Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    03 AM Sesay goes on RL loan. Not surprising no II team and hard to make squad when only 20 can.

    LMAO, Leon Muller never made it at Darmstadt, wouldn't call it successful. And Croswaithe went on 2nd RL loan but to another club.

    Curious to see if 02 W Croswaithe and 03 AM Sesay are back in 2BL come 2023 or not?


    Carsten Wehlmann: "It is important for John Peter Sesay's development that he gets a lot of playing time in his first men's season. We are of the opinion - also because of the positive experiences with Henry Crosthwaite and Leon Müller - that Rot-Weiss Koblenz is the right loan club for his next step. We will follow John's season in the regional league closely and of course we wish him every success for the challenge in Koblenz."

    Sesay switched to the Lilien youth team in 2018, and last season the offensive player, who was still eligible to play for the U19s, played three mandatory games for the professional team.
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm not huge on loaning, its double edge sword.
    Players get loan dump due to clubs know they have 0 intent on integrating. Those same clubs bring in players in same position.......so who says there will be a spot when loan is over? LMAO.

    a loan club has less incentive in your dev than owned players. So its never a guarantee of anything.

    dumb as frick but a lot of loan clubs deceive players too. They have no intent towards you but bench/back up role. But players think they have a shot at XI.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    its like Bayern always laugh when Brazzo pretends that go on loan and you'll get chance in 1st when comeback....only for club to bring in someone else and get fake preseason chances. LMAO.

    too much of it is BS and illusion of chances by clubs.

    give me a break if any think going on 2BL-1st Abroad is good enough for Bayern 1st. I think 2BL will never be seen as good enough, so any 2BL loan=we are selling you.

    1st Abroad is only worth it if its for a CL regular and that's reality.

    only 20 spots are available and all who come sign long term. Where the ******** do you see any open 1st spots? That is why Bayern is a waste of time and why all these kids are dumb.

    they think by going on loan it improves 1st chances.....lol. Your better off perm out and joining another 1BL club.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    again and again, Bayern seems to favor foreign players.


    so why is this guy get to go on loan whereas real Bayern players get to play RL all season????

    Croatian 05 M=too good for RL, needs to go higher.
    random Nigerian 03 M=SKIPS RL and goes to Austrian Bundesliga

    LMAO from comments, he wasn't that good according to others.

    German players too good for RL=STFU your staying all year to prop up II.

    Irony just watch German players play RL until 2023 just to end up going to 2BL-Austrian 1st in 2023, LMAO. Just DELAYING THE INEVITABLE.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    Hasan Salihamidžić: "Johannes has developed extremely well with us and we are convinced that he will take the next step as a professional. He is another big talent from our Campus. Johannes has great reflexes and brings everything as a goalkeeper"


    how the ******** do you take next step if you never play?:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
    pointless will just be 3rd GK until he leaves perm. So not interesting to follow until he leaves Bayern.

    Big Talent from our Campus that has 0 Germany YNT caps too. Not saying he has no talents but dfb prefered Urbig, Ernst, Lord etc to him. Will be curious to see which 03 GKs make it at pros. From memory, 03 has tons of GK prospects.GK is a position which who gives a shit about anything 3rd Liga-UXX. What matters is breaking through higher until then, its all open.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think my ideal Bayern II XI
    Kabadayi----------------Copado-----------------Wanner
    -----------------------Ibrahimovic-------------------------
    ----------------Aseko-------------------Aydin------------------------
    Herold-------Buchmann-------Janitzek----------Bruckner
    ----------------------------Schenk---------------------------


    funny enough likely to NEVER be seen.
    as Buchmann (injured), Aseko and Ibrahimovic will start in U19.

    this is likely last season in II for Herold,Bruckner, Aydin, Copado, Kabadayi, Janitzek......only way to stick around is 3rd Liga promotion.

    so far 6/11 are current XIs of II as well. Would be 7 if Kabadayi wasn't injured. Wanner looks headed for II this weekend, so could be 8.
     
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  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    on Ranos
     
  8. AdiD

    AdiD Member

    Mar 11, 2011
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Has anyone followed Luca Netz preseason? Have a feeling that Farke doesnt plan with him as a starter. hope he develoaps further this season. Think he looks to have huge potential
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Netz has fitness issues not helping.

    fun of German footy
    Netz, Beyer, Schade, Ezekwem, Stiller, Ngankam, Tauer, Dinkci, Fischer, Rothe etc all look injured/unfit....:confused::rolleyes::cautious:
     
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  10. Alex C

    Alex C Member+

    Oct 27, 2015
    Chatham
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    No promising GK will ever make breakthrough at Bayern, they will always want experienced #1 & #2. They also seem to stockpile a lot.

    Tbh though GK is by far the hardest position to make it, there are only 18 starter spots in BL and most teams don’t rotate that position and nearly always prefer experience inc on bench.
     
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  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah stockpile in every age group from 99-onwards
    99-Hoffmann (2BL)
    00-Fruchtl (Austria 1st #1+EL)
    01-Schneller (promising but always injured), Mayer (always injured)
    02-Kainz
    03-Schenk (#3)
    04-Hulsmann
    05-Baillis (made debut this week in RL), Bohmeke, Markert

    also add 2-3 get relegation/season and that 2BL does same in terms of exp focus for #1-#2. 2BL is real GK problem if they would give more chances than more would breakthrough, that they don't is why 3rd Liga is dead end in Germany.

    yeah, vast majority of young GKs=#3 and almost all clubs would try to avoid playing them.....

    due to this, its funny that in future any GK who breakthrough for realz top 5 leagues, jumps to Senior NT contender, LULZ. Neuer. ter Stegen, Trapp, Leno, Ortega, Baumann etc not getting younger and all already 30 and older too.

    I think for now it seems like Fruchtl, Mantl, Philipp, Ramaj, Klein might be ones closest to breakthroughs in terms of 00-01. Would like to see Unbehaun jump higher between now and Summer 2023. For 02s, for now looks like Atubolu, Schreiber and Gebhardt look like best shot.

    just look at this, shows bias towards older and how most DON'T want to play younger.

    What bothers me most at RB Salzburg at the moment is how we deal with the goalkeeping issue:Basically there is no real reason to replace Philipp Köhn, Matthias Jaissle has already contradicted himself several times in relation to this.

    He said he only pitches based on performance. Nico Mantl showed small insecurities and was replaced by Köhn. This one already had several major mistakes, but will continue to play. Mantl would have definitely deserved more chances, especially with his recent performances.


    Jaissle said something like, benching Kohn would distrupt team/dressing room, LOL. Shows that most coaches full of shit when they say they play best possible XI and based on performance. And he NEVER gave Mantl much chances to grow and gain more and more security last season. A few iffy moments=lost chance. Huge blunders=continues, LMAO.
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #16712 Ger90, Aug 5, 2022
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2022
    02 CF Hartwig on Austrian 2nd loan. Already on track for double digits
    2 goals and 1 assist in 3 matches, productive in 3/3 but 0/3 XIs.

    already in top most productive Austrian 2nd player this season, LOL.

    needs to breakthrough XI 1st.
    A player who wasted a full year to injury and Bochum having no II.
     
  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LMAO, reps say that Nagelsmann isn't a Zirkzee fan and that Zirkzee is bailing.

    yet Nagelsmann has him in squad instead of Vidovic/Wanner.

    this club is legit a waste of time, LOL.

    makes me laugh whole Vidovic to do all preseason (only 2 matches, LULZ) and then they will decide. Was always obvious that loan is next, just Bayern BS and very stupid to loan out during August when all preseason is over and season are back in Europe.

    today's match looks to have been perfect for integration....as usual=waste.
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -on 05 M Bischof
    At 17, Bischof is very young, but players like Kai Havertz and Florian Wirtz have already shown that it is possible to stir up the Bundesliga at this age. In the DFB Cup against SV Rödinghausen, Bischof played 17 minutes. Many are predicting a successful future for him, and Bischof is not lacking in self-confidence: he wants to establish himself in the Bundesliga. It won't be enough for the starting eleven, but André Breitenreiter, the new TSG coach, appreciates Bischof's cheeky style of play. So it's realistic that the top talent will get chances to show himself in the Bundesliga this season.


    -on 05 M/W Ulrich, again and again why do clubs value U19 more than II? How is U19 good match practice than II? Just seems like a club who wants to win U19 trophies.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: At least we got confirmation that his 1st training went from preseason training to PERM.

    with 17-year-old Laurin Ulrich, the next young hope is already knocking on the door to the professional squad. "Laurin has shown in the preparation that he can keep up," says Matarazzo: "The training stimuli with us are good for him. We will therefore keep him with us in training. But he should gain match practice in the U19s.”

    -on 02 AM Egloff
    Why talent Lilian Egloff is currently not a candidate for the VfB starting eleven

    Lilian Egloff has completed a strong summer preparation and is in good form - but the talent of VfB Stuttgart is not yet a candidate for the starting XI. Before the start of the Bundesliga against RB Leipzig, coach Pellegrino Matarazzo explained the reasons for this.

    Lilian Egloff: Last Joker use against Dynamo Dresden
    Most recently, the 19-year-old was slowed down again by an injury, but not stopped. In the run-up to the cup game in Dresden, it was said that the midfielder had been hit in the calf in training and will probably not be able to play. Egloff was in the squad after all, and even on the pitch from the 85th minute.

    However, there is currently no more than a squad place plus substitution for the talent from their own offspring. At least not yet. "I currently see him as a substitute. Someone who can give an impulse when you need a goal," said Pellegrino Matarazzo before the league opener against Leipzig: "In the tactical group he still has to take one or the other step. As far as being active and online, he's not ready for more just yet. But Li is on a very, very good path.”

    Matarazzo: "Li is a decider"
    The qualities of the young professional are undisputed: "It's no secret what potential Li has," says Matarazzo, "he's a decisive player, someone who can speed up the game extremely because he has an outstanding overview."

    On the field, however, it is also about working together against the ball: "Of course there is also a defensive task that he has to do. And if he gets a better handle on that and still sets his offensive accents, then he has an even higher probability that he will be on the pitch from the start.”

    Lilian Egloff has also had to struggle with injuries in the recent past. Born in Heilbronn, he has been in the Swabian professional squad since 2020. He has not yet made his final breakthrough on the big stage. Last season he slowly recovered from a metatarsal fracture and ultimately only made four short appearances in the league. "His biggest problem recently was his health, that he couldn't train with us for a longer period of time," says Matarazzo.

    This season there should now be significantly more minutes in the upper house. Egloff needs game practice and competitive toughness to take the next step in development. But he still has to exercise a bit of patience. As so often in the past.
    https://www.zvw.de/vfb-stuttgart/wa...kandidat-für-die-vfb-startelf-ist_arid-537224
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    all good about Egloff its to be expected with all past injuries that not yet there for XI BUT MAIN KEY is that he's gonna be fixed in matchday squad!!!

    also good that coach rates him highly and thinks of him as difference maker too.

    with way things going this season,
    Weisshaupt, Alidou, Leweling, Egloff, Aydin, Knauff, Samardzic, Thielmann and Lemperle......look all confirmed to make 1BL/Serie A matchday squads at MIN.

    that's good as for any player
    1st step=making regular matchday squad
    2nd step=Breakthrough XI at some point
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 AM Damar made 1BL/pro debut today.


    10 mins for 10 men Hoff.
    Did well on his debut, very good technique, ball safe very good Defensive work. Stole ball from Glabach twice in Hoff half and did well physically when players were at his back too.

    Let's go Baby U21 squad aka 2027 U21 Euro!!!!:ROFLMAO:

    Really hope that Hoff starts to integrate more their youth between 1st teamers+II+U19 they got some talents.
     
  18. dips82

    dips82 Member+

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Where was Stiller and Geiger today?
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Geiger is NOT a youth player. But what else but always unfit.

    as for Stiller he's discussed on this current page as part of injured/unfit. Seems like only Beyer was fit on time for today from that list.
     
  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05 CF Pejcinovic's 1st match for Wolfsburg was for U19.
    Scored hat trick in 3-0 W vs Mainz U19.
    Can't wait for him to start breakingthrough 1BL in near future.

    05 attacker Leibrock made his debut today for FCK II in OL/5th division.Promising player, one of more interesting youth from 2BL FCK.
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Thielmann was good today, a lot of running and hustling and bustling. Did well in combination play, won majority of his duals, and had 80% won in dribbling. Had a pretty great cross assist for 3rd goal.

    Lemperle as a 5 min+4 injury min.
    Kid played CF (can play all attacking positions too) and was a nuisance, felt like wasn't far off from scoring a hat trick, legit should have scored min 1, lol. From afar he looked huge (but isn't slow), he's actually taller tha Modeste too. Problem with beefing him up is risk of lost in speed. Still think has promising potential, a guy you would want in your squad simply for ability to make something happen.

    Thielmann is usually an XI precisly due to whole hustling/bustling which is Baumgart's style. But can't wait for day both get full unleashment together.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    04 AM Tohumcu on his RL debut and Adult XI debut (can still play U19 too) scored winning goal today for Hoff II in 2-0 W. Some saying was MOTM.

    kid made 1BL debut last season and did 1st preseason too.
    Let's hope breakthrough Hoff 1st this season

    Hoff II XI had Noll (4th GK in 1st), John (from 1st, match practice after wasting most of last season injured), Quarschie (poached from RWE, can still play U19), Conte (1st preseason and a lot of 1st bench last season), Tohumcu (1BL debut last season+preseason), Asllani (part of 1st and did preseason but also injury issues last season) in there.

    Why is 01 LB/CB Geschwill (was also XI and did make 1st bench in past) still in RL? Always problematic how some never just leave and go upwards. How many seasons do you need in RL??? And Hoff rarely loans out in fact, Hoff never loans out any without pro contract. Looks to have been made captain, a good example of how a club keeps a player around just for their own sake and not for sake of player and his dev......

    01 CF Fesenmeyer was also in XI......very stupid that he went from RL to RL as if he has any 1st prospects.

    curious to where for Konig, Bahr, Breitenbucher, Hagmann??? All absent

    Lassig, Kelati and Schmahl all in squad with 2/3 subs. Curious to see how they do.Although none of 3 have 1st prospects. Lassig won't make 1st over others. Keltai/Schmahl also have 0 1st prospects as too many AM/W with 1st prospects.

    3 Frenchies in Hoff II=3/3 not in squad. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:This club due to ROGON, legit transfered Frenchies who have real prospects, LULZ.

    I strongly believe that we will finally see Youth breakthrough Hoff. It went Geiger alone......than John/Beier brokethrough but annoying that John slowed by injuries and Beier on loan.......then it was Phlipp won bench GK role+poaching Stiller.....then NOW Becker (transfer), Bischof, Conte, Damar (transfer), Tohumcu, Asllani all look close and knocking on door. Bischof with Cup and Damar in 1BL playing too. So far ALL have 1BL caps minus Philipp, Becker and Conte.

    hilarious that Damar made his 1BL debut at Hoff but likely wouldn't at Frankfurt.

    as someone who watched Hoff preseason ONLY when youth on field.
    Bischof, Tohumcu, Conte, Damar, Asllani all looked good. John barely played due to only back from injury late. His future is unknown.

    they have prospects in ALL positions. And Overall combine U19+II and you have a lot of potential more than in past.

    Stuttgart is another club who are likely to start showing Academy jumping to 1st team after long long time of nothing to show for. Can't wait for them to unleash Egloff and for Meyer to get fit again and for their promising U19-II to breakthrough. On top of that Vagnoman a Summer transfer is their 1st choice RB too. Which is very good to see for U21!!!:thumbsup:
     
  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    LOL after 01 CF Eichinger scored on his 3rd Liga/pro debut. Today 01 CF Probst scored on his 3rd Liga/pro debut and it was an XI debut too.

    both scoring vital goals, 1 winner and other in D.
    And both come from 5th division.

    truly funny how random 01 CFs are doing better in 3rd Liga-RL then a TON of others.
     
  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    said it before, won't post much updates and that is on purpose.

    in any case, Stuttgart fans are raving about 00 RB/LB Vagnoman who made his 1BL XI debut today and almost scored on Plastic too.

    Getting liken to Kyle Walker too and has potential for Senior NT too.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    RBs
    Current Senior NT options
    96-Klosterman, 97-Henrichs, 98-Baku

    Current U21, 00-01
    -1BL=Vagnoman, Fischer (currently unfit but supposed to be Baku back up), Matriciani (1BL is that for certain? Was in squad yesterday though)

    -1st Abroad=Ludewig (Danish 1st loan, made debut last week)
    -2BL=Asta (should be back in 1BL soon enough. Was Kicker XI for 2BL this weekend matchday), Wieckhof (currently still out)

    -3rd Liga=Treu, Rorig, Knost, Pinckert, Rausch, Neuberger
    I think none of these here are relevant tbh.

    Next U21, 02-03
    -1BL=Aydin (also AM/W)
    -2BL=Mhamdi (picked up his 1st 2 pro caps)
    -1st Abroad=Kostka (Polish 1st, picked up his 1st 2 pro caps)

    -3rd Liga=Sponsel (3rd Liga loan from 1BL. Made pro debut this weekend playing 45 min sub. Next up is breakthrough XI), Semic (Dortmund II, so far getting his 1st 2 XIs at pros, made 1BL debut last season.), Halangk, Recktenwald

    -RL=How long would Bruckner and Kraft (has Mainz 1st prospects) stay in RL?
    Hoppe, Atty, Campanile, Pettrit need to breakthrough XI 1st.

    Allgaier of 2BL is doing his 2nd year on loan too. Rosenboom got high praise during Bremen preseason by brass this Summer, hope he breakthrough in future.

    Rest all here for now.
     

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