big news out of NJ tomorrow

Discussion in 'NJ/NY Sky Blue' started by soccerreigns, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Smulan

    Smulan Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    Surely nobody is naive enough to believe that the Sawyer problems were purely one-sided?
     
  2. NYsocc10

    NYsocc10 New Member

    Jan 15, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-...ey-officially-named-head-coach-of-Sky-Blue-FC

    an old article written months back when Lindsey was named head coach. heres a quote from management

    clearly they had belief in her at one time but something along the road went wrong. id hate to think that it just had to do with the assistant coach getting the ax but i believe it had to do with her being uncomfortable from the beginning with the firing of Sawyers but still wanting to be with the team or atleast a few players on that team. the assistant coach fiasco was her ticket out of there. i hope she speaks out with the actual truth in detail.
     
  3. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only if you believe what management is saying now. Considering they're pretending the previous assistant coach never existed, I'm not sure I do.
     
  4. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, I thought Metrostars had a dysfunctional FO...

    SBFC management may have shot themselves in the foot by badmouthing Lindsey, especially given that what they said about her supposedly poor performance is just not true. Given the nature of the comments, what sane head coach worth his or her salt would want to walk into that cesspit next year knowing that there's every chance they'll be undermined, backstabbed and slandered by their bosses?
     
  5. A Fan

    A Fan New Member

    Aug 15, 1999
    I'm moving to Europe for grad school in the fall. So maybe then I'll tell you about how wrong you've been in 99% of your SB posts in the past 2 yrs.

    Or maybe I'll just enjoy being a SB fan next year knowing how amazing the players and all of our fans are. :-D
     
  6. cobi13

    cobi13 Member

    Aug 16, 2004
    NY
    Apparently they have been contacted by eight head coaches already for the job, so maybe a few...
     
  7. soccerreigns

    soccerreigns New Member

    Jul 22, 2009
    oh please please let us know..if you have inside info its your duty to let us know...haha sound like someone else on here....hahahha

    just having fun......there will be coaches interested b/c this team is a great bunch of ladies.....
     
  8. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Indeed. She is the assistant's direct supervisor. If there are allegations which might get him fired, to not involve her is poor management.

    But I thought it was open season on him?

    Indeed. If he was dating/sleeping w/ more than one player (or staff member) it is slimy on a personal level but they are all adults and stuff like that happens in many work places. And if there was illegal stuff (ie harassment) then his supervisor needs to be in the loop. If management doesn't trust the coach to do her job, then I can see why she might decide to leave. I think the "too close to Sawyers" is smokescreen--even if he is the biggest meanie ever.

    While Lindsey may not be completely blameless given that she walked out w/ only 2 games left, I can't quite believe the SB management side unconditionally. I'd love to get Lindsey's viewpoint. And Sawyers, too. He's been very quiet since his departure.
     
  9. Stepup

    Stepup New Member

    Aug 21, 2008
    Club:
    Sky Blue FC
    Lindsey was a good coach and will be in the future. The girls liked her and the team turned around under her leadership. Management needs to give a better explanation and are a bunch of losers for dissing her like they did.
     
  10. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I guess it's all speculation untill the whole story comes out and we hear the whole story from both parties. We still have no idea what happened behind the scenes concerning the assistant or Lindsey's actual reasons for quitting since she has said nothing. We just know a few bits and pieces.
    Maybe after the season is over we may know more.
     
  11. pasoccerdad

    pasoccerdad Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    KOP
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feel free to contact me. You have my email - I will not POST anything from any personal conversation.

    I keep no secret of who I am - or that I am over 2 hours away and most of what I put up is pure speculation. I don't claim to have any inside info, I have several players are I am friendly with, but I do not post ony personal conversations on here, because I want them to continue to trust me

    Most of my interactions with SB have not been positive on the whole, albeit not entirely unpleasent

    You say how amazing the players and the fans are.... not the organization.
     
  12. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    we only know the management's side of this story, so lindsey comes out with somewhat of a foul smell.

    however, since she took over this team, they have been playing very well - much better than they were under a much more heralded head coach. that's the sign of a good leader. so i expect her, in spite of this incident, to be back in coaching after everything dies down.
     
  13. pasoccerdad

    pasoccerdad Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    KOP
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    how can you heap praise on a Coach (when taking away the interim tag) and then say she was not a good coach, in over her her head, still chatting with Sawyers...

    Wishy Washy organization, they should have handled it the way they handled the Sawyers incident... guess they don't like it when people leave on their own terms

    By saying that, it makes Lindsey look ok for leaving, not good or bad
     
  14. Mille_RULZ

    Mille_RULZ New Member

    Dec 1, 2006
    New JACK City, NY
    There is not enough information to determine what really happened. more details from the parties would be required.

    What can be said is that Blue Sky management has not distinguished themselves this year.

    1. They select a coach (Sawyers) who has to be dismissed not halfway through the season.

    2. They promote an assistant to be interim coach...but she decides it's best she resigns without comment (so far). Managements departing words are not salutory.

    3. Now, they are relying on a player Coach (a great player)....at least for two games, maybe more if they qualify for the playoffs. This is one sport where a player-coach combo is not ideal on game day. It's not like she has an inning or series of down, or free substitution where she can rest on the bench and make the next move. She's gonna have to do substitutes on the fly -- or she will have to delegate that responsibility.
     
  15. Morris20

    Morris20 Member

    Jul 4, 2000
    Upper 90 of nowhere
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    The evidence that SBFC isn't too smart is that if Lindsay isn't talking, it's pretty stupid to be slagging her. You thank her for her hard work, wish her well, and hire someone else. Being nasty just makes it harder down the line, and it's hard to see this being helpful to SBFC or anyone else.

    OTH, as a Washington Freedom fan, it's always fun to see a dysfunctional organization to the north . . .
     
  16. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would think that most coaches could establish their substitution policy for a game ahead of time with possibly some tweaks for halftime, e.g., our starting right flank defender is only effective for about 70 minutes, so put in so-and-so when she starts looking gassed. If we're behind after 60 minutes, take out such-and-such a defender and put in a substitute forward. Here's a list of the starters and the best players to go in for them if they have to come out. And so on. Then they leave that with the assistant.
     
  17. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    this makes sense.

    but i have to agree with mille rulz.

    soccer is one of the worst games to be a player coach when you are playing every minute of every game as rampone is probably going to have to do. there are so many things that you have to keep juggling even as you're playing the game. plus all the people managing that's just impossible because you are a fellow player and friend as well as their coach.
     
  18. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not that I necessarily disagree w/ the substance of your post, but one point of order, I believe Rampone is still out injured (this week at least) since she is still recovering from her abdominal surgery relating to the ovarian cyst rupture.
     
  19. Charbs21

    Charbs21 New Member

    Mar 17, 2009
    Northern Hemisphere
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  20. ManUFan17

    ManUFan17 New Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Looks like the rest of the story is coming to light now....pretty ridiculous to leave your team like that
     
  21. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, kind of sounds to me as if she was having issues already, and this was just the last straw:

    "I point to the public comments made by Sky Blue as an example of the behavior I do not wish to be a part of any longer."

    That it took four or five days for the management to admit that Dorini was fired is pretty telling to me.
     
  22. ManUFan17

    ManUFan17 New Member

    Jul 11, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I don't believe it said that - what it said was he was suspended - then resigned......
     
  23. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think that's a legal technicality. Sawyers was "suspended" and then he was gone.
     
  24. Bonnie Lass

    Bonnie Lass Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 20, 2000
    Up top
    Club:
    Olympique Lyonnais
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    From Marrone's response, I don't blame her one bit. It's one thing to tell his side of the story, quite another to go on and on and on about her inadequacies as coach and what she did wrong, etc. Every hint of a compliment was quickly turned around and made into a negative.
     
  25. soccerreigns

    soccerreigns New Member

    Jul 22, 2009
    thats what i heard was that the assistant was suspended while they looked into the situation. but who knows if we will ever know the truth...
     

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