragged into the western war--and it's not like WWII Germany was a country tht was existing peacefully, however uncomfortably or tensely, with its neighbors. And Japan attacked us first. I fail to see how either of those is an example of "liberalism invading other countries to spread democracy." Try again.
Still waiting for an explanation of exactly how Rummy, Cheney, Jeb, and Wolfowitz are all former liberals. Oh, and Dan Quayle too. Maybe he was, hell.
I'm thinking of a uniquely American idea called Manifest Destiny but that precedes Wilson so one can't say that "Wilson started it". Now I think of the emancipation proclimation but again, not Wilson. And since Lincoln was a Republican, he must have been a conservative. So we will blame conservative Republicans for the idea of fighting for other people's liberation.
Did you catch McCain on the Daily show the other night? The interview where once again he supported the Administration's position 100%? The interview where he's said he's seen no evidence that the Administration applied pressure to analysts although he supposes that it could have happened? The interview where he said that while he has serious concerns with the post war planning, he has no qualms with the reasons we went in their in the first place? I saw it.