Born in the U-S-Eh: David Hoilett at Blackburn Rovers

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  1. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Certainly an interesting thread title considering that the very wikipedia link you give says he was born in Brampton (Do you feel like we do?), Canada, wherever that is.

    From the little I've been able to glean in the various discussions taking place around BS, no one's entirely sure just how this guy is American. Reminds me a bit of the Bradley Johnson episode...
     
  4. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    There's a thread on him in US Mens.

    The connection seems tad tenuous - a potential grandparent.
     
  5. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, that's what I was thinking of.

    Agreed. Seems at first glance like a case of folks across the pond assuming US citizenship works differently than it actually does.
     
  6. wcssstar33

    wcssstar33 Member

    Aug 28, 2008
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wasn't Almunia going to play for England but you need English blood to do so?
     
  7. arsenalfc08

    arsenalfc08 Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    He's met the residency requirements to be a British citizen. He's lived in the UK for 5 years.
     
  8. jukeboxromeo

    jukeboxromeo Member

    Nov 21, 2010
    Club:
    Bolton Wanderers FC
    He's ineligible to play for England because of schooling requirements, I believe.
     
  9. sakibomb523

    sakibomb523 Member+

    Oct 13, 2009
    Orange County
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah the three FA's in the UK agreed they wouldn't cap nationalized guys through the residency thing.
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yup.

    His problem is he's vastly mediocre........but I don't need to tell an Arsenal fan that :)

    I have a feeling we're going to find out Hoilett isn't actually eligible for the US. The Bradley Johnson reference made by Friedel'sAccent seems appropriate.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    three?

    Poor Northern Ireland. The red-headed step-child of the UK?

    I don't remember any such agreement.
     
  12. jwat15

    jwat15 Member

    Oct 7, 2010
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    From what I understand his mom is American. So eligible, perhaps. Likely it would work? No. You still have to worry about citizenship issues here as well.
     
  13. b-El

    b-El Member

    May 6, 2010
    London
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That only applies to British players to stop the home nations from nicking each other's players. Giggs is an example. He could never have played for England then but now, under the schooling requirements, he would have been eligible.

    Almunia can play for England but no one, media, fans and FA included, is comfortable going that route.

    Sorry for the threadjack.
     
  14. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    If his mom is American he is exactly like Diskerud and Bunbury.....

    An American citizen from birth.
     
  15. Danweino

    Danweino New Member

    Jul 8, 2007
    depends if they applied for it. I have an American parent but no citizenship.
     
  16. jwat15

    jwat15 Member

    Oct 7, 2010
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Or like Andy Najar, right?..... So the answer is (see Danweino)

    Thats more of the feel i was going for. He is technically american but wether he is qualifed (or atleast yet) is the real question
     
  17. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not technically true, I don't think. As I understand it, you have American citizenship (by birth), but you have a few hoops to jump through before you can prove it.
     
  18. Grumpy in LA

    Grumpy in LA Bringing It Since 1807™

    Sep 10, 2007
    Chicago
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't think so. Najar was born in Honduras and both of his parents are Honduran. So he's not a citizen yet because he'd have to naturalize, and he needs to be in the country a couple more years in order to do so.
     
  19. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So... it seems the consensus is that this guy is a yank.
     
  20. Zak1FCK

    Zak1FCK Member+

    Aug 23, 2005
    Milwaukee
    Club:
    FC Kaiserslautern
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong, you are an American citizen. All you have to do is fill out the same paperwork anyone has to fill out to get a passport, i.e. prove citizenship. Even if you never get a passport you are still an American citizen.
     
  21. USvsIRELAND

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    ATL
    Exactly.

    BTW if this kid is eligible for us we better freakin be pursuing him.

    He's pretty talented.
     
  22. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=8554a3ac86aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD


    Based upon current law, I don't see how he qualifies unless he already filed for and was granted citizenship.
     
  23. ATLGunner

    ATLGunner Member

    May 8, 2005
    Atlanta
    Well then how was Jones eligible?
     
  24. Rainer24

    Rainer24 Member

    Jan 6, 2008
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    VfB Stuttgart
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta

    My guess is that the birth of Jones was registered at the consulate in Germany prior to him turning 18.

    http://travel.state.gov/law/family_issues/birth/birth_593.html

    If Hoilett's birth was registered prior to him turning 18 then he would also be a US citizen.
     

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