Barbados Roster (team FROM Barbados!)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by garbaggio, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. garbaggio

    garbaggio Member

    Jan 3, 2001
    Arlington
    There's another thread confusingly titled "Re:Barbados Roster" but it's actually about the US team callups for Barbados in the home-and-away series that starts this Sunday June 15.

    If anyone knows anything about Barbados national team player pool, post your knowledge here. From the US fans' standpoint Barbados should be a minnow. But the minnow we faced 4 years ago, Grenada, included some shark-like minnows like Shalrie Joseph and Jason Roberts.

    Here's the boxscores from FIFA for Grenada's home-and-away elimination qualifying series with Dominica in February & March.

    Dominica 1 Barbados 1

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/matches/round=250441/match=10000000/index.html

    Barbados 1 Dominica o:

    http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/matches/round=250441/match=10000001/index.html

    Players used:
    Alvin Rouse (keeper, both games)
    Dyson James (both games)
    Jonathan Straker
    Bryan Neblett (both games)
    Romell Brathwaite (both games)
    Jonathan Nurse (both games)
    Norman Forde (both games)
    Rondell Vaugn
    Rashida Williams (both games but redcarded in 2nd leg)
    Elvis DeFreitas (both games)
    Neil Harvey
    Dwayne McClean
    John Parris (both games)
    Riviere Williams (both games)

    Emmerson Boyce (2nd game)
    Jonathan Forte (2nd game)
    Romelle Burgess (2nd game)
    Dwayne Stanford (2nd leg)


    According to Wikipedia, the following players have played professionally in England.

    Emmerson Boyce (Wigan), Jonathan Forte (Scunthorpe), Jonathan Nurse (Dagenham & R).

    Also listed on the Wikipedia page of Barbadian footballers are the following players who may be retired or not called up so far:

    Paul Ifill (Crystal Palace), Tom Soares (Crystal Palace) and his brother Louie Soares (Aldershot Town).

    Wikipedia (brief) list of Barbadian footballers:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Barbadian_footballers

    How many English soccer fans or Bajans can fill in some details about these players or the players expected to play in this series?
     
  2. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Rouse, the likely starting keeper, has played in Ireland the past few years but was just released.

    Forde is the team's captain, plays in Barbados.

    Ifill is their best player by far, he's expected to play in the qualifiers.
     
  3. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    It's too bad Rashida Williams was red carded ... I always liked her work on the Office.
     
  4. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Barnet player will not play for Barbados

    Starting lineup from the most recent friendly (3-0 loss to Bermuda):

    A.Chase, N.Forde (capt) J.Parris, D.Jones, M.Jones (B.Carrington 69), G.Belle, B.Nesbitt, R.Williams, R.Braithwaite, W.Burrowes (B.Skeete 55), M.Marshall

    From the Bermuda newspaper:

    Notes on various players

    Greg Belle - right back
    Emmerson Boyce
    Romell Brathwaite
    Romelle Burgess
    Brett Carrington - "teenage wonder boy"
    Adrian Chase - backup keeper? started recent friendlies
    Elvis DeFreitas
    Omari Eastmond - another keeper, third string?
    Norman Forde - captain and "key player"
    Jonathan Forte
    Neil Harvey
    Paul Ifill - best player, only notable foreign player
    Dyson James - "key player"
    Dwayne McClean
    Madalisto Mikoloma - defensive midfielder
    Bryan Neblett - "key player"
    Jonathan Nurse
    John Parris - "experienced defender" and "key player"
    Alvin Rouse - likely starting keeper, but has he been called in?
    Barry Skeete - "former Argentine professional" and "good marker"
    Dwayne Stanford - former top scorer in Barbados premier league
    Jonathan Straker - left back
    Rondell Vaughn - has "patience and skill"
    Rashida Williams - will miss first game due to red card
    Riviere Williams

    http://bararchive.bits.baseview.com...ode=allwords&archive_pubname=Daily+Nation
    http://bararchive.bits.baseview.com...ode=allwords&archive_pubname=Daily+Nation
    http://www.royalgazette.com/siftolo...le.jsp?articleId=7d863b730030000&sectionId=70
    http://www.nationnews.com/story/120346569144868.php
     
  5. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In FIFA 08 Dag and Red are the worst rated team so I usually pick them to start a managerial career. Nurse is rated as a 46. Most of the U.S. Team is rated in the 70s, with a few in the high 60s, and Donovan topping the rankings with an 80.

    Here's how FIFA 08 rates possible Barbados callups:

    Committed to Barbados:
    Jonathan Forte - 64 - Striker
    Emmerson Boyce - 68 - Center Back
    Paul Ifill - 65 - Right Midfield
    Mark McCammon - 54 - Striker
    Jon Nurse - 46 - Striker

    Eligible but not committed:
    Tom Soares - 66 - Center Midfield
    Marlon Harewood - 73 - Striker

    And our likely starters:

    Howard - 79
    Cherundolo - 75
    Onyewu - 75
    Bocanegra - 76
    Pearce - 65
    Edu - 64
    Bradley - 68
    Beasley - 77
    Dempsey - 69
    Donovan - 80
    Johnson - 77
     
  6. fire428

    fire428 Member

    May 9, 2008
    Elmhurst
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    harewood is from barbados has he ever made an aperance good player. big guy good pace.
     
  7. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Harewood is from England, his parents are from Barbados. He turned them down in January, but not sure whether he's changed his mind.

    Tom Soares is quite young and has played in the U-21 setup for England, so I'm guessing he's going to wait for a bit. His brother Louie has played for Barbados already.
     
  8. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
    You must not have the roster update from the Online Gaming. All those have changed.
     
  9. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    EA Sports never really rates their players very well in any game, do they?
     
  10. Prime Time

    Prime Time Member

    May 1, 2004
    South Florida
    No, except in FIFA. I think they're pretty accurate in FIFA as opposed to other sports. I remember Sam Madison being a 94 in speed in Madden back when I use to play and although I liked Sam, he was nowhere near that quick.
    FIFA is much better with their accuracy of player's talents and I think it comes from competing with Winning Eleven for the past few years as WE is always accurate with ratings. I mean one of Eddie Lewis' top attribute is crossing. That is just one example. FIFA got much better this year and out did WE for the first time in a long time.
     
  11. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, no network adapter for PS2. It doesn't make any difference really.
     
  12. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Toscana
    Well that certainly sounds promising.
     
  13. jonspider

    jonspider Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    South Carolina
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like they are still looking for players.



    http://www.barbadossoccer.com/


    Give Barbados a Chance. We got a Jersey with your name on it, mon. We kid, we don't have dem budgets for de fancy lettering and all.
    (Ok, I have no idea what accents they use)
     
  14. Kevin8833

    Kevin8833 Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    Estero, FL
    Wow, that's pretty sad.
     
  15. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, does this mean that if Barbados doesn't have enough players, the US would win the 2-legged series by forfeit?

    Maybe this explains why we have yet to see a Barbados Roster for this match...
     
  16. mcnaulty21

    mcnaulty21 Member

    Feb 6, 2007
    Wisconsin
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone happen to have a list of the updated ratings?
     
  17. Jwaksman

    Jwaksman New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    You know, we can put this in perspective. According to wiki, Barbados has a TOTAL POPULATION of 279,000 people. To put that in comparison, that's less than half the size of North Dakota. Imagine North Dakota trying to put together two even soccer teams of their best citizens... do you think they'd be able to beat Barbados?


    It's really amazing to think of a whole country being made up of so few people...
     
  18. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    New Jersey
    Even more amazing is that they have as many CONCACAF votes as we do.
     
  19. Jwaksman

    Jwaksman New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Eh... all of these international organizations are that way. It's why the UN is so messed up - Syria, Lebanon, Libya and Cuba get more votes than the US, England and France...
     
  20. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Iceland has about as many people as Barbados... and can put together an entire roster of players at foreign top-flight clubs, which can give even the Germans a run for their money...
     
  21. Jwaksman

    Jwaksman New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Fifa ranks Iceland 85th and Barbados 117th. So Iceland is getting more out of their population (which is only 12% larger than Barbados), but it's not really as big of a difference as you make it out to be.
     
  22. fuzzyBunny

    fuzzyBunny Member

    Aug 24, 1999
    Palo Alto CA
    I would like to see votes based on the your FIFA ranking, more specifically, the FIFA points. Come up with a formula to level it off a bit so the lower ranked get some votes. Something like votes = Sqrt(points) + 5.

    For example,
    Code:
    Ranking  Country     Points  Votes
    1        Argentina   1559    44
    14       Mexico      1020    37
    21       USA         874     35
    120      El Salvador 242     21
    121      Barbados    239     20
    186      Nicaragua   47      12
    199      Montserrat  0       5
    

    Fifa can determine the equation based on how whiny the smaller countries get.
     
  23. Jwaksman

    Jwaksman New Member

    Jul 7, 2007
    USA
    Club:
    Maccabi Haifa FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Can't happen because all of the small countries would vote it down. Once organizations get started, it's pretty hard to change things mid-stream. Going back to my UN example... if we were re-starting it today, don't you think we'd want China & Russia off the security council? And don't you think we'd want the western democracies to have more votes than the third world america/jew-hating dictatorships? Of course... but it's too late to change the rules now. Those with the power will never give it up voluntarily.
     
  24. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To put it even in more perspective I live in a city that has a population of 220K...thats only 60K less than the whole island nation...and our youth teams have been pumping out some ODP and YNT prospects lately.
     
  25. mbar

    mbar Member+

    Apr 30, 1999
    Los Angeles, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there any rule that they must release their roster by a certain date?

    Surprised we haven't seen it yet.
     

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