That first sentence is a very passive sentence, like the intel started out good but then went bad all by itself. It is Clintonesque, and traditional politician-speak -- which wouldn't be all that interesting if it wasn't for the fact that it's not typical Bushspeak.
Statements by the President aren't open to interpretation. I fully expect rep from all of you when the White House issues their "clarification."
I'd be happy with something along the lines of: "I'm a complete tool who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground and somebody ought to kick me in the head."
Saying it's not an issue anymore because it already happened is kinda Orwellian, isn't it? We live in a world where consequences have actions -- attempted murder is still a crime, for example; the fact that everything turned out well (which it hasn't yet in this case) doesn't mean that there is no blame to be spread and consequences to be had. Maybe firing those responsible would help show the world that we're not just random warmongers, because right now we look like we are.
That admission will be followed by the Democrats leadership: "We are a bunch of pvssies with no conviction, no ideals, and no clue. We only give a shite about getting re-elected." Then the earth will explode and it will all be over. PS. Go Democracy!
I think you are kinda going on a tangent here. How does it help things for Bush to lie and say that he thinks that the war was wrong. He believes it was the right thing to do and that we have the potenetioal to create more good than bad out of the situation. In November, the majority of the nation agreed. Everyone now has admitted intel failings and the President has vowed to and has been in the process of reforming our nations intel agencies. The debate about how we got there has been addressed, voted on and changes are in process.
No, I'm sorry. I'm not willing to let Bush wash his hands of this by blaming it on bad intelligence and promising to fix that. There was much more to the decision to invade Iraq than Bush will ever admit to. The decision to invade was a policy decision more than anything else. The intel, which he was highly selective about, was dubious at best. When he takes responsibility for the policy behind the invasion, I'll be impressed.
Why would he appologize for a policy that a majority of the nation supported in November and that he still believes in?
I don't think the "majority" (2%?) of Americans specifically voted in favor of using the WOT as cover for neocon ambitions in the middle east.
I'm not sure that much of the intelligence was wrong. BushCo just relied upon the wrong intelligence - the intel that supported their plans to invade Iraq - and ignored anything contrary to that goal.
It would be worth dropping the subject if this was the last time we in the United States were ever going to have to take a decision about going to war. Given the way this century's shaping up, I suspect it won't be.
So what Chimpy said, unless I'm mistaken, is that We got stuff wrong, intelligence was faulty, conclusions not just unwarranted but downright wrong, but I'd still have done it.? Yeah, that's really taking responsibllity.
President Bush, from the BBC's piece on the subject: <whispers>: pssst - Mr President...you're are a politician in Washington, too.
You'll be waiting a long time for that. You see, I picked it up on ebay for the going rate for a GWB awarded medal of freedom. I had limited funds, so I had to choose between Tenet's Medal of Freedom and a John Wolyniec game worn toe splint.
Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible." Katrina events may have changed him a bit, but I'll bet it was the "poll" results that made him change his schtick. He has zero credibility and his party is jettisoning him. He (Rove) had to do something. If they had been like this from the beginning maybe I wouldn't hate them so much. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a great dual post. I completely agree with both.
I am making no such assertion, explicit or otherwise. I simply strive for balance in the BS politics-board force. If you were all a bunch of hard-core righties, I'd be smearing the Republicans. The Dems and Reps are really the same party anyways, so I don't care either way.