Asian World Cup qualification

Discussion in 'Saudi Arabia' started by Fa1con, Jul 1, 2021.

  1. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    Japan is the only complete team in our group, the rest shouldn't be underestimated either. All in all, a great preparation for the WC.

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  2. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Saudi Arabia should eye to take maximum 3 points in all home games (specially against Japan), while take maximum 15 points in first 5 matches.

    Even a point against Japan will be a bonus
     
  3. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Vietnam is no pushover while taking maximum 3 points in all home games (specially against Japan) should be the main target.

    Maximum 3 points for game against Oman in Muscat should be the main target as well.
     
  4. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
  5. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Looking at the schedule, KSA's first four games are crucial as 3 are at home and one away with Oman.

    Gathering maximum points from these games will set up the tone in the group and they can ease themselves up in the away games.

    Looking at the current form and players, things look positive for NT but what is worrying is the upcoming Arab Cup which will be held in December.

    As most of the NT players are made of the big 4/5 clubs in KSA, the players will be representing clubs in the league, ACL, WCQ and now ACL. Not to forget any cup games in the middle ( Kings Cup ). This will surely overburden the players in the latter stages of the qualifications.

    Salem Dawsari, Salman Faraj and Yasser Shahrani are all part of Olympic Squad which is another worry since all the three are in there late 20's or in early 30's. They can't carry much as before and the NT heavily relies on them.

    Only thing which can be compromised here is if at all the FA decides to send B-Team to Arab Cup and clubs coaches rotates the players frequently in the league games.
     
  6. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    This is the only solution i.e., either send B-Team to Arab Cup OR send U-23 Team. No use to send players and exhaust them for crucial World Cup qualifiers.

    Saudi has 3 home games (and we know from previous 4 world cup qualifier that how crucial it is to get maximum 3 points of home game) so Saudi should aim to get 9 out of 9 points from 3 home games initially, and 3 points from away game to Oman... Saudi Arabia NT is capable of doing this, the hardest match will be against Japan which Saudi should win if they play with 2 forwards like they played in Asian Cup 2007 in the Semi-Finals which Saudi Arabia won 3-2
     
  7. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    If I were Saudi Arabia then I would ensure qualification to World Cup before last 3 matches are played since playing 2 away matches to Japan & China are tough, and playing final game against Australia at home is also a big ask.
    Must ensure qualification before playing last 3 matches.
     
  8. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Also, Saudi Olympic team though lost all the matches in Olympics in Japan this year, but the team was impressive against Germany.

    I must say that i earlier thought of Sami Al Naji to be a useless player but he proved me wrong. He has eye for goal and is replacement of Tayseer Al Jasim in the team. The Olympic team lacked proper defense and Salman Al Faraj carelessly gave away ball to opponents in the mid-field on many occasion that resulted in opposition to score the goal
     
  9. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    I don't blame Salman Faraj performance with olympic team. The guy is playing a lot according to his age and obviously will be fatigued.

    The team overall played good but the defense as said did not perform well and it will be insane if either of the duo represents the NT again without any core justification.

    Overall, its back to square one again with NT again failing to show up in the major international competition & the reasons are plenty -

    - Lack of match winning mentality
    - No experience in playing in europe which gives you experience to adapt to different conditions
    - Partiality in selection as the olympic team selection was pure biased.
    - The younger players ain't getting game time due to 7 foreigners rule and the club are heavily relying on them instead of testing homegrown players.

    The reasons are plenty but the solutions are very very few happening
     
  10. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
  11. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    KSA gets maximum points from there first game against Vietnam. Nervy start but score should have been higher if finishing was good.

    Abdullah Otayf injury is big concern but Mohammed Kanoo really did well after coming off..

    Next match against Oman who have shocked Japan at there home and are under Branko Ivanovic who once coached Ittifaq. He knows the league and standard of playing very well and can cause problem to the NT.

    Overall, the NT under Renard is exciting to watch with lots of short passes and classy build up goals but I certainly feel the real test have not yet arrived. Against Oman should be another 3 points until unless....
     
  12. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    Indeed, we might have won 5-0 effortlessly in the event that we didn’t waste or freeze so much before the goal.

    However, the build-up play to induce us into scoring positions has been phenomenal.

    Oman is next, they are a good team and shouldn't be underestimated. They are the dark horse in our group, winning while playing on Japan's home turf.

    I wouldn't be shocked to see them within the top 3 at the conclusion of qualifying.
     
  13. hammad_friend

    hammad_friend Member

    Dec 26, 2005
    Dubai, Karachi
    Club:
    Al Hilal Riyadh
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    Oman is neither an under dog nor a push over, they are highly competitive side and much better than Vietnam IMO. They beat Japan in Japan whereas many teams including Saudi Arabia get scared playing against Japan in Japan. Oman is at par to win against any team when they play to their potential on any given day.

    But Saudi Arabia is not less than Oman either. Both teams have same mindset of playing, and where Saudi Arabia might have possession football and buildup play, Oman has sort of counter-attacking, long distance shot at target (goal post), attacking & crossing from the flanks, sort of play.

    in the end, it will be tough for Saudi Arabia to play against Oman in Oman but if Saudi Plays with attacking mindset and at fast pace then it will cause Oman lot of trouble to coupe with. Key of the match will Saleh, Fahad & Salem
     
  14. Fa1con

    Fa1con Member

    Mar 29, 2016
    Saudi Arabia
    1:0, away win to KSA, a much needed points, that will keep confidence within the team going.
     
  15. al ittihady

    al ittihady Member

    Jan 5, 2009
    Club:
    Al Ittihad Jeddah
    Nat'l Team:
    Saudi Arabia
    A very cagey affair but a good away win. The team needs Abdullah Otayf to be back soon to consolidate defence in middle of the park.

    There is no turning back now after this, two home games against China and Japan. China has lost both the games and will be hungry for some points to start of there campaign. Japan bounced back after defeating China.

    Winning both the games will be crucial and will almost guarantee qualification.

    Lastly, all in all the NT has finally found striker in Saleh Sehri. This guy is a gem and needs more game time with Hilal to keep his momentum but sadly won't happen.

    The issue is to fix a back-up who can turn things around. This can't be relied on Abdullah Hamdan. I hope Firas Bireakan or Hazza Al Hazza pick themselves up and get into the team but again you won't get noticed until you play for the big four in the league.
     

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