Bradley: Staying American

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by purojogo, Aug 23, 2006.

  1. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An opinion piece on upcoming coach for the USMNT....
    ..."The reality is, the coach of the U.S. national team needs to be American. And if not American-born, then at the very least American bred.

    Interesting....IMO it begs the question, how "American bred" is Klinnsman (sp?) for example?
  2. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Stupid piece.

    I pointed out in the "coaching candidates" thread (not that there's novelty in this) that the 2008 WCQ roster will be largely and perhaps entirely Euro based.

    Jeff's just shilling for his bro.

    I wish he was shilling for his nephew instead.
  3. soccertom

    soccertom New Member

    Jun 2, 1999
    Ugh! Awful piece.
  4. tubby_butter

    tubby_butter Member

    Mar 22, 2002
    Really? To me, the team pretty much picks itself. And if you're thinking Twellman vs. Ching or Clark vs. Olsen, these are selections that would ultimately have zero impact.

    The way you use the given personnel is 90% of the job.

    The only "advantage" a domestic coach has is knowing the history of player selection, which puts him into 2 camps: agree with Bruce and pick all the same guys or disagree with Bruce and intentionally go with different guys.

    I personally think a fresh eye is exactly what is needed. Otherwise I'd just rather have Arena back.
  5. FC Uptown

    FC Uptown New Member

    Feb 3, 2006
    Arena's gone...The King is Dead...

    Now, let's go get the best.
  6. FnordUnitedFC

    FnordUnitedFC Member

    Jun 22, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Worst. Piece. Ever.

    Shockingly incompetent journalism. I could give a damn if the new manager is from Jupiter as long as he is the best for the job. Since when did we become xenophobic? Even the NBA, which is our game, had something like 50% of the 1st round draft this year as foreigners.

    Who gives a damn where the new man comes from; let's just hope he has a pair when it comes to crunchtime unlike some of our previous managers.
  7. PALE568

    PALE568 Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    mind your own.
    The thrust of the article, whether Bradlley consciously knows it or not is: we have to give this to an American because a foreign coach would think the job was beneath him.
  8. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Gosh, there's no conflict of interest there, what with one of the leading American-born candidates in MLS happening to be Jeff's brother, Bob.

    I'm sure he's not subjective in this in the least.
  9. lurking

    lurking Member+

    Feb 9, 2002
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bradley: Please hire my brother!
  10. TheSlipperyOne

    TheSlipperyOne Member+

    Feb 29, 2000
    Arsenal FC
    I think they misspelled his name in the by-line.

    It should be: Trecker
  11. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, what a load.

    I guess we need to hire foreign soccer writers too......;)
  12. Simply notken

    Simply notken New Member

    Feb 11, 2005
    I agree with your point. Though the NBA's infatuation with foreigners seems to have died down a bit. Only 6 of 30 first round picks were foreign born this year.
  13. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So why is this on a USMNTPA site?

    Is this the US players pimping for a coach who "understands" them?

    Now THAT'S a load of garbage.

    Anyway ,choice 1 lives in Cali and choice 2 coaches in DC.They're Yanks now,so too bad,Bob-I mean Jeff.

    And why is everyone shitting on HDC now?What happened to the state-of-the-art designation that it had when it opened?
  14. Fulham Fan

    Fulham Fan New Member

    Apr 26, 2004
    Bay Area
    Then he's wrong. Beenhakker coaches Trinidad and turns Cornell Glen into this force that frightens Sweden and England. So many coaches take jobs that really do seem out of the way.

    This article is representative of all the cottage-industry thinking in American soccer.
  15. Soccernethost

    Soccernethost New Member

    Apr 16, 1999
    Given this board's history of unknown players in Europe that should be selected for the Nats team, I'm not surprised to find the idea of an American coach is repulsive.

    So, a modest proposal in keeping with that spirit...

    Let's find an unproven coach whose team is in a minor European nation, preferrably in the Third Division or lower.

    No, wait! Better yet -- let's find the coach of a big European club's RESERVE team.
  16. PALE568

    PALE568 Member

    Jun 5, 2003
    mind your own.
    No doubt.
  17. Bigdudeduke

    Bigdudeduke New Member

    Apr 26, 2000
    Chicago Suburbs
    You are spot on which leaves me disappointed in this effort from Jeff. Such an obviously slanted piece is beneath his typically high level of journalism.
  18. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Thanks for your thoughts, Jeff, but no one liked them the first time.

  19. Why on earth do you think that. Please can you all stop this misplaced inferiority behaviour:mad: . And for your information, Louis van Gaal, the top Dutch coach said the other day that he wants to coach a team on the 2010 WC and he didnot add "except if it is the USMNT". Another Dutch top coach that would happily take the job is Co Adriaanse. And what about "Don"Leo Beenhakker? If he doesnot think it below standards to coach Trinidad and Tobagoe ( and surprisingly take them to the WC 2006!!) than why would you think he would feel that way about the USA???
    So stop lamenting, all of you:)
  20. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, while I have no problem with another US coach, I just want the best available coach for the job. How difficult is that?

    The article was poorly written. Does he think training conditions in the African nations are any better? How about all of the foreign coaches taking those jobs? Australia? Korea? Did Hiddink have massive support for those nations? Ok, maybe Korea...

    Yeah, the coach needs to understand US players like Brad Freidal. I'm not sure Brad is even American any more! :rolleyes:
  21. Via_Chicago

    Via_Chicago Member

    Apr 1, 2004
    Bay Area, California
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I posted this on Climbing the Ladder:

    Jeff Bradley's New Editor

    It has been the loudest and most consistent cry of Jeff Bradley in the wake of the U.S. national team's three-and-out performance in the World Cup:

    "The U.S. now needs to hire my brother, Bob Bradley."

    What a load of garbage.

    The reality is, the coach of the U.S. national team needs to be the person best suited for the job. And if not the best person, then at the very least the second best.

    Why the best person suited for the job? There are so many reasons.

    In case you haven't been paying attention, coaching the U.S. national team is a pretty unique challenge. Did you hear Bruce Arena whining recently (and not so recently) about the position? Lack of facilities. Lack of a top-flight professional league. Lack of meaningful MLS games. His bitch list goes on beyond that, too.

    Most are the complaints of a frustrated and bitterly disappointed egomaniac.

    Truth be told, Arena coached the U.S. national team during the best of times in American soccer history. A pro league is better than no league at all. A subpar national training center is better than no national training center. A small but growing fanbase is better than no fanbase. Arena deserves some credit for actually finding something to complain about during the "best times in American soccer history." But, more than just patting himself on the back, Arena felt he needed to stab his "friend" Sunil Gulati in the back too.

    And there would be no better way for Gulati to get back then by naming a new American coach.

    Seems the most vocal among those who are clamoring for Bob Bradley do not believe there are any other viable candidates for the position. Again, a load of garbage.

    In replacing Arena, U.S. Soccer is replacing the greatest coach in the nation's recent soccer history. Now, take a look at Arena's background and how he came into the position.

    Arena was named the coach in '98 because he'd won at the University of Virginia and he'd won at D.C. United. Now, ask yourself this, did Arena win at UVA because he was a great coach or because he and his staff were able to recruit the best players in the country? Did he win at D.C. United because he was a great coach or because the league was quite a bit different back then? Think about the core of the great D.C. United teams. Marco Etcheverry. Jaime Moreno. John Harkes. Jeff Agoos. Those were all players gifted to D.C. and Bruce Arena by MLS HQ. Arena coached D.C. for three years and never had to disassemble his core and retool because of the salary cap. That was left to the coaches who followed him, including the Polish born Piotr Nowak, who looks to match Arena's success of two MLS Cup titles in three years. Point is, Arena's success in American soccer may have been the reasons he was named to the post. But, when you look back, his success was not earth-shattering.

    As Arena might say himself. "But there's not a team in this league as talented as the D.C. United teams I had."

    When you examine it closely, Arena did a poor job coaching the U.S. because, while it was his dream job, he stopped believing in the American player. He was patriotic about the whole thing, except when it came to showing respect for other nations. He was willing to deal with a difficult system, but when the going got tough, he blamed everyone but himself. He was willing to do whatever it was going to take, unless that involved changing his system. In short, he was the quintessential American.

    Mostly because he was American.

    Now, it's time to find the best coach out there. A guy who will: look at the job as a dream job and not a stepping stone to something bigger and better. Not a guy who will throw up his hands when he's watching a mid-July afternoon game in Houston or Dallas and wonder what the heck it is he's watching.

    Who's the right guy? Let U.S. Soccer sit down and grill the candidates and decide. Let U.S. Soccer ask the candidates about the player pool, after giving them a fair chance to study the player pool. Let U.S. Soccer ask the candidates about who they see as the best up-and-coming young players, after giving them a fair chance to look at those players.

    And then decide who is most worthy.

    Don't just bring in a bunch of American guys who've won in MLS or college and fallen in love with their resumes. If they don't know what's going on in international soccer, then what good are they going to do for the U.S. national team?

    When you get right down to it, the national team job is probably 90 percent about player selection anyway. And, a guy who's going to have to take a few weeks to get just a basic handle on the American personnel does stand a good chance of making the right selections. Doesn't he?
    American soccer has changed a lot since the day Arena took over the national team. That cannot be argued. But the coach of the U.S. national team still has to have a feel for all there is that makes American soccer what it is, and how it can become a part of "The World's Game." Bring in a guy from a country where there's soccer and only soccer and he's going to have a lot to say that could improve the American game. Think a qualified coach is going to want to take the time to watch college soccer? The USL? Think he's going to have a really good feel for the American system of player development -- or the lack thereof? The answer is, in a word, yes.

    The U.S. is entering a critical stage in its soccer development. The national team has risen for the past eight years because of its growing popularity and a core of very talented young players.

    Now, U.S. Soccer needs to recognize that they have to find the best candidate for the job.
  22. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    by the way, I had forgotten that this was the US player's association site, and thus not a site with any real unbreakable journalisitic standards (such as noting that your brother is one of the domestic candidates). I do think this is stumping for a domestic coach by the players. Thus I think it's reasonable to conclude that the players, or at least certain powerful players who are happy with the cozy status quo. All the more reason to hire a foreign or foreign-ish coach, in my view. Althoguh hopefully that doesn't lead to labor strife.
  23. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001

    Holy Strawman, Batman!


    If I only had a brain, indeed.
  24. QuakeAttack

    QuakeAttack Member+

    Apr 10, 2002
    California - Bay Area
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. I couldn't have described my opinion better. Just find the best person for the job. American or not.
  25. Via_Chicago

    Via_Chicago Member

    Apr 1, 2004
    Bay Area, California
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The irony of course, is that I left a lot of Jeff's own words in there. In fact, that paragaraph where he describes Arena's pre-USMNT career is almost word-for-word. Whereas he used the paragraph to say: "look, club performance shouldn't decide who should be our coach," I used it to suggest that Arena's record was no better than Nowak's (who is, as we both know, Polish).

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