Attendances 2023

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did. Thanks for splitting them out.
     
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  2. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Final tally of the weekend:

    Los Angeles FC (vs. Real Salt Lake) 22,221

    Total Attendance this week: 342,742
    Average (16 games): 21,421
     
  3. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Again for comparison purposes;

    Liga MX Week 11
    62,707 America-UNAM (77%)
    27,273 Toluca-Guadalajara (100%)
    21,180 Atletico SL-Cruz Azul (82%)
    17,333 Tijuana-FC Juarez (66%)
    16,390 Atlas-Puebla (30%)
    13,503 Mazatlán FC-Tigres (67%)
    11,179 Queretaro-Leon (33%)
    8,193 Pachuca-Necaxa (32%)
    Monterrey v Santos wasn't played this week.
     
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  4. midfielder467

    midfielder467 Member

    Jul 20, 2014
    Club:
    Central Coast Mariners
    Does anyone have the number of midweek games played over the season.
     
  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If my calculations are correct, with last week's tally + the NYC game at RBA gives us:

    Total Attendance: 9,794,430
    Total Matches: 448
    Average (Mean) Attendance: 21,863

    Matches Remaining: 45
    Season Attendance Target for 22k average: 10,846,000
    Remaining Attendance for 22k: 1,051,570
    Remaining Average needed: 23,368

    Remaining weekday: 13 (12 today)
    Remaining Fri/Sat/Sun: 32

    5 of the top 5 in attendance host today (Clt, Sea, Nash, Cincy, NE) with Chicago hosting Messi in Soldier Field.

    Vancouver & MTL the likely lows.
     
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  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    IDK what other league are averaging this "year", byt for the last completed season:

    Soccer only:
    1. Bundesliga (GER): 42,966
    2. EPL (ENG): 40,301
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    3. La Liga (Spain): 26,886
    4. Serie A (ITA): 25,237
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    5. Super League (China): 23,234
    6. Ligue 1 (FRA): 22,799
    7. Liga MX (MEX): 22,787
    8. Campeonato (BRA): 22,432
    9. Bundesliga2 (GER): 22,224
    10. MLS (USA/CAN): 21,311
    11. J League (JAP): 20,750
    12. Liga (Arg): 19,839

    If some of the other leagues dip a little this year, 22k+ could be good for 6th.
     
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  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Premier League will likely take a dip this year. The 3 relegated teams from last year all had stadiums in the 32-37k capacity range while this year they added Luton Town (11.5k), Burnley (21.7k), and Sheffield United (32k). It won't really hurt the overall number, but pro/rel can do that to a league if the unexpected teams make it through.

    Similar situation in the Bundesliga with 62k and 77k being replaced by 15k and 18k.
     
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  8. NFLPatriot

    NFLPatriot Member+

    Jun 25, 2002
    Foxboro, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NE had almost 38K last Saturday. They will be lucky to get half of that tonight (had 16K on the last Wednesday night game). It's tough for most fans to get to Foxboro on a work day.
     
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  9. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    If you told us that we're sad about 16k at Foxboro on a Wednesday night I'd be very excited about the improvement lol
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1310 Paul Berry, Oct 4, 2023
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2023
    Tickets for Notts County v Wrexham went on sale today. No general sale, just members. The home sections almost sold out by the end of the day. Official capacity is just over 17,000 for safety reasons even though there are 20,000 seats.

    This is fourth division football that averaged around 5,000 in the first two decades of this Millennium. I think the Wrexham documentary has really helped.
     
  11. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    You think? Lol
     
  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Notts County is also a pretty big club for League 2.
     
  13. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any word on Messi and tickets sipd for Solfier Field? Heard the Fire were giving a $250/$50 credit to single game ticket buyers to use on 2024 ST if they buy tonight.
     
  14. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The credit is for anyone that bought a ticket for tonight in response to rumors that Messi might not play. Game was announced as a full stadium (~61,500) sellout the other day.
     
  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're the third biggest club in the UKs 9th biggest metro area. Last season we had our first sellout since Manchester United in 1992. The transition over the last 5 years has been astounding. It has a lot to do with owners who are more interested in football than their own egos.
     
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  16. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Football seems to be popular in the UK lol
     
  17. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You have a 20k seat stadium. A lot of clubs at that level do not. Not to mention Conference.

    Recent struggles aside.
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As I said, it was built for the Premier League, which we were a member of until it actually kicked off. Our average attendance in the intervening 30 years has been less than 6,000. We're a medium sized club at best.
     
  19. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I'll be beating a dead horse but wouldn't it be more beneficial for MLS to have those 2 teams move (sell them) to cities in US? Look at Nashville, Cincinnati, St. Louis. "Small markets" seem to do better with attendance.
     
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  20. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Decent attendances from Chicago, Charlotte, and Cincinnati. May be some time to get the full results though. Philadelphia and Austin have yet to turn in their numbers for the night.

    Is the honeymoon over for Josh Wolff and Austin? I thought the team had sold out every game this season, but there were a ton of empty seats at Q2 Stadium tonight.
     
  21. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If 62k, 30k, and 25k are "decent?" More that that, I'd say. 30k in Seattle.
     
  22. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Announced crowd of 62,124 in Chicago tonight. Definitely some large chunks of seats that remained empty for the entire match due to Messi’s absence, but my eyes would call the stadium about 3/4 full or more. By far the largest crowd in club history and easy to see for a long time fan like myself.
     
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  23. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You equate the size of the club with the current attendance.

    You have the third largest stadium in league 2. You have been in the top tier. You have sucked lately (Conference), and attendance has been down. But your ceiling is Top 3 in League Two (MK Dons, Bradford City). The attendance will go up after getting promoted. And you are doing well this year. Top. Fans are rightfully excited. Could be a short stay in League Two after a 100 point season last year.

    In the grand scheme of things Notts isn't a big club, but for League Two? Yep.
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CHI 62,124
    SEA 30,495
    CLT 30,080
    CIN 25,513
    NSH 25,273
    LAFC 22,041
    ATX 20,738
    NER 14,144
    VAN 13,776
    MTL 13,509
    PHI ?
    DAL PPD
    Average of reported games 25,769
    Blame Canada!
     
  25. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No. Look at Columbus. The Queso boy said that Columbus didn't have the "business metrics", and his incompetence torpedoed the franchise. Now CLB Is a vibrant MLS city with a recent championship. (I still hate the logo and their name shennanigans).


    MTL and VAN are good markets. Owners have to get up from their rears.
     
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