Auf geht's, Jungs: German Youth Discussion Thread Vol. V

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by Epitome990, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Another one from same youtuber, this time 03-Sieb.
     
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  2. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    concerning 02 W Lemperle, have to say it's interesting, how I keep seeing from Jan 2020 aka Winter Camp-present, where he also scored on his 1st team debut and impressed there that people who keep saying he's good in 1v1 and is fast just like Koln press release, but.................he's way way too playful, lol.

    sounds to me like he has the typical dribbler problem. Needs to learn
    -when to not overdribble
    -when is right time to pass
    -when is right time to shoot yourself

    and how he could become a good 1BL player if he works on these things.
     
  3. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Lemperle is very confident with his one versus one and finishing

    definitely a good talent , my concern is not his football iq (all young players have similar issue anyway) . He is kinda moody n inconsistent.

    Paul Nebel is another winger who is very good imo , even he is very small in size. Composed, creative, has a good left foot and is a leader

    I think 2002 lack some good defenders. Marton Dardai is already the best but he is not even a very good talent imo, and we have no right back so we have to play Mehmet-Can Aydin there.

    LB Kerim Calhanoglu is decent , hope he can make it. Kerim also plays at LEft winger too. If he’s primarily seen as LB... that makes the defence even more vulnerable
    LW,

    Jonas Dirkner is ok... not too much competition at DM and it’s not difficult to be the tallest among dwarfs. Pretty much similar to the CB situation

    Tillman and Sterner/John might make the CM pair. Still not too impressive imo

    At wing, Lemperle/Nebel/Obuz/Thielmann/Schroers and even Adeyemi can play there. All good talents

    AM Samardzic is the best talent in 2002

    CF we have Woltemade, Adeyemi, Beier, Asllani . Pretty much all set. Beifus and Tillman can be used as CF too


    Problem with 2002 is that we are so weak in defence. Best player is LB Kerim Calhanoglu who is primarily played at LM; midfield isn’t too good either, best midfielder is a CF in Bayern U19.

    good attackers in Samardzic, Adeyemi, Woltemade, Lemperle,,Nebel and co. But I have some serious concerns regarding the midfield

    midfield win u games, not defence. Retaining Possession And high pressing up front is the trend of defending now. Keeping possession, keep pressing and opponents always lose the ball is the best form of defence
     
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  4. Karl-Heinz Riedle

    Aug 27, 2009
    Dublin, Ireland
    Club:
    Cork City
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    —————-Schreiber
    —XX——Dardai—Otto—-Calhanoglu
    ————Dirkner—-Tillman
    —Lemperle—-Samardzic——Nebel
    —————-—Adeyemi

    very Poor defence imo
     
  5. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    there are RBs for 02.
    DFB U17 called up Rosenboom and played Can Aydin there

    DFB U18 when we called up complete newbs this season we called up
    Wolfsburg's da Silva and I recall it was said by someone that Union's Veith who seems to be doing well was called up but retracted due to fitness.

    so seems like we are trying some RBs. Koln's Sponsel could likely have been called up to the U18 newb squad but he was injured and only made comeback in Feb 2020.

    Can Aydin playing RB aka lol, flexible player but he's an attacker.

    all I see is the real issue with age group separation, they all have their strength and weakness. Like 01 seems to have the defense but not the CF and 02 has the CF but not the defense, lol.
     
  6. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    "Marton Dardai is already the best but he is not even a very good talent imo,"

    I think is more like Dardai is better at club level than dfb, not the 1st nor last where this is true. He's doing a lot better for Hertha whereas dfb he was a disaster/unstable in a bunch of games.
     
  7. Philanova

    Philanova Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 12, 2010
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bayern U19 player Jamal Musiala trained with the first team today.

     
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  8. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    he's a German who doesn't want to play for dfb. Got called up a bunch of times only for his name to retracted and for him to go play for England. His friends are Brits so he wants to play there. He's not provisionally capped by England but wouldn't be surprised if he were in future. Kid was even honored to play Captain for England against Germany.:rolleyes:

    a good example of why I don't mind players who are immigrants who WANT to play for dfb. Or when someone like Glatzel (2 German parents) but born, fully dev in England wants to play for dfb. To be fair to Glatzel, he does visit Germany frequently to visit family and does speak the language too.

    more funny is how all the media were like Bayern poached 2 Brits from Chelsea......more like 2 Germans returned home to Germany and both started club football in Germany. I recall Musiala stated in interview that he still had a lot of fondness of his time when he was playing at TSV Lehnerz (Mbi still has friends and fondness from his time at SG Kaarst) and Brexit and family reasons played a role in him going back to Germany.

    of course, he hasn't made his 1st move.
    -1st move get provisionally capped tied by someone.
    -as a triple national he's German-Nigerian and English, he has to make a final choice aka permanent cap tie or switch.

    have to say players like Musiala are not the type of players I want to play for Germany. Who wants players who has you as 2nd choice???

    I doubt he plays any games for Bayern 1st team this season. He hasn't done enough in U19 and physically he has a long long way to go. He's one of those African descent (German mom and Nigerian father)who's not there at all physically. Wonder if when he signed his contract if they promised him early 1st team training?

    you can still bring him up in here because he's not provisionally capped tied. Once he's provisionally capped tied, he goes to the dual/triple thread and would only comeback in here if dfb were to "poach" him. I mean Voloder and Asllani are provisionally capped by other fas but we bring them up in here because dfb calls them up.
     
  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    you know what's interesting is how the 2 clubs in 1BL that give out BS pro contracts with no real integration are also the same ones who half-ass their press release. Every club, when players signs up, you got people at the club commenting on the contract and the player as well. But Frankfurt and Leipzig no one says shit. Player X signed until 202X and that's it, lol.

    not only that but their pages about the extensions aren't even pictures of the players signing but of them while they were playing during the season. It's even worse that they put the triple announcements on the same page as "Personal news" like lol they grouped them with everything else, bury it so that a lot of people won't notice, LMAO.

    Borkowski posted pic of him signing.
    Ink dry!
    I am overjoyed to have signed my first professional contract. Thanks to everyone who supported and accompanied me on this path! @dierotenbullen # 2023 # db41
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CAfrhaCH44n/

    naw you should be overjoyed once your integrated into the 1st team and not for signing anything at that club.

    clubs need 12 German signed and Leipzig has given out 6 pro contracts to 2 different age groups. That's half, lol, soon enough they'll give out like 12 pro contracts to youngsters and just play foreign players. Let's hope that some of these succeed on their loans or get lucky and get integrated by Nagelsmann and that 05-Raebiger and 05-Bigatom and whoever else they like from 03-onwards get chances.
     
  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    05-Raebiger did a Nike commercial 2 years ago.
     
  11. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    dang Wolfsburg II got robbed...


    RL Nord
    1-Lubeck 25 games played 61 pts
    2-Wolfsburg II, 24 games played and 56 pts.

    Season has 34 games to play in total. Kind of BS since it's really close and Wolfsburg had a game in hand too.

    Last year, Wolfsburg II got beat in a comeback win for Bayern II in promotion playoff and this season, they got robbed by corona axing season.

    sucks since all Wolfsburg II players (ones who stay) and U19 players could have benefited from 3rd Liga. Gap from 3rd Liga to 1BL would have been smaller.
     
  12. Blueberry_night

    Apr 5, 2016
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    What's the benefit of Nike doing this kind of commercial? Apart from handful of German NT youth fanatic and his junior club, no one knows about this kid. Those who know him wouldn't just the commercial cost for the advertisement.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -Hertha Berlin vs Union Berlin.

    Hertha squad includes Torunarigha, Mittelstadt, Smarsch, Maier, P.Dardai, Ngankam, Samardzic.

    with 5 subs allowed, we are very likely to see some play.

    Union: Only Nicolas, K.Schlotterbeck is suspended. Does suck that all youth eligible players are unfit/injured. Union coach likes Kade but he has fitness issues, then Dehl also fitness problems too, same goes to Opfermann, like the 3 other options are all unfit. Maciejewski is more likely to be used end of season than during season. Oppermann is 4th GK so won't be used.

    -Another day another Kruger assist, since corona comeback,1 goal and 2 assists in 2 games in 2BL. Will be curious to see how long he stays at Aue.......Schalke has the edge over any club due to buyback clause.
    https://streamja.com/vV6kq
     
  14. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think this is likely a Germany only ad. I mean if you want to advertise to kids you get a kid player to do the ad, it makes sense if you think about it.

    whether you believe reports or not, this kid is said to be attracting interest all over Europe due to impressing in International tourneys.

    An RB Leipzig fanatic, said this about him.
    "Make sure to follow Sidney Raebiger the coming years. Looks to be the first proper star to come out of Leipzig's academy. Creativity, freekicks, dribbling, pace, technique. Players like him don't come by often."

    and this fanatic said this before (emphasis on before) all the media reports about all the big clubs in Europe being interested in him.

    I've seen some of his play and the way he describes isn't wrong. Seems to have smooth dribbling and just dances around 2-3 players.

    pre-Corona he was a starter for RB Leipzig U17, playing 2 years up his age group. So career wise he is making progress.
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -well one thing is for sure we do seem to be dev more and more difference makers and more and more dribblers too. Even positions like fullbacks and cbs there are dribblers and so to in midfield as well. Could be interesting if you play an XI that can all dribble, lol.

    -Knoll got robbed...............
    https://streamja.com/dmJVn

    -since Leipzig is too lazy to have players commenting. 01-Hartmann about his extension. Well these kids seem to believe in Leipzig's planning otherwise they wouldn't extend and sign pro contracts. "Moretocome", we shall see..............

    Happy to sign a new contract with @dierotenbullen #FH35 #2023 #thankful #moretocome
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CAf5SqKIl77/
     
  16. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    glad to see 00-K.Sessa playing more and more at Heidenheim has come off the bench in last 2 consecutive games. Shows the issue with a lot of youngsters on bench they are basically sub #4 or #5. So in normal season with only 3 subs=unused bench but with 5 they are used. Sessa has played like 16-18 min over last 2 matchdays. And was unused in every previous game of the season, no joke.

    maybe they should make it permanent 5 subs.......:whistling:
     
  17. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    On another note, I think reality is that no one knows anything about German talents. Like seriously all those people who follow youth players and post about players around Europe+South America, guess what Germans are mostly ignored lot. And that's where its more tricky, German players bar Moukoko are all low profile players in the grand scheme of things.

    made me lol when I saw one of these people talking about they will follow this long ass list of players "under the radar" from different countries and 0 names were new for anyone in here when it came to Germans. Feels like there is less access to games and chatter about players is what leads to lack of exposure.

    I recall watching some journalists that mentioned why is it that Havertz is barely ever talked about. All of them think Havertz at only 20 can play in any big club in Europe and that he's being weighed down at Bayer but even then he gets a ton less press. It's the same for our older players over last decades, not a lot of mention throughout the years.
     
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  18. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    looks like whoever posted about it being 99-P.Dardai made a mistake it's 02-M.Dardai. Mixed up the 2 bros.

    Our #BSCU19 -Defender Marton #Dardai stands by today #BSCFCU for the first time in the blue and white professional squad! Congratulations, Marton!


    and as mentioned before, 02-Dardai does seem better for club than country. I wouldn't judge him if he gets better over years and could still translate that over to dfb. He also seems to have been preferred over 01-Rekik (Dutch) to the 1st team. Both were training with 1st team.
     
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  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Bruno Labbadia destroying teams and playing youngsters, 4-0 win in derby and 7-0 aggregate post corona and he was hired during corona like in April 2020.

    another great game and clean sheet by Torunarigha. Mittelstadt and Maier also did well in the game. While Smarsch, Ngankam and M.Dardai were unused bench.

    but the real news is 02-Samardzic with a pro debut.


    pretty good pro/1BL debut I have to say, another one who shows potential at this level while being this young. Samardzic was deployed at AM but also was active in midfield too. Physically he didn't look out of place, he didn't make any misspasses, dribbled by a player successfully, saw him winning a header in midfield, he was never the fastest player around even in youth but have to say his pressing had merit, saw him essentially steal the ball/cause error from Union twice. He had a fantastic cross into the box that had potential for a goal but the GK got there first. Would say he recommended himself for more game time.
     
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  20. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    according to reports EPL interested in 01-Kurt.

    Premier League Interest: Is Gladbach's Top Talent Losing Kurt?
    Kaan Kurt is one of the emerging talents in Borussia Mönchengladbach's foal stable. The 18-year-old right-back is currently training with the professional team under the direction of trainer Marco Rose. Now the youngster could do the same as his namesake Sinan Kurt (with whom he is not related) and leave the current third in the table early.

    Two prospects for Kurt from the Premier League
    As the English tabloid “The Sun” reports, two Premier League clubs have reached out to Kaan Kurt. Accordingly, the London clubs Chelsea and Arsenal should be interested in getting the German-Turkish out of his contract with Borussia, which runs until 2022.

    According to the report, the transfer fee is just under four million pounds (approx.4.7 million euros). With Fenerbahce Istanbul, the British newspaper names another candidate in the bid for young talent, who can defend not only his usual right side but also the left.

    Borussia holds out professional debut
    Those responsible at Borussia Mönchengladbach also know that Kaan Kurt is an exciting man for the future. Last but not least, manager Max Eberl promised his youth players that they would play in the Bundesliga before the game against Eintracht Frankfurt. "If necessary, you could even be on the pitch and maybe become the newcomer that football creates in such situations," said Gladbach's sports director.

    Kurt has already played 13 games for the second team in the regional league this season. The Moerser, who was born in Germany, was also on the defensive outside track in the German U19 national team. He could follow in the footsteps of Tony Jantschke, Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Co. and become the next home grown man who wears the Fohlenelf's jersey in the Bundesliga.

    It remains to be seen whether Kurt would like to take the path to becoming a professional on the Lower Rhine. What is certain, however, is that the talent should be able to put a considerable sum in Borussia's cash register in the event of a change. Because despite a market value, which according to "Transfermarkt.de" is only 200,000 euros, a potential buyer would have to dig deep into his pocket. And for a hitherto unknown talent, without a single professional assignment.

    https://www.fussballeck.com/bundesl...ier-league-verliert-gladbach-top-talent-kurt/

    I wouldn't be surprised if clubs do want to poach him and Gladbach need to integrate otherwise why stay? I prefer he brokethrough Gladbach 1st team than go anywhere and especially don't go to Turkish clubs. I recall he was excellent whenever he played friendly for 1st team and got tons of praise. And he was always one of the players that Rose and company mentioned when talking about Gladbach youth.

    and LMAO at all TM transfer values for German kids you would think they all cost peanuts.
     
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  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    -I don't do player comparisons but others are free to do as they like, 03 Dutch CF Noah Ohio called his teammate 05-Raebiger, "Luka Modric".

    -OBM's neverending quest to make his 1BL debut, still unused. Made the 1st team bench 7 times this season with 0 use. Who the frick cares about Cuisance, very overrated player and Flick keeps subbing him in and he's not a newb too, has over 40 pro games. I think the worst part is that today was 3rd time that OBM was unused and Bayern had a huge huge lead on other team......Nothing will change though OBM and company, mass injuries and irrelevant games at the end of season are likely only chance.

    Now for the low profile players. More fun to discuss these guys than the rated players.:D

    -98 May, 98-Justvan, 98-Horn keep making Wolfsburg bench but unused. Now those are all players better than RL. They really need to move upwards to whatever level. 98-Stach is moving to 2BL Furth in Summer for one. A LOT of players who are 98 have shown themselves to be better than RL, they all need to move up in Summer even if it's only 3rd Liga bump.

    And I'm sure that clubs will be interested to poach this Wolfsburg II group, they weren't 3rd Liga promotion candidates for 2 consecutive seasons for nothing.And bunch of others like 00-Siersleben (Glasner likes him), 99-Moker, 99-Heuer could easily attract attention. 00-Herrmann seems like he could leave.

    door to 1BL is never close, even if you make there 24+.

    99-D.Itter and 00-Marx could be forced to stay another season in II due to spending huge amount of season injured. When fit they seemed to start.

    Wolfsburg 01 GK Kasten seems to have done really well in RL this season. Established himself at #1 while still being U19 eligible and basically overtook every other GK including 98-Menzel. Made 1st team bench a couple of times as well.

    not German but Marmousch (Egyptian) is being linked to 2BL move while that Frenchie Karamoko is said to be headed to Austrian Bundesliga. So interest is there.....

    -01 Thamke of Cottbus U19 moving to RL club. I mean the Cottbus 1st team is RL anyways, so makes 0 difference.
     
  22. dips82

    dips82 Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Is Adrian Fein a top talent who could breakthrough into Bayern’s first XI?
     
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  23. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    it depends on where he goes next season. Every official word, states that he's with Bayern 1st team in Summer. It's all but confirmed he's playing 1BL next season whether Bayern 1st team or a 1BL loan.

    as for Bayern XI, for now I think he might be more of a Martinez replacement in the squad. He could get chances in XI because he adds something that Bayern lacks with Thiago and Kimmich. Fein is taller/bigger player than those 2 and some people compare him to Schweinsteiger. He's improved his game over past 2 seasons during his 2 2BL loans.

    for now Fein does seem like the closest German youngster to Bayern 1st team, even if he's not at Munich currently like the rest.
     
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  24. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yesterday, 98-Amenyido scored once and picked up an assist in a 4-2 loss. Its his 2nd of the season in 2BL and 3rd of the season in all competition, he scored vs RB Leipzig in dfb Cup. He plays a lot of games on the wings too.

    today, 97-lyoha scored his 7th of the season vs Stuttgart. Said it in past if 1 97 CF has shot at 1BL early it's lyoha even if it's bench option. Still has time for double digits too.
    https://streamja.com/LMOe1

    believe for 97 CFs all the relevant ones have scored this season. Even Arweiler scored in Eredivisie as well.

    then 98-Lauberbach scored his 1st of the season and 1st in 2BL for the 3-2 winner over Stuttgart!!! Sure it's a tap in but winning goal tap in.
    https://streamja.com/dmJqk

    Dehm also scored the 2nd off a Lauberbach shot on goal too.

    LOL, before today, Nmecha and Lauberbach were the only 98-99 CFs who play in 1st or 2nd division not to score once this season. Now Nmecha is the only one not to score this season. Difference is that Lauberbach only started 1 game all season rest is all sub. Nmecha is just unproductive at this point in time.
     
  25. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    when it comes to youth, I'm selfish I hope Stuttgart doesn't get promotion.

    Everything I've read or saw about Stuttgart is that there would be more 1st team chances if they are in 2BL than 1BL.
     

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