Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The 17-year-old jewel scored a goal in the 21st minute and was one of the most noticeable players on the field against the overwhelmed Regionalliga opponent Eintracht Norderstedt.

    Peter Bosz therefore had a clear conclusion on Wirtz's performance. "For me he was the best on the pitch today," said the Dutch coach briefly at the press conference after the 7-0 win. Meanwhile, Bosz didn't want to say what that will mean for the new season in general.

    In any case, one can assume that Wirtz will play an even bigger role. The winger is developing very quickly and already has dribbling and finishing skills that few players in the Bundesliga have.
    https://www.90min.de/posts/bayer-04-leverkusen-bailey-kehrt-am-montag-zuruck-bosz-adelt-wirtz
     
  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol 5th place in all 1BL for dribbling for player who only played 7 1BL games for 365 min.

    sooooooooo had he played most of the season he likely would be in 1st place in the whole league too.

    reality is Wirtz only played 1BL due to corona delaying season. Only became eligible in May 3 when he turned 17 too.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Only covering Germany today, screw Europe.:p
    RL
    Meissner (1st), Beifus (02, 1st also had an assist in 3-0 win), Abifade (1st), Koulis (1st)

    interesting that Wolfsburg are really playing 2 02 CBs in II instead of U19 in Beifus and Lang, both XI today. Would be curious to see if either one has any 1st team chances or not. Siersleben has been with 1st team all preseason+EL return+Cup match.

    with Tisserand leaving it only leaves Wolfsburg with 4 cbs for 3 competition and Pongracic is currently injured too.


    DFB Cup, (overall I ignore squads from 3rd Liga and under to make it shorter).
    -2BL Darmstadt beats 3rd Liga Magdeburg 3-2 after 120 min ET.
    Darmstadt XI: Mai (on loan, assisted the winning goal!!!), Mehlem (scored 2nd), Manu (assisted the 2nd)
    Subs: Pfeiffer
    Unused: Arslan

    looks like Mai didn't have a great 1st half in Cup on loan but was much better in 2nd half+ET. Eventually he assisted the winning goal with this long ball that went by the entire defense. Mai to me is someone who needs to play next to a fast cb as well.
    https://streamja.com/WnQZL

    The loan will do him well too, higher level at more physical league in 2BL. Needs as much XIs as possible too.

    -3rd Liga Wehen beats 2BL Heidenheim, 1-0.
    Heidenheim XI: Schoppner (debut for the club)
    Unused: Rittmuller, K.Sessa, Burnic

    D.Otto was absent, I assume fitness issues.

    lol 97 CF Tietz scored the winning goal. As mentioned before his level is more 2BL sucks that Wehen got relegated and he spent most of last season injured. Also 00 CF Malone on loan made his pro debut as 15 min sub for this club. While 01-Hollerbach who joined this week was unused bench.

    -Freiburg beat 3rd Liga WM 2-1.
    XI: Keitel
    Sub: Boukhalfa (making pro debut)
    Unused: GL Itter

    Tempelmann who's been having fitness issues along with Schade/Weisshaupt etc were all playing II. On another note, #1 Dutch Flekken injured himself so come season opener we could see Thiede as bench GK.

    -Stuttgart beat 3rd Liga HR 1-0.
    XI: Massimo
    Unused: Mack and Aidonis

    and the last of the 4 youngsters who are very close to 1st team 02-Egloff is currently unfit. Although recall is out shouldn't be too long should be back in next few weeks. While the one who seems like 5th closest Kleinhansl is also injured......

    -2BL Padeborn beat some RL club 5-0.
    XI: Okoroji, Thalhammer and Ananou
    Subs:Schallenberg (debut for club), Fuhrich (on loan from Dortmund and scored the 5th and also his 1st pro goal).
    Unused: Tugbenyo (pro bench debut), Cordi (pro bench debut)

    -2BL St Pauli embarrassed themselves losing 4-2 to RL. Glad that most youngsters didn't play, lol.
    XI: Senger
    Subs: Wieckhoff, Daschner (debut for his new club)
    Unused: Flach, Viet, Zehir, Smarsch

    Becker is injured and believe Kuyucu is also unfit. While others look to have played II instead.

    -2BL Jahn beat 3rd Liga FCK 1-1 PK.
    Jahn XI: Gimber, Wekesser, Caliskaner (assisted on his pro debut)
    Subs: N.Wahling,
    Unused: Baack, Weidinger, Zempelin (pro bench debut), Herzig (pro bench debut)

    Wekesser and Gimber both scored in shootout.

    -2BL Kiel beat some OL club 7-1.
    XI: Lorenz (assist), Reese (goal and assist), Serra (goal and assist)
    Sub: Porath (scored), Lauberbach
    Unused: Neumann

    these young players were involved in 6/7 goals scored.

    -Hoffenheim beat RL club Chemnizter in PK after 2-2, LOL. And trend continues, S.Hoeness has issues when playing vs bottom clubs while at Bayern II.....
    Hoff XI: Geiger

    02-Beier only recently returned and with triple competition will get chances in attack. 02-John a 1st team prospect made his RL debut yesterday as well in XI. Hoeness is likely to slowly integrate young players too. There are bunch more interesting prospects too.

    02 CF Roscher made his pro debut today playing 41 min vs Hoffenheim. Good experience for him, also recently played RL debut too.
     
  4. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -01 Zorn from Frankfurt U19 joined Koln II, no longer free agent.
    -Seen mention that 01-Wolf who joined Stuttgart from Bayer U19 who will start in Stuttgart II that he has prospects to train with 1st team in future. Makes sense after all Stuttgart did confirm that he choose them despite other offers. As usual with too many Germans Wolf's main issue is likely physicality is behind.

    -Also saw mention that Schalke U19 coach Elgert and U17 coach Cinel are both high on 04 CF Kojic (was recently compared to Klose) but don't want to up him as it will create overhype around him if they did. The reason there is talk about upping him because he's

    1-the next big CF from Schalke Academy
    2-Last season he had like 10 goals and 11 assists in 21 games vs older players. This preseason he had like 13-14 goals/assists in like 6 games or something. Was absent this weekend from a preseaosn game due to coming back from dfb and there was supposedly a corona case.
    3-There are no CFs in Schalke U19, there is that Canadian Bruk who seems inefficient and not ready. Krasniqi can play CF but he's more of an AM/SS. Supposedly Can Aydin played all over the place last season including CF where it didn't really work out that well. All these transfers this Summer but no CFs, lol, seems like Schalke U19 will continue to play false 9 or inefficient players uptop. They can just promote the non CFs not that it matters. 02s the most likely 1st team candidates are Can Aydin (very flexible player) and Calhanoglu #2. More wait and see on the rest.
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -sofascore gave Mai best rating in today's game an 8.0 rating (tied with Obermaier). Seems like he had 2 Hummelesque long balls including 1 which was direct assist (winner) that led to goals in 3-2 win. Also has to work on some areas if he really wants to dev to next level. Let's hope he has a good loan season so that in 2021 he's playing 1BL anywhere.

    -meanwhile 01-OBM getting praised. May not have needed to function properly but being in sync should be easier once he regularly trains with his new teammates.

    For each other by the fire
    Oliver Batista Meier also showed, as the deepest midfielder, how well he can play football. It turned out that he and Bochniewicz did not need team automatisms and "cutting in patterns" in order to function properly. The acquisitions helped everyone else to play better football.
    https://www.lc.nl/sport/SC-Heerenve...html?harvest_referrer=https://www.google.com/
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Mainz update,
    They only got going when Beierlorzer replaced 17-year-old Paul Nebel after one hour for the weak Levin Öztunali, who had already convinced during the preparation. “Paul set off straight away. My heart opens up, ”Beierlorzer praised. Perhaps the coach's heart will soon be so wide open that Nebel can even play from the start. His short levers and clever passes are definitely helpful for the Mainz game.

    Goalkeeper Zentner also confirmed the difficult and tight decision of the head coach for him and against Florian Müller with his rescue acts. What happens now to Müller, the former U21 national goalkeeper who is disappointed? "Of course Flo would like to play the Bundesliga," reports Beierlorzer. The people of Mainz are also willing to give up the 22-year-old with a view to the tight cash situation due to Corona, but the Corona market is currently not giving much. Especially since Beierlorzer is certain that the current third goalkeeper Finn Dahmen, also 22, “will go to the Bundesliga. I commit myself to that ”.
    https://www.fr.de/sport/fsv-mainz-05/fsv-mainz-05-aaron-auf-abstellgleis-90042848.html

    kinda want to see how Burkardt and Nebel would play off each other....
     
  7. dips82

    dips82 Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Can someone call Lampard and ask him to sign Florian Muller? They won’t get a better one than him in current market...Chelsea needs the successor of Peter Cech and we need another Muller in our NT :)
     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    that wouldn't be a good move at all. Muller has had injury issues for past 2 seasons and some inconsistencies, still makes some mistakes. Would get destroyed by Chelsea fans and English press and nowhere near ready for such a club. He needs to find consistency 1st.

    the other Muller is an attacker at 1BL AB although seems like he has injury fitness and seems likely to be left out of tomorrow's cup match. Will be curious to see if he ends up with Winter loan or if he gets chances. Looks to have done well in preseason when given the chance.
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -More on F.Muller,
    In Mainz one expects a farewell to Florian Müller. It is to be expected that "efforts will be made to change clubs. He emphasized that he would like to play Bundesliga, which is understandable for such a great goalkeeper," said coach Achim Beierlorzer. He has already received inquiries. The Mainz team are counting on Robin Zentner as number one in the new season.
    https://www.kicker.de/keeper-mueller-bei-mainz-vor-dem-abschied-4000000035383/transfermeldung

    -97 Kratschmer joins 2BL FCN.


    -98 S.Rhein has no perspective at FCN but could end up in WK, both 2BL.
    https://www.liga-zwei.de/1-fc-nuernberg-simon-rhein-kann-gehen/

    -00 Yeboah going to Willem II in Eredivisie with buyback it seems.
    https://www.ligainsider.de/john-yeb...ll-willem-ii-john-yeboah-verpflichten-293133/

    -00 Philipp moves to Eredivise ADO for 2 year loan with purchasing option and buyback, wtf kind of bullshit is this anyways.


    ADO THE HAGUE RENT DAVID PHILIPP WITH PURCHASE OPTION FROM WERDER
    ADO Den Haag has provided the selection with an attacking impulse. David Philipp, who can play as an attacking midfielder and as a winger, comes over from Werder Bremen. The 20-year-old German is rented from the Bundesliga club for two seasons, with an option to buy. Werder Bremen has the right to buy it back with this construction.

    Philipp's career was born at HEBC, a club from his hometown Hamburg. At the age of 14, the fast winger was picked up by Werder Bremen. He quickly noticed that, partly thanks to his high goal average. That meant that Philipp was allowed to play for several youth teams in Germany. In his debut for Germany Under 18, he even scored twice. Last season, Philipp scored seven goals and four assists for Werder Bremen II in the Regionalliga Nord.

    Martin Jol (Head of Technical Heart): “As a club, we are very pleased to be able to further develop one of the most talented players in a club like Werder. It is a win-win situation for both clubs. David is young, talented and ambitious. He is an attacking player with scoring ability, who can handle multiple positions. ”

    Philipp has already been medically approved and will appear on the training field for the first time on Monday. “It feels good to join this club, which has a great tradition. I have been with Werder for a long time and am proud that ADO Den Haag gives me the opportunity to act on the stage of the Eredivisie. I look forward to seeing the fans ”, says the acquisition. “I am an all-round forward, who really loves football and always has an eye for goal. I want to create opportunities and be productive for the team. I especially want to distinguish myself in The Hague with my goal orientation and my pedaling technique. ”

    -98 GK Bangsow goes on loan to 3rd Liga VK.


    -00 Lungwitz returns to Bayern II on loan. What a waste of time move to Furth he did. I loathe 2BL and always making majority of their young players play 3rd Liga loans. Shows that he should never have left Bayern II. In 2021, Bayern might not need players at fullback there'll be Kehl (returning from loan), Waidner, Herold and Bruckner. Yilmaz is likely leaving in 2021.


    A few days before the first competitive game, the FC Bayern amateurs presented a new addition. This is an old friend: Alexander Lungwitz. The left-back only moved from FC Bayern Campus to second division club Spvgg Greuther Fürth in summer 2019. Bayern have now loaned him from there for the upcoming 2020/21 season.

    “Alexander has already played in the FC Bayern youth team for six years and took his first steps in men's football after moving to Greuther Fürth. With him we get a valuable alternative to the left full-back position, ”said campus director Jochen Sauer.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol, dfb who seem to loathe Eredivisie when more and more players are being loaned there or moving there.

    fact is no one wants to waste time in 3rd Liga-RL level. Eredivisie is good dev league and highly scouted and still 1st division and clubs themselves loan out players there. Players who do well there usually end up in higher level 1st divisions too. You can't say that for 2BL where most players it's 1BL and that's it for higher level upping.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    lol, WK loans out 00 CF Breunig to Austrian Bundesliga. Once again, 2BL is not a really nice place for young players always dumping them on loan. Or funny that some ex 2BL players have said Austrian Bundesliga>>>>2BL, LOL.



    FC FLYERALARM ADMIRA LENDS STRIKER MAXIMILIAN BREUNIG
    FC Flyeralarm Admira is loaning striker Maximilian Breunig from German second division promoted FC Würzburger Kickers until the end of the season.
    Last week, the 20-year-old prematurely extended his contract in Würzburg to 2023, which is a clear signal of the great trust that is being placed in the 1.93 m attacker.

    Due to a long period of injury (car accident in May 2019), the native of Würzburg was only able to play eleven games in the past promotion season, scoring three goals.

    “We are facing a long season with many encounters. Therefore the loan was absolutely necessary. Maxi is exactly the type of attacker we were still looking for. He makes our game more variable towards the front and is technically strong despite his size. In addition, a bank in the air - both offensively and defensively. In our conversations, I was impressed by his attitude, which suits us perfectly: A lot of heart and great passion, ”said Managing Director Sport Franz Wohlfahrt about Maximilian Breunig.

    The 20-year-old Breunig will train for the first time with his new teammates in the Südstadt on Monday and is looking forward to his new task:

    “I'm looking forward to getting to know the Bundesliga in Austria and playing against Champions League and Europa League participants there. I will give everything to prove myself at Admira and to play a successful season. And on Sunday the big Lower Austria derby against SKN St. Pölten is just around the corner, ”explains Breunig.
     
  12. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -According to reports 97-F.Muller is headed to Freiburg who lost their #1 Flekken to what looks like long term injury.

    -98 Justvan moves to 2BL Paderborn. Wonder if there is any buyback.


    Julian Justvan comes from VfL Wolfsburg
    A few days before the start of the 2020/2021 second division season, SCP07 has signed another new signing. The 22-year-old midfielder Julian Justvan comes from VfL Wolfsburg, where he trained with the Bundesliga squad at the end of the season, and has signed a two-year contract. At SCP07 he will be given the number 10. The two clubs have agreed not to disclose the terms of the transfer.

    The former U18 international (7 international matches, 1 goal) is at home in attacking midfield, but can also play on the right wing or as a center forward. He brings the experience of 81 regional league games with him to Pader, in which he scored 20 goals himself and put on another 19 hits. In the 2019/2020 season he continued his good record: In 21 championship games of the Regionalliga Nord, he scored seven times for the "Wolves" and prepared nine goals.
    "Julian is a talented player who can be used variably on the offensive and has great development potential. He is a creative midfielder with good dribbling, passing and finishing skills, which we want to refine. With us he can take the next step in his still have a young career ", said manager Sport Fabian Wohlgemuth welcomes the new player in Paderborn.

    -00 Yeboah joins Willem II in Eredivisie where he'll be in same team as Kohlert, Saglam and Kohn. Also club who will play ELQ too, Wolfsburg have buyback too. Not only that but he's already included in their Europe squad too.



    Wolfsburg has been a bad club for Academy players for years. May, Justvan, and Yeboah all leaving even with buyback they still left. Only ones left from older age groups are 98-Horn and 00-Siersleben. They also recently extended with 00-Marx too who they seem to like. Siersleben is only like 5th choice CB or something and Horn is getting more chances due to 1 LB being injured. Would he cement himself or lose his spot when everyone is fit?

    -00 Mbom is fit again.
     
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  13. Philanova

    Philanova Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Two of Bayern's youth teams competed in friendly matches on Sunday.



    The U17s beat Augsburg's B-Jugend 1-0 with a late goal scored by Eyüp Aydin.

    The U19s played against Union Berlin with a final score of 3-1. Nemanja Motika, Gabriel Vidovic (apparently a Croation dual national), and Grant-Leon Ranos all scored.
     
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  14. Philanova

    Philanova Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Good interview with interim FC Bayern II manager, Holger Seitz. Here are some excerpts that I found to be compelling re: young players (apologies if anything is lost in translation):

    What are the seasonal goals?
    “We want to develop every single player and establish ourselves in the third division. Our job is to provide Hansi Flick with top-trained young footballers and to continuously develop them. The third division is a wonderful opportunity for us coaches, but also for our talents. I would be happy if it would say somewhere after this season: The next top talents on the FC Bayern Campus have played minutes in the Bundesliga and were able to convince."

    How does the exchange with the professional department work?
    "Very good. I have been exchanging ideas with sports director Hasan Salihamidžić almost every day for a long time. I recently spoke a long time with our head coach Hansi Flick and personally congratulated him on the triple. I often talk to Hermann Gerland, who is known to have been on campus for many years and knows every talent with all of its strengths and weaknesses. Miroslav Klose, who was our U17 coach before, is also fully involved. We are extremely closely interlinked and our young players have great prerequisites to make the leap to the top. The boys themselves have to walk the stony path with all its obstacles. We accompany you with a lot of experience."

    What kind of football do the amateurs want to stand for?
    “For FC Bayern football. We recently had another trainer workshop to further refine our game idea. This is the dominant possession game with a lot of game control. In the coming season, too, we want to try to force our opponents to play our game with the upcoming talents - both with and against the ball. We want to stand for courageous and dynamic football with our “youngsters”. If you play courageous football and constantly act at your personal performance limit, you will also make mistakes. But that is not a problem for us, but an opportunity to improve."
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -On 00 Yeboah,
    John Yeboah is a cool player. Certainly not yet with the best decision-making and efficiency, but a bustling dribbler who likes to look for 1 versus 1. The Eredivisie should suit him better than the Bundesliga. Willem II is a great training association.


    honestly sometimes I feel more like ******** 1BL like seriously. If players go and make it elsewhere don't return to 1BL who didn't even gave you any chances outside of like 3-4 games. Someone with his skill set could play in non-1BL top 4 leagues too in future even if gets chance to return to 1BL.

    lol kicker confirms that Wolfsburg doesn't even rate RL, too low level to dev players. Is it shocking barely anyone makes the 1st team unless detours? There are barely any clubs in Germany that give a shit about RL these days. Sucks since Wolfsburg II almost made it to 3rd Liga for past 2 consecutive seasons.

    but the idea of integration is becoming a thing of the past. Way way too much loaning or bye with buyback in recent times.

    Do wonder with all their exits in terms of attackers this Summer if this means that Pohlmann, Herrmann etc are the next up attacker if injuries happen. Wolfsburg still have 3 competitions.

    -confirmation that 97-F.Muller has been loaned to Freiburg and also 98-Dahmen is now Mainz bench GK.
     
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  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so Dortmund will get a 4th British player a CM....


    this club has legit no interest in dev Germans anymore. Still think Moukoko and Collins are the only very likely players and everyone else is more wait and see.

    And with age down to 16 in 1BL expect more and more foreign players. It's a joke when this player ends up in U19 while Germans who were there for years and years are made to play U17 to last possible second.

    I think it's dangerous to fill the youth levels with foreign players. It's already getting harder to breakthrough 1BL but when you bench players in U17 or U19 you are dev even less players. How is it good when players DON'T dev in YOUTH levels?
     
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  17. Philanova

    Philanova Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany


    (Sorry for the Bayern overload from me, today!)

    FC Bayern II releases their team photo today. Torben Rhein among numerous exciting '99-'03 prospects. Really looking forward to a lot of opportunities for Rhein this season, as well as Tillman, Kühn, Lawrence, Mbi, Jastremski, and Brückner. A lot of talent available.
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #6393 Ger90, Sep 15, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2020
    You don't have to be sorry for anything. If they are youth players you can post as much as you want.

    I'm on, excluding 99-Fein (1st team).

    For me,
    High End (doesn't mean they will make it at Bayern).
    Hoffmann, Mbi (still U19 eligible), Lawrence (still U19 eligible), Bruckner (still U19 eligible), Stiller, Rhein (still U19 eligible), Arp, Tillman (still U19 eligible), Jastremski, Kuhn, Dajaku, *Musiala* (still U19 eligible, whether in end he plays for Germany or not, isn't 100% set but edge is to England.)

    Fruchtl, Mai, and OBM on loan would also fit here.

    Mid Tier
    Zaiser, Waidner, Lungwitz (on loan from 2BL Furth).

    Cuni (Today scored a hat trick on Hoffenheim II, Albania), Kehl and Jahn Herrmann on loan would also fit here.

    Low End
    Ontuzans (can't stay fit to save his life,it's why he's here Latvia), Karatas, Rochelt, Mihaljevic

    not sure where to place them, need to see more: Senkbeil and Stanisic, drift towards low.


    I hope players like Denk, Fust, Reneilt, Sieb, Sanyang, Herold, Gunther, Scott, Mosandl and Kabadayi at least have some appearances in II next season. Would think Sieb, Herold, Gunther and Scott have best chance for that.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    98-Dorsch scored on his 1BL debut in his one and only game for Bayern 1st team and now today scored on his CL debut in Qualifiers vs Rapid Wien.
    https://streamja.com/NNQQm

    they won tie 2-0 (no 2 legs) and Dorsch's goal was the winner. They will face off Dynamo Kiev in 2 leg playoff to qualify for GS. Loser goes to EL.

    either way I said this before, I hope Dorsch stays the LEAST possible in Belgium. Attract as much attention and then go to top 4 league. Playing in Europe could help whether CL or EL but especially if they manage to make CL GS.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    02 CF Borkowski is on list of top 40 Golden Boy nominees.


    In particular, the appointment of Borkowski is quite a surprise, especially since the attacker was not yet represented in the list of the best 80 young professionals published in mid-July. However, he is already ahead of some prominent talents such as Arsenal's Gabriel Martinelli (19) or Real Madrid's Takefusa Kubo (19; Villarreal) and Reinier (19; BVB) - all three are none compared to the top 80 Part more of the selected 40 players.
    https://www.transfermarkt.de/haalan...bdquo-golden-boy-ldquo-award/view/news/370649

    will RB Leipzig integrate him or what? Recent reports are that he has like half a year to convince and that he could maybe be loaned out later or.....NOT. Seems like Leipzig thinks he could be the 1st Academy player to breakthrough 1st team too.

    issue is Nagelsmann has never really been an integration coach. He devs already 1st team players more than newbs.
     
  21. Icke

    Icke Member

    Mar 15, 2009
    Kölle, Germany
    Club:
    FC Köln
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    This Golden Boy award always was and still is a bad joke. Borkowski? If you have Wirtz and Adeyemi? Well,nevermind
    Regarding the many young foreign players coming to german clubs (at least to the big german clubs): Dont like it either, but I understand it, business wise it is smart,british and french youngsters normally generate more money than germans. And german youth is not top level anymore (is it third,fourth or fifth position behind france,england,belgium,spain? What you guys think?) And I get the feeling that the national team is not as important anymore to the clubs (also the public in general). A lot of fresh air aka new people in DFB would be needed to change direction and mood regarding the national team which would,besides improved youth work, benefit young german players
     
  22. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Golden boy is a joke, still recall when Bennetts and Alberico were listed for 99. But I think your putting down Borkowski, 1st Leipzig Academy player in 1BL, praised by Nagelsmann, reports on club wanting him to be 1st Academy player to breakthrough 1st team too.

    Belgium? based on what? U21? where Kuntz stupidity of playing Janelt a non cb in cb cost us 2 goals out of 3. Then early red card and bad schedule cost us game 2. Also due to schedule like 9 players were left out. But of course dfb jumps on shitting on their players instead. Would they throw Kuntz under the bus, nope, just like Low wasn't.

    this whole nationality thing is dumb. One should judge players individually instead of obsessing over nationality and age grous. Every country has bad age grous. But 1BL obsessed over nationality 100%. France unlike Germany have better system to promote young players. Like all the French who come to Germany have Ligue 1 or 2 experience. France is lower level league wise than Germany too,. 2BL overall is not a great place since they mass dump to 3rd Liga loans. Not a youth friendly league. Nor is every Brit Sancho or Bellingham 2.0. Again Bellingham came with pro experience.

    its not just NT not as important anymore to the clubs, its domestic players. Even when these clubs have top talents (which they call them so). They do nothing with them and block their own players. Germany is now an International League, there is no value in German players sell. Domestic player protection is a joke too. It's one of the easiest leagues in Europe to get into. Clubs are buying in mass experienced players. Less and less clubs want to dev newbs when they want results.

    dfb is run by clowns who hire/promote losers and failures too.
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    just as 1BL is getting more foreign, ******** 1BL, we are seeing more and more players leave Germany. ******** EU and Globolization.

    one can still get top 4 league even without wasting years in 2BL-RL. Reality soooooo many 1BL clubs have no plan for their players but to waste years and years in RL. Its pathetic.

    Veh was reportedly sabotaging German players at Koln. Other clubs were doing same. I dont trust these clubs and one assumes that every coah wants to integrate when reality is far from truth.
     
  24. Collected

    Collected Member

    Jul 19, 2014
    I agree that Germany is behind France and England right now. However, we have two potential Ballon D'Or contenders in Adeyemi and Moukoko. Plus, Batista-Maier and Wirtz are very, very good as well. It's not all doom and gloom. Koeln's academy has done unbelievable work in recent years. Lemperle, Obuz, Wirtz, Bozdogan, Oezcan, Katterbach and Thielmann in the space of a few years is very impressive. The other German clubs need to copy whatever they are doing and German football will be fine.

    Tielemans is the only player of note that Belgium have produced in the last 4-5 years and he still does not play for a big club. Spain have also fallen behind for some unknown reason. Spain's youth work is not as scary as it used to be.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dfb and Kuntz are 100% POS and trash. Does anyone think its good that every single International Break, Kuntz shits on his on players? Its like STFU already you trash bin. That dfb over and over openly shits hard on their players in public and then you want clubs to play German? The amount of shitting they do makes one want to avoid German players, LMAO. Even if clubs arent high on Age groups its even worse when dfb shit 365 days on their players. These losers need to learn that shitting should be behind closed doors. And Kuntz has been doing this since Summer 2019.
     

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