Bush: 'I am responsible'

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  1. Scarecrow

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    http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/12/14/bush.iraq/index.html

    Well Bush has taken a "buck stops here" approach it seems.
    Seems like the GOP want to stop the flooding so to speak. Still it is the right thing for him to do.
     
  2. Dammit!

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    Apr 14, 2004
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    Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    Whoah. from www.ap.org


    WASHINGTON - President Bush accepted responsibility on Wednesday for the decision to go to war with Iraq despite faulty intelligence but said the decision to oust Saddam Hussein was still correct.

    "It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," the president told The Woodrow Wilson Center on the eve of elections to establish Iraq's first permanent, democratically elected government. "And I'm also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."

    Must be those poll-professors at work? It feels very Clintonesque.

    BTW, Go DEMOCRACY!
     
  3. Pathogen

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    Fvck him.
     
  4. Chicago1871

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

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    Color me surprised.
     
  5. dj43

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    flip/flop ;)
     
  6. Matt in the Hat

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    I'm sticking by my analysis that Katrina changed George W. Bush for the better. This is further proof.
     
  7. GringoTex

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    You guys need to read more carefully. Bush has neither taken responsibilty for the bad intelligence or, more importantly, his whole-hearted embracement of it.
     
  8. dj43

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    I think you are correct here. Or perhaps, there was some introspective thought going on and Katrina became the focus for needed change. In any case, things look better. Perhaps this is responsible in part for the recent 5 point jump in the AP poll.
     
  9. Scarecrow

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    Well there is this quote:
     
  10. Matt in the Hat

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    "It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," Bush said. "And I'm also responsible for fixing what went wrong by reforming our intelligence capabilities. And we're doing just that."

    Jesus, what more do you want?

    Edit: Damn you Scarecrow
     
  11. Scarecrow

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    Gotta be fast. :)
     
  12. Claymore

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    There's nothing new here; Bush is still throwing all the blame at the "intelligence community".
     
  13. dj43

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    Believing bad intelligence, and being responsible for that intelligence are separate matters. Otherwise we could similarly say Clinton was wrong for his 1998 attacks for the reason he believed the same intel from the same guy.
     
  14. GringoTex

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    He claims responsibility for invading Iraq. What a revelation! He then claims responsibility of reforming intel (which he's been harping on for three years now). The admittance that much intel was wrong is over a year old.

    Where's the headline?
     
  15. Matt in the Hat

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    And who should be blamed for gathering crap intel?
     
  16. Chris M.

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    Re: Bush admits "Much Iraq Intel Wrong. I am Responsible."

    Now, if he will accept responsibility for -- or even acknowledge -- the mistakes AFTER the invasion, and he follows through and fires Rummy in the next week or so, then I will consider him something of a changed man.

    Not that I am turning sheep or anything. :D
     
  17. GringoTex

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    This is actually a false statement by the reporter. Bush did no such thing and I guarantee the White House will deny he invaded Iraq based on faulty intelligence within 12 hours.
     
  18. DJPoopypants

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    I am with gringo. If he said "I am ultimately responsible for the mistakes made in how we went to war", then it would be completely different.
     
  19. obie

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    This is the start of acting like a real leader. Now if we could only find out who exactly is responsible for that bad intel and fire (or, if it was intentionally bad, arrest) them. Let's see, where do we start?

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    Nah, too easy -- plus, the guy's an eel when it comes to slipping out of trouble. Just stop paying him for lying to us.

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    Getting closer...
     
  20. GringoTex

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    Who should be blamed for consolidating a bunch of disputed intel and presenting it to the American public and UN as a case for war?
     
  21. obie

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    Getting better, but still not there, I don't think. The question is, who at the end of the day really got us into this mess?

    [​IMG]

    There you go.
     
  22. Scarecrow

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    I guess it all comes down to how you interpret this sentence.

    "It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq," Bush said.
     
  23. Claymore

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    That's hardly the point. It wasn't just "bad intel" that led to the invasion, it was bad policy. The man cherry-picked the intel to support the invasion, and completely disregarded any intel to the contrary.
     
  24. CrewDust

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    Bingo, Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, and it's Cheney who need to be sacrifced at the alter of responsiblity.
     
  25. Matt in the Hat

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    That's monday morning QB'ing
     

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