"Seville have rejected a £8 million bid from Arsenal for striker Julio Baptista.... It's been suggested Arsenal have warned Seville that they are prepared to take the matter to a special international transfer tribunal if they continue to resist their offers. Meanwhile..." http://www.tribalfootball.com/july/spanishnews2050705.html Forget about the dodgy source and the use of the word "suggested" for a minute. Just what the hell is a "special international transfer tribunal" and how can that be called on because a club rejects an offer for a player? It's probably just some random Aussie shite, but I was wondered if anyone had any ideas?
It has been suggested that the Special International Transfer Tribunal, or SpITT for short, is an adjunct to the G-14. When teams outside the G-14 refuse reasonable offers from member clubs, the offending club can be called before a special tribunal made up of a group of elite agents. Pini Zahavi heads the tribunal, and he has the ultimate power to sanction teams for not "playing the game." Sanctions include increased agent fees and under the table payments on future sales, along with the spectre of constantly unsettled players and frequent tabloid stories. This tribunal has never actually been called to order as the selling clubs have always folded under the massive financial pressure. I'll bet that Seville does the same, they know that they really have no choice.
Or...... It could just be a new contract ruling which states that players over the age of 23 who have fulfilled 3 years of their current contract can leave the club freely with a special tribunal setting the transfer fee between the two clubs.
Is this thing for real? Cause if it is, it's the most evil thing I have ever heard of in football. Makes me feel that anyone is going to hell if he does call up that SPITT thing. (Then again, which manager isn't going to hell?) Edit: Never mind, I have little doubt that you are pulling our legs. Nothing from that dodgy source could be true.
So we could for example say we want John Terry and say we offered something reasonable and take Chelsea to this so called court.
The fact that this is headed by Pini Zahavi would be reason enough to avoid it like the plague... Seriously we all know what Arsenal and Gooners think of Zahavi and the like and the current climate and if we were to go this route we all need to shut up and stop complaining no matter how legitimate the complaints about the conduct of other clubs/agents/players on the transfer market. Even if it is part of the Bosman ruling and little more than an arbitration board for transfer fees we should stay away from it at all costs. I might change my mind if we were discussing Ronaldinho or Trezeguet or Kaka or Gerrard but as promising as Baptista is, it would be very reckless to put ourselves in Zahavi's hands as the next time he gets his hooks in one of our lads we would be hypocrites to protest...
Forgot about that. Article 17 Consequences of Terminating a Contract Without Just Cause The following provisions apply if a contract is terminated without just cause: 1. In all cases, the party in breach shall pay compensation. Subject to the provisions of Art. 20 and annex 4 in relation to Training Compensation, and unless otherwise provided for in the contract, compensation for breach shall be calculated with due consideration for the law of the country concerned, the specificity of sport, and any other objective criteria. These criteria shall include, in particular, the remuneration and other benefits due to the player under the existing contract and/or the new contract, the time remaining on the existing contract up to a maximum of five years, the fees and expenses paid or incurred by the Former Club (amortised over the term of the contract) and whether the contractual breach falls within a Protected Period. 2. Entitlement to compensation cannot be assigned to a third party. If a Professional is required to pay compensation, the Professional and his New Club shall be jointly and severally liable for its payment. The amount may be stipulated in the contract or agreed between the parties. 3. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall also be imposed on any player found to be in breach of contract during the Protected Period. This sanction shall be a restriction of four months on his eligibility to play in Official Matches. In the case of aggravating circumstances, the restriction shall last six months. In all cases, these sporting sanctions shall take effect from the start of the following Season of the New Club. Unilateral breach without just cause or sporting just cause after the Protected Period will not result in sporting sanctions. Disciplinary measures may, however, be imposed outside of the Protected Period for failure to give due notice of termination (i.e. within fifteen days following the last match of the Season). The Protected Period starts again when, while renewing the contract, the duration of the previous contract is extended. 4. In addition to the obligation to pay compensation, sporting sanctions shall be imposed on any club found to be in breach of contract or found to be inducing a breach of contract during the Protected Period. It shall be presumed, unless established to the contrary, that any club signing a Professional who has terminated his contract without just cause has induced that Professional to commit a breach. The club shall be banned from registering any new players, either nationally or internationally, for two Registration Periods. 5. Any person subject to the FIFA Statutes and FIFA regulations (club officials, players’ agents, players etc.) who acts in a manner designed to induce a breach of contract between a Professional and a club in order to facilitate the transfer of the player shall be sanctioned. I prefer antifan's though.
Ummm...Martin? Re-read the post. It was all a joke from anti, though a damn fine one and rep-worthy, but they won't let me rep him.
Figured it was in part but reading the follow-up post to his I wasn't sure. Agree it was good, though, and wanted to rep you for the "Legion of Doom" refererence, too. But PLEASE let there be NO "Wonder Twins" references unless the twins in question are Lynda Carter's *growls hungily like Homer Simpson*
Lynda Carter? Man, that's old school. I prefer to think of the now-single Shannon Elizabeth's Wonder Twins from American Pie.
Forget old school/new school(hey that'd make a good segment on "SportsCenter" - I gotta call ESPN...) Tell me if Bardot wasn't La Bardot of "And God Created Woman" (well, without the craziness and fascist political views) you'd diss her. Or if you were presented with Sophia Loren from when she made "Boy On A Dolphin" you'd say no. Right. As for today there is only one word in women...MILIAN. DAMN DAMN DAMN...as for Nick Cannon Dave Chapelle said it best - "************ Nick Cannon!" Get your hands of my future trophy wife now dammit!
I Dont Care How We Sign Him, As Long As We Do! It Seems A Bit Out Of Order Tho That A Club Is Forced To Sell A Player Just Because A Team Are Making A Good Offer.
As I understand it, Team A does not want to sell the player and have refused all 'reasonable' offers from Team B. The player for Team A wants to go to Team B, which would terminate his contract. Since Team A won't let the player out of his contract even though appropriate compensation has been offered, the matter goes to the tribunal. The key I believe is that the player wants to go and needs to get out of his contract. This ruling I expect was prepared so that a player is not forced to stay at any club if the club doesn't want to let them go. Team A isn't being forced to sell a player ONLY because their is a good offer on the table.
I think they have to meet the existing terms of the contract, any fees or other payments resulting in the move, and then some fair price, which as you said, can be subjective given the recent transfer amounts paid recently. They may look at the statistics of other players in similar moves and of similar status (though this can be subjective as well). Most likely it is a fancy bargaining table.