Berhalter's Positives

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by adam tash, Oct 16, 2023.

  1. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    I guarantee they will be more nuanced and reasonable than calling anyone who isn't an MLS stan a euro snob (along many others). I also think there is a lot more nuance to my posts than people like you actually read.
     
  2. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s a very fair take. I personally think Gregg is ok. He’s done some things well, to be sure.

    But it is fair to ask if perhaps some else could get more out of our talent. I suspect someone might raise the ceiling of our international and domestic based talent.
     
  3. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yeah...especially coming off a 2-1 loss to Trinidad....and the ever-darkening shadow of the lack of any marquee wins on berhalter's USMNT resume continuing to loom over his tenure....

    ....its getting harder and harder to argue that this berhalter version of the usmnt is reflective of its highest potential.....

    berhalter is great at beating up on minnows, though, I think we can all agree on that.
     
  4. The Clientele

    The Clientele Member+

    Portland Timbers
    Jun 25, 2005
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We did ok at the World Cup. We outplayed England for periods of the game, which was fun to watch. But we have not had one single game where we have had a major win against a major opponent outside of our confederation.

    We have had sustained success against Mexico, which has been, at least to me, a little bit of a surprise. But this team does not have a major scalp, such as the win against Spain in 2009, or Portugal going back over 20 years.

    The Iran win was enjoyable, but still not the major upset we want to see to show progress.
     
  5. WrmBrnr

    WrmBrnr Member+

    Apr 12, 2001
    San Carlos
    Just create a thread called "2026 Cycle Coaching" or something similar. Less of an incendiary title than previous iterations. And if there happens to be a coaching change, discussions can move along accordingly.
     
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  6. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Guardian has released the top 100 players in the world numbers 11-100.
    I'm guessing all the Americans must be in the top 10.
     
  7. nycfc919

    nycfc919 Member+

    Aug 17, 2015
    Just hired a Swiss NT assistant for the USMNT, looks like a very qualified hire. Also probably helps a bit in the pursuit of Bryan Okoh.
     
  8. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Players in The Guardian top 100 by FIFA ranking (top 20)

    1. Argentina 9
    2. France 12
    3. England 13
    4. Belgium 4
    5. Brazil 7
    6. Netherlands 4
    7. Portugal 5
    8. Spain 5
    9. Italy 3
    10. Croatia 3
    11. Uruguay 3
    12. USA 0
    13. Morocco 2
    14. Colombia 1
    15. Mexico 1
    16. Germany 8
    17. Japan 1
    18. Switzerland 1
    19. Denmark 0
    20. Senegal 0
     
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  9. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's all Berhalter, Garber and MLS' fault!!!
     
  10. bsky22

    bsky22 Member+

    Dec 8, 2003
    Not their fault, but definitely did nothing to help. If only Aaron Long hadn't gotten hurt. I'm looking forward to introducing you guys to the ones MLS academies are churning out world class players.
     
  11. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    GreGGo The Great!.
    We Love Big GB.
    Gregg, The Once & Future King.
    The Brothers Berhalter Beat Up The Brothers Bulger, ye Bloody Bastards.
    Nepotism is The New Orange.
    Better than Pep, The Berhalter Story.
    General Egg , Hero of Port O' Spain!
    My Brother's Keeper: The Testament of St. Gregg.
    "The Philosophy of The System: A Critique of Poor Reasons" by I'm-an-Annual Berhalter.
    Kickass: The Life and Times of a Manager for Life.
    Jay & Gregg's Excellent Adventure!
    "Bring Me The Head of Claudio Reyna!" A Cinematic Masterpiece by the Ed Woods of American Soccer. [Coming soon to a World Cup near you].

    There, ye doubters, a mighty dozen works demonstrating the magnificence of our positively glorious Manager Berhalter.
     
  12. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    https://apnews.com/article/us-socce... Vincent Cavin,men's national team since 2014.

    not really sure what the strengths of this new asst coach are....but i like the profile


    IF he is a guy who can fill-in for gregggs weaknesses (inability to be spontaneous and adapt within games, overall rigidity, areas of weakness in assessing player pool)

    if he can be a guy that helps greggg overcome his weaknesses....then this could be a great hire

    If greggg can find assistants who can compensate for his weaknesses....then I would have no issue with him staying as coach....


    hopefully that is what the thinking is with this hire....seems promising
     
  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gregg has weaknesses?
     
  14. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gregg is the Berry Perfection of Coaching.
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me say for the record that he appears to be a very average coach. Once again, I didn't agree with his reappointment. But he's also not the Antichrist.
     
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  16. Mahtzo1

    Mahtzo1 Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    So Cal
    @adam tash I have a few questions: I'm a little curious...forgive me if you said earlier and I missed it, but what do YOU think Berhalter's positives are?

    Do you think he has any?

    Honest question because you mention the new guy hopefully compensating for Gregg's weaknesses. That implies, to me, that you believe he does have some redeeming qualities.
     

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