another study finds conservative media bias

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    This really interesting.

    According to their analysis, Bulwark podcast, run by Charlie Sykes, actually skews left, but has high reliability - though mostly complex analysis.

    PSA is obviously much further left.

    I would have said Bulwark is centre/centre right.

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  2. xtomx

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    That demonstrates just how far to the right the overall conversation has moved.
     
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    Or is it because jitty is a commie/socialist extreme-leftist so everything is to the right for him? :eek:;)
     
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    Well, THAT goes without saying. :rolleyes:
    My comment was on Bulwark being an outlet that "skews left."

    But, hey, it's a free country (allegedly). Bulwark can "skew" whomever and whatever they choose. :whistling:
     
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    I think Tom is correct looking at the methodology. On the face of it, long time conservatives like Sykes, Kristol, Miller, Carpenter, Nicholls, Longwell, JV Last don't 'skew left'. But thinking about the content in the current US mediascape, they are closer to Joe Biden on critical issues than to any GOP voices. So i could see based on scoring of individual episodes, the content would skew left, though the people who run the Bulwark are ideologically conservative.
     
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    Remember only 5 mins ago when Fox promoted conspiracies that led to an insurrection?

    Sigh

     
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    The moment of reckoning is coming for Rupert and Fox.

    Fox News Documents Stun Legal Experts

    “The disclosure of emails and texts in which Fox News executives and personalities disparaged the same election conspiracies being floated on their shows has greatly increased the chances that a defamation case against the network will succeed,” the Washington Post reports.

    “Dominion Voting Systems included dozens of messages sent internally by Fox co-founder Rupert Murdoch and on-air stars such as Tucker Carlson in a brief made public last week in support of the voting technology company’s $1.6 billion lawsuit against the network. Dominion claims it was damaged in the months after the 2020 election after Fox repeatedly aired false statements that it was part of a conspiracy to fraudulently elect Joe Biden.”

    “Dominion said the emails and texts show that Fox’s hosts and executives knew the claims being peddled by then-president Donald Trump’s lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sydney Powell weren’t true — some employees privately described them as ‘ludicrous’ and ‘mind blowingly nuts’— but Fox kept airing them to keep its audience from changing channels
     
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    One Kenneth Niemeyer, writing in "Insider" writes, in discussing De Santis proposal to move a number of federal agencies out of DC to give states greater control:

    "Washington, DC became the nation's capital on July 16, 1790, when Congress passed the Residence Act, which established a permanent physical capitol that would become DC, according to the National Archives.

    The Residence Act was the result of a compromise at the time between Republicans Thomas Jefferson and James Madison and Federalist Alexander Hamilton, which established the capital so that they could pass the Funding Act the same year, which gave the federal government control of state debts."

    This is, of course wrong in so many ways-- especially that the Democratic Republicans Jefferson and Madison were NOT Republicans but Democrats-- they dropped the "ic Republican" and simply became Democrats, and the Republican Party grew up out of the wreckage of the Whigs some fifty years later.

    To imply that this has been a Republican objective from the start is to make a cartoon out of our history. De Santis' proposal in fact makes it quite clear that the Republicans have completely flipped sides in the semi-recent past...

    And one doubts that "Insider"-- whatever it is-- is good faith confused about this. It seems like an intellectual political argument deliberately aimed at convincing the ignorant of untruths...
     
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    "Stuns Legal Experts"?!?
    Bull

    If the two-faced, elitist, butthole millionaires (hundreds of times over, in some cases) at Fox had NOT "disparaged the same election conspiracies being floated on their shows," those legal experts would be stunned.

    Pirro, Carlson, Ingram are a lot of things (evil, grotesque, obscene, hypocritical, etc.) but they aren't stupid (not sure about Hannity or Watters).

    Of course, they did not believe that bullcrap.
    It was for ratings and money, democracy be damned.

    Well, damning democracy is definitely part of the reason for the their take, especially Tuckums.
     
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    If Thomas Jefferson and James Madison were Republicans, then I guess they can’t claim Abraham Lincoln as a founder anymore.
     
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    Trump voters are concerned about mega corporations…Obviously!

     
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    You’re just ********ing with me now, right? Right?
     
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    The Twitter thread is not my go to thread. There are good tweets and there is relevant content presented as tweets.
     
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    The effort to blame EPA as not looking out for small town America is beyond absurd given trump and conservative efforts to wreck the EPA and Ohio votes for all that.
     
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    We know what (((corporations))) they're talking about.Obviously,the townspeople should changed the name to East Haifa if they didn't want this to happen!
     
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    It's remarkable how none of the 'fake news' right has had anything to say about the largest corporate cable news channel being proven to be fake news. Indeed its become obvious that not even those on the right expect that Fox is real content.

    Meanwhile at CNN Don Lemon had to apologise for his Haley comment. Unthinkable that Fox would apologie.

    It's all just priced in
     
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    We all know that regulating the train transport of dangerous chemicals can be looked as a controversial matter:

     
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    A week has gone by and still the independent journalists who rage against the corporate media have nothing to say about the bombshell exposure that the largest cable news is fake news?

    I am at a bit of a loss to understand some of them. Obviously the likes of GG can't bite the hand that feeds - but what about the others who don't even go on Fox?

    Of course it is a collective yawn because everyone knew this, but even centrist media maintained some pretence that the news arm of Fox was still somewhat real. This shows the whole organisation is rotten. The big prime time stars tried to get a Fox journalist sacked for accurate reporting!

    I though this was good from Mehdi Hasan

     
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    Top Democratic elected and appointed politicians need to get on script and stay on script: Fox News lies, and here are the receipts. Put Fox in the defense. If you call on a Fox reporter at a presser, make snide comments. Other them.

    One reason conservatives outperform in elections when compared to how their key policy positions poll is that GOP politicians defend their base. Democratic politicians don’t have our back when we argue that the media has a conservative bias, or that trans people deserve to live in peace, or that we desperately need police reform, or that more guns are a bad idea, or abortion is health care in many cases, even if you accept that life begins at conception. It’s dispiriting to the base, and it also lets the media bias continue.
     
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    “Rupert Murdoch, chairman of the conservative media empire that owns Fox News, acknowledged in a deposition that several hosts for his networks promoted the false narrative that the election in 2020 was stolen from former President Donald Trump,” the New York Times reports.

    Said Murdoch: “I would have liked us to be stronger in denouncing it in hindsight.”
     
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    They really go beyond themselves:

     
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    Yeah, that’s exactly what we have to worry about…

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    Failing for bad faith narratives:

     
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    Enjoying the destruction of the liberal media, Glem?

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