Arsenal v. Newcastle, Sunday February 16 2020 1630 GMT

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  1. dm3mdgtr

    dm3mdgtr Member

    Jun 17, 2003
    Mckinney, TX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Improve the D? Get Mustafi out of there. Everyone on this board, and quite frankly, the planet have said so. He wasn't alone but every serious opportunity they had…he was directly involved.
     
  2. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm no defender of Mustafi, but imo he wasn't our biggest liability in defense today. Frankly, I think Bellerin was our biggest liability. Most of Newcastle's attacks started out on the flanks by Almiron, Lazaro, and especially St.-Maximin where our wing backs were consistently getting beat on the dribble at speed. That creates all sorts of marking problems for the center backs, and mistakes are more likely to happen when marks quickly have to be re-sorted.

    While I too am firmly in favor of Mustafi moving on as soon as possible, perhaps there's a slim but growing chance Arteta can redeem him much like he seems to be doing with Xhaka. Most of us were calling for Xhaka to be sold asap just a couple months ago, and now it's hard to see him leaving. There is a fringe benefit of Mustafi now having a series of games without any major f-ups to build his confidence and improve his resale value presumably when he is sold this summer. With defensive replacements already in que, I think Arteta is giving Mustafi one last chance to prove himself. Mustafi more than anyone else realizes one more screw up and his career here is over.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    At least some great stats to enjoy!

    * basks in glow of xG spreadsheet *
     
  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Lacazette raus. He truly is awful

     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Bellerin has been a terrible defender for a long time. Basically he makes sense if we want to go fully wingback on that side, or if Arteta can teach him some things

    Otherwise I would sell him and use the money to buy actual defenders

    Especially I would prefer to use Tierney as the wingback on the left and get a more dedicated defender / hybrid midfielder on the right where we have Pepe
     
  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yep. It was finally something to be proud of.

    They suckered Newcastle midfield out, then got behind them with angled passing.

    I had thought there were times earlier in the move then they actually could have broken but it worked out in the end.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Thoughts on the rewatch

    Ceballos very involved in the attacks (snapping the ball in to feet), as was Pepe

    Finding Ozil in space.

    Saka's ability to beat a man

    Stuff we have been missing.
     
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  8. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    this is why Pepe has to run in behind

    I agree about bellerin, I like Aaron’s at Norwich
     
  9. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Biggest difference between halves was how much more positive Ceballos was in the second.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The guy has all the class and skills

    I just hope he gets to continue his development somewhere that can bring him the next step forward

    If he'd been with Arteta from the start of the season I think we'd be seeing something special by now
     
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  11. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Maybe, but he was hurt a fair bit, no?
     
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  12. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Ozil was excellent in this match, and the at-times criticized play combo of Xhaka-Ozil was key to one of our goals and one of our better first half chances
     
  13. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wow, 3.09 to 0.85 via understat. Actually better than I was anticipating
     
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  14. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have absolutely no idea what that means.
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    .it means the game is gone
     
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  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Look at the timeline and it matches up with what we saw: the first half was terrible and the second half was superb aside from a couple of big chances. All in all, probably our best performance since beating Sperz 4-2 last season.
     
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  17. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We dominated Utd as well mebe
     
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  18. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not like this. Going off of understat's numbers*, this was our best performance this season, and the best since at least the 5-1 at home against Bournemouth almost a year ago.
     
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  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps you meant to post data about Arsenal?

    p.s. In case this saves you some time, our next match in Greece is on Galavision TV channel, as per research.
     
  21. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Good catch. Been that sort of day

     
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  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For some reason I'm re-watching the Newcastle game right now.

    At 26' I just have to say that Ozil has been like a friggin energizer bunny both on offense and defense. Not sure I noticed that on first watching but it's very noticeable now. :)
     
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