Bocanegra, Dempsey, Keller: Fulham v Tottenham | 09-01-07 | 10 a.m. EDT

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  1. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    3-3 final. Weird game; men against boys for much of the time and Spurs really should have buried Fulham. As for the Yanks, Dempsey looks quality - certainly Fulham's best player today. Bocanegra - oh dear. Probably the best thing to say about him is that the rest of the defence was as bad as him.
     
  2. dcpohl

    dcpohl Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is one for the archives. Great game! So was that one or two assists for Demps?
     
  3. Beazley17

    Beazley17 Member

    Dec 30, 2006
    South Florida
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What a comeback, and Dempsey is definatley the MOM! He probably just sealed a starting posistion for a while with his last 2 performances
     
  4. Geneva

    Geneva LA for Life

    Feb 5, 2003
    Southern Cal
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Congratulations to Clint and Fulham - can't believe they pulled a point out of that. Spurs were totally dominating, but they believed. Very scrappy and could be a good sign for their season. The last goal was pure entertainment.
     
  5. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Baird backed up when he should have stepped up, and Bale was suddenly onside.

    Baird looks like he can defend okay enough, he just doesn't seem to be much of a soccer player otherwise. I guess that works for NI playing 10 behind the ball against the big teams, but Fulham needs a little more offensive support than he's been providing.
     
  6. El Steve

    El Steve Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    Pittsburgh
    Club:
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    dempsey was simply amazing... this deserves a big soccer implosion because much like in the first half, he was the best player on the field and his effort was unquestioned

    the first assist to smertin's luck goal was him sliding to make a sweet pass... the flick on for the 3rd goal was clutch and if you didn't notice in the last minute, that was deuce tracking back and stealing the ball off of spurs

    it was a great performance by dempsey and if he is not on the field, they do not gain a point

    if he gets anything worse than a 9 from sky sports they should be disowned

    if boca gets better than a 5, the same principle applies
     
  7. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    Deuce was fantastic. Skill and fought like an animal.
     
  8. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two assists and a goal.
     
  9. arsenalfc08

    arsenalfc08 Member

    Mar 14, 2005
    great game dempsey was amazing and proved he should be a regular starter. anyword on who got MoM?
     
  10. WarriorSoccer

    WarriorSoccer Member

    Nov 3, 2005
    This was an extremely entertaining match and Dempsey played very well, but some of the defending by Bocanegra was just disturbing.
     
  11. kjksccr

    kjksccr Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    San Carlos, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clint was awesome, enthusiastic, tons of effort and results. Boca made a bad mistake on the second goal but otherwise was adequate. Fulham's tactics are just really strange. Like the announcer said, like 4-2-4 at times. They have no pressure in midfield in terms of shape and Smertin and Davis are expected to do way too much work. It makes it real hard for the defenders and their offense is a bunch of hit and hope long balls. If there was more build up Kamara and Dempsey would be a deadly combination. If they don't change something they are in for a relegation battle. Problem is, the team is Sanchez' given his spending and they are stuck with him.

    Jol is gone. He pulled everyone back, took off the skill players and just stopped playing. They should have played possession football and killed the game off. He is coaching scared.
     
  12. 60611

    60611 Member+

    Jan 23, 2007
    Chicago
    He should've already been starting. Other Fulham players have gotten guaranteed minutes and haven't produced squat. Dempsey's strike rate per minute played is quite good.
     
  13. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    He is going to get crap, but I really don't blame him all that much honestly. He has a CB partner who plays just like him (left footed and all), a RB who is quite possibly not worthy of the Championship, and a MF that can't pass at all.

    GRANTED Bocanegra did not play that well today. I would say on a scale of 1-10 he was like a 6. He did well at moments and did poor at moments. At least he showed up on occassion when everything broke down. Where was the other CB?

    Worst CB pairing in the EPL (only because they are the exact same player and seem to play the position similarly )
     
  14. fifa010

    fifa010 Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Fulham sure could use rico clark
     
  15. USAin2006

    USAin2006 Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Boca was piss poor today. Hardly a 6. I'd be surprised if Sky Sports gives him more than a 4. Clint OTOH was great. The hustle on the defensive side was def there today, not something we've always seen from him...he was terrific.
     
  16. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They could use Toja even more. I don't think either can get a work permit, thankfully.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Excellent point. Dempsey ends the game with a goal and 2 assists, clearly the MOTM. He had the best technique of any non-Bulgarian on the field...and could give even the Bulgy a run for his money. Fantastic game from Clint. He looked good enough that you could see him leading Fulham to safety.

    Nice spirit from Fulham, but they need better players. And a better manager. What kind of moron plays a high line against Keane and Berbatov when Bocanegra is his FAST central defender? The new guy was pathetic on the 2nd goal.
     
  18. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    Hell
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love Boca and all, but if he's your best defender at the Premiership level, you may have a problem back there.

    Interesting team - It seems like they are on the low end of the talent table, but they really scratch and claw and fight every single game. Makes for some pretty entertaining games.

    It'll also be interesting to see what happens when they play the Sunderlands and Derbys of the world. Arsenal, Villa, Bolton, Spurs and Boro (am I missing one here?) - not the easiest of starts to the season.
     
  19. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bolton, I think.
     
  20. Sachsen

    Sachsen Member+

    Aug 8, 2003
    Broken Arrow, Okla.
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fulham agrees with everyone's choice for MotM:

    "fulhamfc.com Man of the Match

    Clint Dempsey: An oustanding all-round performance by the American. His energy, determination and never-say-die attitude over the course of the game was crucial to Fulham's comeback. His first half goal, an outstanding header from a Simon Davies corner also kept Spurs within reaching distance going into the break."

    Great pic on Fulham's website:

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  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Dempsey seemed to be in on every play in getting a goal and an assist. Bocanegra looked shaky but then seemed to recover a makeup for some mistakes, Keller should have started as Antti Niemi made a critical mistake on the first goal.
     
  22. El Steve

    El Steve Member

    Sep 7, 2004
    Pittsburgh
    Club:
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    skysports lost credibility from me today...

    dempsey: 7 "powerful header"
    bocanegra: 6 "solid performance"

    best 7 performance i've seen
     
  23. dethfire

    dethfire Member

    Jun 24, 2005
    should be 1 goal and 2 assists. much needed point!
     
  24. Plan B

    Plan B New Member

    Aug 9, 2004
    Chicago
    Boca's 6 is generous, but Clint should have gotten an 8. As rare as they should be, nobody on Fulham deserved a 9 in this game. Clint played very, very well, was the clear Fulham MOTM and was one of the two or three best players on the field in a chippy game (w/Berbatov and Bale), but saying he deserves a 9 is pretty stat-centric, I think: He was quiet for 40 minutes, then kept his team in the game and put his teammates in good positions, but on each of those assists a lot of things had to happen that didn't have to do with Clint-- the deflection, the over-head kick. Both were cases of him scrapping to keep plays alive, neither was him setting up anything more than a half-chance. Great game, they owe the point in large part to him, but a 9 is a bit much.
     
  25. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Additionally, we are starting to see more leadership skills from Clint. His fight became contagious, and the entire team caught on after a while.

    I really think the key to his career is channeling that 'chip on the shoulder, I'll show you' attitude, balancin it with the confidence he showed today. He definently has a lot of weapons and is a handful. As long as he keeps learning (for example, he made a nice turn and shot from distance. He tried a little too hard to power it. Next time, same situation- if he takes a little off it, that might be a spectacular upper shelf goal. Let's see if he learns that. Certainly, he'll keep getting those opportunites, he creates space well for himself.

    He definitely belongs, and could even be a star in the league if he can consistently deliver like today.

    Over Fulham's last 7 or 8 games dating back to last year, he's likely been their best performer...but certainly one of the best (and most dangerous) hands down.
     

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