Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Next Schalke talent with a famous cousin on the go: This is Kerim Calhanoglu Schalke 04 is struggling with injury problems. This is the chance for a talent: Kerim Calhanoglu. The 18-year-old is emulating his famous cousin.

    Gelsenkirchen - FC Schalke 04 and its talents: Hardly any club in Germany produces as many future professionals from its junior division as the S04. However, the royal blues are currently benefiting little from it. But that could change again, because Kerim Calhanoglu (18) is about to make his professional debut for the "Knappen".

    Name Kerim Calhanoglu Born August 26, 2002 (age 18), Mannheim
    Current teams FC Schalke 04 U19, German U19 national soccer team FC Schalke 04:

    The Knappenschmiede continues to produce later professionals No matter whether Manuel Neuer (34), Joel Matip (29), Sead Kolasinac (27), Mesut Özil (32), Leroy Sané (24) or Julian Draxler (27) - everyone raves about the time in the miners' forge at FC Schalke 04, the junior department. Above all, this is also due to U19 coach Norbert Elgert (63), who is considered a grinder of future professionals at the end of his youth. With Ralf Fährmann (32), Malick Thiaw (19), Nassim Boujellab (21), Can Bozdogan (19), Levent Mercan (19) and Ahmed Kutucu (20), the S04 currently has six self-grown professionals in the Bundesliga team. But not everyone gets stakes. U19 coach Norbert Elgert wants to ensure more identification in the squad at Schalke. FC Schalke 04:

    Kerim Calhanoglu could make his debut against Borussia Mönchengladbach But now the next talent is about to make his professional debut. It is left-back Kerim Calhanoglu. He has only been training with the professionals since Wednesday (November 25th), but could be used directly on Saturday (November 28th), then FC Schalke 04 will play at Borussia Mönchengladbach (live ticker).

    At the end of September, Kerim Calhanoglu signed a professional contract with S04, although the 18-year-old only switched from TSG Hoffenheim to the Royal Blues in summer 2020. He immediately became captain of the U19s under Norbert Elgert and so far has played over 90 minutes in all the Royal Blues' games in the U19 Bundesliga.

    Norbert Elgert has developed a special talent plan for FC Schalke 04.
    His coach even dared to compare it to Sead Kolasinac: "Similar to Sead Kolasinac or recently Weston McKennie and Can Bozdogan, Kerim came to us in the U19 to take the next, perhaps decisive step towards professional football," says Norbert Elgert on the S04 homepage about Kerim Calhanoglu.

    The 18-year-old could now take the step. FC Schalke 04: Kerim Calhanoglu could compete with Bastian Oczipka The FC Schalke 04 are staffed on the stick, against Gladbach almost an entire team is missing. This also includes left-back Bastian Oczipka (31), who has almost no competition in his position in the S04 and always plays when he is fit. Hamza Mendyl (23) was only allowed to prove himself in the DFB Cup against Schweinfurt - and was replaced by the 31-year-old after a weak 63 minutes. Now Kerim Calhanoglu's chance at S04 could have come. Coach Manuel Baum (41) gave the Schalke fans at least some hope at the press conference before the Gladbach game: "Yes, we have three from the U23 and two from the U19 in training and these are players if they have passion, why shouldn't they play with the pros?

    " The 18-year-old, who initially gained a foothold in the youth department of TSG Hoffenheim, can play both as a left-back and in the left midfield. "Kerim is a talented boy with a lot of potential and a really good character," says U19 coach Norbert Elgert about the German U19 international. Kerim Calhanoglu (FC Schalke 04): His cousin Hakan plays for AC Milan The captain of the U19 FC Schalke 04 does not reveal so much about himself. Born in Mannheim, he currently has 4,000 followers on Instagram and mostly shows himself with football photos. The footballer gene, as the saying goes, may well run in his blood. Because his cousin Hakan Calhanoglu (26) has already drawn attention to himself in the football world in recent years. The 26-year-old has so far made 111 Bundesliga appearances for Hamburger SV and Bayer Leverkusen, and has currently played for AC Milan since July 2017. Its market value according to Transfermarkt.de: 30 million euros.

    At the age of 17 Hakan Calhanoglu made his professional debut in the second division in Karlsruhe. He played his first Bundesliga game at the age of 19 on August 11 with and against FC Schalke 04. The club with which his cousin Kerim could now celebrate his premiere in the top German division. With 18 years would be He is even a younger than the 52-time Turkish international.
    https://www.ruhr24.de/s04/schalke-0...iede-gladbach-s04-gelsenkirchen-90113404.html
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    what's fascinating about the Calhanoglu triplets is that all 3 seem headed for pro.

    Cousin
    94-Hakan plays for Turkey and currently AC Milan.

    Bros,
    02-Kerim LB already signed pro contract and Schalke and seems close to breakthrough and make 1BL debut.

    03-Turan, W/CF looks rated at Hoff and numerous clubs have wanted to poach him too.
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Congratulations on making your professional debut, Emrehan #Gedikli !At 17 years, 8 months and 1 day after Flo #Wirtz and Danny #DaCosta the third youngest #UEL -Player the #Werkself .




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  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    3/5 are recent debutants and 4/5 are current 1BL players. Top 10 all played 1BL too. 1st Bayer Academy CF since poor Yesil a decade ago.


    1-Florian Wirtz
    Attacking Midfield
    May 18, 2020 [​IMG] 1:4 [​IMG] 17 years 15 days
    2-Kai Havertz
    Attacking Midfield
    Oct 15, 2016 [​IMG] 2:1 [​IMG] 17 years 04 months 04 days
    3-Levin Öztunali
    Right Midfield
    Aug 10, 2013 [​IMG] 3:1 [​IMG] 17 years 04 months 26 days
    4-Danny da Costa
    Right-Back
    Dec 16, 2010 [​IMG] 1:1 [​IMG] 17 years 05 months 03 days
    5-Emrehan Gedikli
    Centre-Forward
    Nov 26, 2020 [​IMG] 4:1 [​IMG] 17 years 07 months 01 day
     
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  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    next up is Matanovic's turn for pro debuts, should happen this season too.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    99 CF Schuler training with Schalke 1st team and article on 99 CF Pieringer who's training with Freiburg 1st team. If they make 1BL debuts would be massive accomplishments.

    Also an update on 02 W/CF Kehrer making career progress who looked good for Freiburg U19 along with 01 W Weisshaupt and 01 CF/W Schade who are also 1st team prospects and train with 1st team. Those 3 made a deadly combo upfron last season!!! 02 W Bazdrigiannis is an ex Bayern player who has been dev well at Freiburg too. 02 CB Schmidt and 02 GK Atubulu also play II early this season.

    But seriously list of 02 AM/W players who have 1st team prospects is like double digits one. Wait and see how they progress but its' like hovering in 15+ mark if you also include 2BL clubs. 02 W Velasco at HSV looks like he's aiming for HSV 1st team breakthrough a quick dribbling player but who's lacking physically but skill set is there and also won award last season for best Hamburg Youth Player of the Year.

    anyways wouldn't mind if Pieringer ends up as Petersen 2.0.


    Seize the chances
    Marvin Pieringer is well on the way to gaining a foothold with the professionals at SC Freiburg.

    U-23 attacker Marvin Pieringer is currently storming so successfully that he has moved up to the professionals of SC Freiburg. While his teammates can currently only train due to the pandemic, the offensive player of the sports club reserve is about to take the next career step. You have to give them one thing at SC Freiburg: They have the gift of always keeping the emotional level at a manageable level. Neither in the relegation battle nor in the run for the European Cup places: you look in vain for excessive self-confidence or heartbreaking fatalism on the Schwarzwaldstraße.

    Seen in this way, Marvin Pieringer has settled in well with the Breisgauer in his two years. "I'm just glad that I'm getting this chance right now," says Marvin Pieringer late on Wednesday afternoon. Behind the young striker lies a day with two training units with the professionals. The body is done, Pieringer happy. The SC Freiburg II striker has scored twelve times in eleven regional league games. A month ago he scored four goals against TSV Steinbach-Haiger. No regional league player has used more frequently. 70 minutes in the friendly against Sandhausen The reward: In the past two weeks Pieringer has been training with the professionals. In the test match against Sandhausen he was on the field for 70 minutes. You don't have to be a prophet to predict that Pieringer's Bundesliga debut is imminent. Pieringer could sound more enthusiastic when he talks about it.

    But the 21-year-old from Wuerttemberg is not an overflowing conversation volcano. The offensive player impresses with his footballing deeds, not with set relay bursts with self-confidence. "He is a hard worker, so I'm particularly happy for him at the moment," says U-23 coach Christian Preusser. Pieringer's performance development resembles the dream of every career planner: After the attacker struggled in his first season, especially in front of goal, he came in better and better last season.

    Athletic, he made significant gains. Suddenly the long body of the 1.90 man, which was previously so inhibiting, became the trump card. "He uses his physicality very skilfully," says Preusser and adds: "Even with the professionals." And since all good things come in threes, his performance curve is currently pointing steeply upwards.

    In his third season, Pieringer has developed into one of the candidates for the reserve team who will be the first to be appointed for the first. But what distinguishes the current high-flyer, who got his footballing basics on the way with the former second division club SSV Reutlingen? For one thing, there is the obvious: he scores a lot of goals. "At the moment I feel safe in front of the goal," said the striker soberly. On the other hand, the kicker is characterized by facets for which you have to look a little deeper. "He is now able to hold and pass balls," says his coach. Pieringer not only meets himself, but also prepares.

    A bit like Nils Petersen, the scorer of the Bundesliga team of the SC, on whom the Reutlinger orientates himself very consciously. Two U-19 players now with the U 23 For coach Preusser, the development of his striker is a model. "This is the path we are striving for," says the 36-year-old soccer teacher. Discover talents early, promote them in the second team, train them tactically and technically, while at the same time giving them a lot of playing time. And then gradually develop towards the Bundesliga. "But without rushing anything.

    Development at Marvin is not finished yet." While Pieringer is now storming under Bundesliga coach Christian Streich, his colleagues are currently having to forego the competition. They are allowed to train as professional athletes, but the Regionalliga Süd has been inactive for three weeks. Whether it will continue as planned in December is currently in the stars. From the point of view of the SC reserve, the interruption came at an inopportune time. After playing eleven games, the Preusser team is top of the table. The U23 team shines particularly offensively. The team has already scored 34 goals. No other team comes even close to the sports club reserve in this category.

    But now she is condemned to exercise. "We take it positively," says Preusser and compares the situation with the preparation for the round. "Otherwise you never have that much time during the season for technical and individual things." And so the trainer drives the playful development. Sometimes breaks can also have something positive. In Emilio Kehrer and Alexander Bazdrigiannis, he pulled up two U-19 players. Pieringer's path should become a model for them and the rest of the "young and wild" members of the sports club.
    https://www.badische-zeitung.de/die-chancen-ergreifen--198148136.html
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -01 Ramusovic tested + for covid at Heidenheim.
    -98 CB Awoudja update at Stuttgart.
    "Awoudja has done his first test to return", the so-called return-to-activity function test, explained Pellegrino Matarazzo at the obligatory media talk before the game against FC Bayern. With a positive result: "Which means that he could start again with part training next week." In view of the now more than six months break and the severity of the injury (Achilles tendon rupture), it will probably take some time until Awoudja can fully participate or represent a game option again.

    -Some H96 updates
    1-bad news for Maina has his injury proness continues to haunt the W.
    Injury bad luck for Kenan Kocak: Once again the head coach of Hannover 96 will have to do without two important players in the upcoming game against Holstein Kiel. In addition to Timo Hübers, Linton Maina has now also caught it in training. Before the next second division game against Holstein Kiel, coach Kenan Kocak will have a tough time: In addition to Timo Hübers, which has been threatened for several days, Linton Maina is now also out. The native of Berlin injured himself on the outside ligament in training on Thursday. Kocak confirmed this after the training: "He is in pain."

    2-Good news for H96 II allowed to resume training and some talents from U17-U19 also join. Would like to know the full list of U17-U19 so that it would confirm who are seen as most promising Academy prospects aka 1st team prospects.

    "We are happy that we can slowly start up our training operations again," says Michael Tarnat. "In consultation and with the approval of the Hanover region, our U23s are training completely again." A so-called talent team is formed from U19 and U17, which is also allowed to join again. From these two teams, those players who play in the perspective or junior squad or already play as professional athletes are allowed to resume training.

    -Furth boss gives update on 98 LB Raum who's having breakout season.
    Raum's contract expires at the end of the season. How big is the hope of being able to keep the home grown?

    It's not just been an issue today, but for a year. That is why we are in talks and I have the hope that David will stay with us. This always includes two parties. As a player, it is legitimate to look around the market and want to advance. Preferably with us - that would be the best.
    https://www.kicker.de/azzouzi-im-de...cht-in-gleichen-toenen-von-uns-790713/artikel
     
  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yikes at mass out or potential out.
    Munich have to do without a number of regular players in the far north. In addition to long-term injuries Malik Tillman, Maxi Welzmüller, Lenny Borges (training) and Can Karatas, regular goalkeeper Ron-Thorben Hoffmann (elbow problems), Timo Kern (concussion and 5th yellow card) and Nicolas Kühn (thigh problems) are also out. With five goals, Kern is Bayern's top scorer this season. In addition, the use of Dajaku (groin problems) and Jamie Lawrence (nasal bone fracture) are questionable. There is also two good news for the end of the English week: Bright Arrey-Mbi is returning to the squad after his yellow-red suspension and Angelo Stiller is ready for action again.

    if no Kern, Kuhn and Tillman wonder if Scott starts. Also wonder if Sanyang or someone else from U19 makes squad. Are Sieb/Gunther still out?
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    A + article on 03 Netz.

    An algorithm is already predicting: Hertha's Luca Netz will soon be world class The GSN index gives footballers a value between zero and 100. A young Hertha professional is facing a golden future.

    Dustin Böttger loves beautiful football. When he talks about Hertha's 17-year-old exceptional talent Luca Netz, he really goes into raptures. “He has the capabilities of a world-class defender. A lot has to go wrong that it doesn't end up in the Champions League and the national team. "
    https://plus.tagesspiegel.de/sport/...uca-netz-wird-bald-weltklasse-sein-74417.html

    On 01 LB Katterbach, stats wise and potential wise, he looks like one of the better LB prospects in Europe along with Netz. A lot of people think Katterbach can't play to full potential in club like Koln and should eventually leave too. Katterbach has high dribbling rate for LB too, have seen numbers like 74% success rate last season with 31/42. This season with 5 games played with 2 XI at 100% succses with 6/6.

    One talent a day, Noah Katterbach: character and physique, the German future is here

    Noah Katterbach is an incredibly complete left-back, capable of jousting even a few meters ahead given his ability to accompany the action and create spaces for the insertions of his teammates. The classic all-out side, able to play without problems in the back four or in the midfield at five, thus covering the entire left lane. A natural left-handed who already has 5 Bundesliga appearances this season at the age of 19 and is captain of the German under-20 selection.

    Name: Noah Katterbach
    Date of birth: April 13, 2001
    Nationality: German
    Position: Left Defender
    Team: Cologne
    Looks Like: Philip Lahm
    https://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/ser...tere-e-fisico-il-futuro-tedesco-e-qui-1461808
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    here we go 03 CF Matanovic makes his pro bench debut for Pauli in 2BL.


    if he plays would be 7th teenage CF playing pro footy in 1BL (Austrian Bundesliga)-2BL just in 2020. And 7/7 are 16-18 years old too.
     
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  11. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Woah, how on earth this work? This is Michael Lewis's Moneyball on steroid. My best bet, some nerds developed an AI / ML code and sold it to those club scout and rake in shitload of money from aforementioned program, by showing fancy powerpoint.

    I'm not saying that Netz won't become Lahm but the Moneyball method for predicting future sounds outlandish even in this era
     
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  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah I don't necessarily buy into it, just fun to see these things. Believe with all the tech and vids since they do record all matches. That they likely have programs to project future potential. I'm not really into that prefer one focuses on now and hope players don't get wrecked with injuries.

    for Netz a lot of people think he's one of more promising LB in Europe even without any programs.
     
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  13. Collected

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    Jul 19, 2014
    https://www.kicker.de/sandro-wagner...-duemmste-was-du-machen-kannst-790429/artikel

    "An example from the DFB juniors: A 16-year-old changed the youth academy for a lot of money, but the new coach did not speak to him personally for four months because he supposedly had no time. If I hear something like that and someone was responsible there: Get him out. Seriously: It doesn't work, that's not how we should treat our talents. And we're talking about a top youth club. From what I've seen, this is not an isolated case in the training centers. Individual development must always be a priority in youth."
     
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  14. Blueberry_night

    Blueberry_night Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    This is typical AI thingy. Give projection and the disclaimer as well that the creator of the software can't be held accountable with whatever future result. Just like your day to day financial planner but in more sophisticated form. In any case, of course I am happy if Netz could become world class. Just saying...
     
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  15. Collected

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    Jul 19, 2014
    HSV fans seem certain that Vagnomann will be one of the best right-backs in the world in a few years. It's great that we don't have to worry about the fullback positions anymore. We will have Netz and Vagnomann terrorizing defences for years to come. This will exponentially increase our chances of winning the World Cup 2026. Having top quality full-backs is so important in the modern game.


    I am just joking obviously. Nothing is ever certain in football. People were predicting great things about Gian-Luca Itter and Passlack and look what happened to them. Promising full-backs usually let us down. Maybe it is a bit easier to predict the career trajectory of promising German midfielders( and maybe wingers) but it is a crapshoot for youth players in the other positions.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Vagnoman is still promising and had too bunch of injury issuses in past. A lot of clubs in Europe have wantde to poach him for years even this Summer but both him and club rejected. I recall he was LB but since can play both is being used at RB now.

    nothing happened to Passlack and Itter. Like still young players not sure why your writting out anybody. Halstenberg was a non factor until 25. Passlack is currently at Dortmund doing well, it's well documented why his excessive loaning didn't pan out a lot of factors out of his hand but when he had 1 good loan where he was actually XI all season it worked and is back. Itter is still young and Freiburg 2nd LB you think he'll bench their 1st LB who's captain and one of top performers?
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    BOOM lucky 7!!! 03 CF Matanovic makes 2BL/pro debut.




    not watching this one but here's a mention.
    Matanovic dribbles his way through the penalty area and takes another corner out. Probably the last action of the game.



    some stats,
    3 min+3 min in injury time.
    2 shots blocked, 6 touches, 3/3 passing aka 100%, 1/1 dribbling success, 50% dueling wins.

    these next gen CF all go after duals, can dribble and are good passers. All good to see.
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -Thioune HSV coach says that Terodde and 99 CF Wintzheimer are set.
    -article on Dortmund's 98-Furich who's on loan to 2BL. Getting a lot of praise for his qualities at Paderborn.
    https://www.westfalen-blatt.de/SCP/...ieb-geschafft-Ein-schneller-naechster-Schritt

    -Bochum coach says that 01 LB Romling isn't ready yet and that Bella-Kotchap who played full 90 vs 1st place HSV has fitness issues.
    https://www.waz.de/sport/lokalsport...ss-gegen-duesseldorf-umbauen-id231010478.html

    -Bild interview with 01 DM Krauss on loan from Leipzig to 2BL FCN. I mean Kuntz is more likely to call him up next U21 cycle for 00-onwards and not this one anyways.

    BILD: Your shape curve goes up steeply. What are you doing differently now? Krauss: “I'm still very young, it's only my first year as a man. But I can already tell that I'm getting more and more self-confident from game to game. I can feel that in the way I go into the duels now. At the beginning of the season everything was new to me, but now I'm getting better and better into this league. "

    BILD: And soon in the U21?
    Krauss: “There was still no contact with Stefan Kuntz, I'm still a U20 national player and captain there, which I'm very happy about. Sure, it would still be a dream to be able to travel to the U21 European Championship next year, but that's not an issue for me at the moment. When the call comes, I'm happy, if not, it's no drama either.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...m-krauss-im-bild-interview-74177718.bild.html

    -Dortmund U17 coach talks Moukoko, Knauff, U17 boys and also says that
    DFB.de: Basically, at an ambitious club like BVB, the leap to the professionals is particularly big. Do you still see other candidates in your team who can make it to the top?

    Geppert: We have great talents in all junior teams who can do it. U19 national player Ansgar Knauff was already at the top of the professional squad this season and has just signed his first licensed player contract. But it is only an example. We are all working hard to keep increasing the level of youth development.
    https://www.dfb.de/news/detail/bvb-trainer-geppert-siegertypen-ausbilden-222259/
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  20. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    In terms of fullback development, Germany is doing an okay job. Right now the NT options are RB) Klostermann, Baku, along with possible coverage by Kehrer and Henrichs. At LB there's Halstenberg, Gosens, Max, Schulz.

    Maybe in the future you can consider options like:

    Vagnoman, Passlack, Borges

    Mittelstädt, Raum, Czyborra, Katterbach, Netz

    Etc etc

    For the senior NT, the key is to always have around 5 quality options who can compete for these spots.
     
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  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    CF Pool
    98 Age Group
    Berisha (Austrian Bundesliga), J.Eggestein (Austrian Bundesliga on loan from 1BL), Serra (2BL), Nmecha (Belgium 1st division, on loan from EPL), Lauberbach (2BL), Amenyido (2BL), Daferner (3rd Liga at club who are promotion candidate), Ache (1BL), S.Tigges (RL but should move up come Summer)

    99 Age Group
    Wintzheimer (2BL),Y.Otto (2BL), Kruger (2BL), D.Otto (2BL on loan from 1BL), Roczen (3rd Liga), Nieland (RL), Steinkotter (RL), Pieringer (RL but training with 1BL), Musel (1BL but likely headed down), Topken (RL), Meissner (RL), Schuler (RL but training with 1BL), Caliskaner (2BL)

    00 Age Group
    Arp (3rd Liga--tied to 1BL), Malone (3rd Liga on loan from 1BL), Akono (RL), Besong (2BL), Herrmann (RL), Breunig (Austrian Bundesliga on loan from 2BL), Burkardt (1BL), Ngankam (1BL), Awuku (2BL), Batmaz (2BL), Bornemann (RL), Ihorst (2BL on loan from 1BL), Ulrich (RL on loan from 3rd Liga), L.Kruger (3rd Liga), Hermes (RL), Kehr (2BL), Hottmann (RL)

    01 Age Group
    Dinkci (RL but moving to 1BL/1st team at some point next year), Glatzel (seems close to EPL but always gets injured), Konigsdorffer (3rd Liga), S.Muller (1BL), Gudra (2BL), Schade (RL but trains regularly with 1st team), Makanda (1BL, BS pro contract) Jastremski (3rd Liga---tied to 1BL), Dursun (RL), Grimm (RL),
    Tattermusch (3rd Liga), Shalom (3rd Liga), Mollo (2BL)

    02 Age Group
    Borkowski (1BL), Beier (1BL), Adeyemi (Austrian Bundesliga), Woltemade (1BL), Asllani (tons of clubs wanted to poach and ended up at Hoff where he was scheduled for II only to get injured and not play, believe fit again), Hartwig (has been training with 2BL club since last season and plays in friendlies), Pakia (HSV rates but has been out all season), Hummel (having kick ass U19 season after years of injury, gets likened to Werner), Gollnack (trains 1st team in 3rd Liga and has made bench), Tekin (played RL this season), Winkler (played RL this season), Shuranov (training with 2BL), Jones (Swiss 2nd division), Harnafi (played RL this season), Gorny, Harres (has trained with 3rd Liga), Kramny (out all season), Kronemeyer (out all season), Spreitzer, Roscher (played RL+DFB Cup aka pro debut), Kuhinja, Strobl, Galjen, Sausen, Halbich, M.Muller

    03 Age Group
    Gedikli (1BL), Matanovic (2BL), Schmid (rated at Koln based on all reports and from people at club), Schmidt (rated), Rolke (rated), Wollschlager, Hettwer (3rd Liga), Barata (already played 1st team friendly with 1BL club last month), Arnold,Sohn, Sherbourne, Naderi, Reincke, Koppener, Hirschmann, Kroll, Windhagen

    04 Age Group
    Moukoko (1BL), Copado (impressive skill set and with some luck would already have scored 10+ goals, talked a lot about him but hard to predict any Bayern player. Also didn't list Kabadayi who can play CF since he's mostly LW), Kojic (rated at Schalke), Topp (rated at Bremen), Wagner (rated at Stuttgart), Hadziavdic (rated at Hertha), Sanogo (training with 1BL), J. Hoffmann, Labes, Busch, Nwachukwu (Dortmund U17 coach Geppert said that Nwachukwu doesn't realize his full potential yet and that the knot was finally loosened when he scored hat trick pre-corona. His goal vs Paderborn was also really good after a crazy Walz assist which was a overhead volley pitch perfect pass. How Walz did that who the beep knows, lol), S. Hoffmann

    -Not doing 05-onwards but 05 and 06 easily already have min 5-6 promising looking CF.
    -Daferner, Konigsdorffer, Gollnack,Harres, Naderi, J.Hoffmann are all Dynamo players a club who's 2BL promotion candidate too.
    -Ignored vast majority of poached CFs.
    -yes a lot of these can play CF/AM or CF/W, just means they are flexible nothing more.
    -I'm 100% sure from 01-onwards there more names than these but wait and see on career progress. Would say 03-04, incomple list. Some guys will start in random RL or OL clubs and climb from there. Others start in minnow U17 or U19 and get picked up by bigger clubs. I mean most people are unfamiliar with lower U19 or U17 level players.



    Now drum roll to how unimpressive the older age groups are.
    97-Teuchert (1BL), Arweiler (Eredivisie), Knoll (Croatian 1st division), lyoha (2BL), Reese (2BL), Wekesser (2BL but now playing LB, LMAO), Huth (3rd Liga), Eckert (still don't know how the ******** a La Liga CF ends up in 3rd Liga, its not his level), Tietz (3rd Liga but not his level there due to relegation), Owusu (2BL)
    96-Werner (EPL), Waldschmidt (Portuguese 1st), Seydel (2BL, wrecked by injuries), Platte (2BL, wrecked by injuries), Makridis (2BL), Becker (2BL),
    Kuhlwetter (2BL)
    95-Selke (1BL), Weydandt (2BL), Lohkemper (2BL), Kopke (2BL)
    94-Srbeny (2BL), Mamba (2BL), Ducksch (2BL), Holer (1BL), Schneider (2BL),
    Schimmer (2BL)

    -you go 90-97 and 1BL CFs per age groups, more 0-2.
    -It's like German dev from 90-97 just produced career 2BL and under players. Players only suited for more physical game with ton of holes in their games and lacking skillset to be more complete. Although will say that Mamba, Srbeny and Weydandt didn't look out of place in 1BL,in 2BL due to relegation. 1BL clubs wanted Mamba and Weydant but due to high price on Mamba and medical finding out he's injured nothing happened. And Weydant is in 2BL due to loyalty, had expiring contract and instead of leaving for free he extended with club who gave him pro career.
    -but reality really barely any 90-97 are even Senior NT prospects......barely.

    Conclusion
    Anyways, end of day, German cf futue looks bright more than its been for years. Recent turn of events getting so many playing 1st team and tons more who look promising too. Better overall skillset in players. Means a lot when clubs trust teenage CFs. Means things are going better, some past age groups players weren't trusted for pros until like post U19 and 20+ years old. Or players who only get chances due to mass injuries or like end of season useless games. But this is clubs playing or using players during season without injury problems. Even Konigsdorffer jumped to 1st team at Dynamo in 2BL last season when barely 18 and was XI in couple of 2BL matches. Now after 3rd Liga relegation, he starts every match and already one of their top performers.

    also tons of cfs don't make it for realz until 24-25ish,more snail like process. These players are only 16-22.

    They don't all need to make it but if thing go well.....than dfb will finally have something called CF depth, lol. We also need to replace the aging 1BL German CFs too.
     
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  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    English U23.
    99 GK Richter kept his 1st clean sheet for Burley. Still not sure what he hopes to do in England.

    3rd Liga
    -Morschel assisted Uerdingen's lone goal in 2-1 loss to Verl. While Taz scored in comeback his 2nd of season for Verl. Taz so far has been productive in both 3rd Liga-RL level.


    2BL
    -update on 00 CF/W Awuku.
    Noah Awuku (rehab after Achilles tendon rupture)
    -looks like 98 CB Ambrosius is closer to extending with 1st place HSV.
    https://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/...-stephan-ambrosius-spielen-74182142.bild.html
    -98 CF Amenyido is having best 2BL season of his career as he assited winner after dribbling into box and shoting with teammate scoring tap in winner.
    -Interesting seeing fans say that Matanovic in 6 min revived entire offensive alone. Saw highlights of his play so close to being hero too. Also still don't get why Lankford even starts for Pauli he's never shown anything in 2BL, played like 50 games that amounted to nothing. He's currently not 2BL nor RL quality should get 3rd Liga loan. Would rather Daschner or even Loubongo instead.
    -Mai on loan with clean sheet as Darmstadt trash EB 4-0. One good thing about this loan is that he's constantly playing vs physical players which should help him improve his game as 2BL is more physical than 1BL. Pfeiffer another cb with 8 min sub. Curious to see if Arslan will get chances, did well in limited 2BL time last season.

    Championshp
    LOL how Janelt became useless and bench player at Bochum in typical 2BL fashion and now excelling in Championship. If he continues wonder if he gets picked up by EPL or whether Brentford gets promotion as club moves to 4th place.

    scored today his 1st of season in 2-1 derby win.
    https://streamja.com/grVGJ







    Eredivisie
    Azhil on loan from Bayer picked up 20 min today in 2-0 win. Currently 300 min in all competiton for his 1st pro season. Can't remember last time Bayer loaned out anyone. But he really needs to be XI.

    1BL
    -LOL I don't like Kohfeldt playing Mbom as WB and some games in midfield choose one..... He's a midfielder, better some game time than none but not huge on it. Kohfeldt is weird he doesn't trust young players in their own positions so plays them elsewhere.Also Mbom needs to relax got subbed out in 1st half because he always picks up yellow cards due to his aggressive. But at same time he's most physical player on team, they do need him. They conceded 3 goals after he was subbed out. Also picked up his 5th yellow so suspended for next match, lol.

    Agu a LB/RB played his 2nd 1BL game today for 20 min. Woltemade also came on for like 5 min. And of course at Wolfsburg Siersleben continues to decorate bench.
    -Mainz GK 00 Liesegang currently injured.
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lmao, Janelt cost less than $500 000, continuing trend of German players selling for peanuts.
     
  24. Epitome990

    Epitome990 Member+

    Jun 27, 2013
    Club:
    SV Werder Bremen
    Nat'l Team:
    Austria
    Samardzic starts for Leipzig vs Bielefeld, while Thielmann starts for Köln vs Dortmund



     
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  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Cestic CB makes his 1BL/pro debut for Koln. While based on most lineups, Thielmann who can play all attacking positions is being played at CF vs Dortmund. Kind of a hard game to play CF. Nice to see Passlack in XI now over 400 min for season played. I consider him hitting 1000+ min this season to make it success for a comeback 1BL season.

    on another note, 01 CF Schade makes his pro bench debut for Freiburg.

    wonder if Kuntz tries to get Cestic and Thiaw for next U21 cycle. Cestic has played for Serbia but not provisionally capped and back in Feb, it was said dfb is interested in him.
     
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