----------------------Tomaszewski----------------- Sivebaek---------Grun-------------Helmer-------Zhirkhov ---------Martin Vazquez---Y.Toure-------Iniesta-------- -----------------Lubanski-------------Piantoni---------- ----------------------------Ademir---------------------
Goalkeepers: Banks, Beara, Bento, Buffon, Campos, Carbajal, Cech, Chilavert, Clemence, Dasayev, Fillol, Gilmar, Grosics, Goycochea, Jennings, Kahn, Keller, Maier, Máspoli, Mazurkiewicz, Pagliuca, Pfaff, Planicka, Preud'homme, Schmeichel, Schumacher, Seaman, Shilton, Southall, Taffarel, Toldo, Tomaszewski, Trautmann, Van Der Sar, Viktor, Yashin, Zamora, Zenga, Zoff, Zubizaretta Right Backs: Andrade, Armfield, Babbel, Battiston, Bergmark, Bergomi, Burgnich, Cafú, Carey, Carlos Alberto, Dixon, Djalma Santos, Djorkaeff, Ferrer, Gentile, Gerets, Pannuci, Petrescu, João Pinto, Reuter, Rob Jones, Jorginho, Josimar, Kaltz, Leandro, Leonardo, McGrain, Nasazzi, Neal, Neville, Nelinho, Sivebaek, Suurbier, Szymanowski, Thuram, Vogts, Zambrotta, J Zanetti Centrebacks: T.Adams, P.Albert, Aldair, Allemandi, Augenthaler, R. Ayala, Baresi, Beckenbauer, Belodidici, Blanc, Bratseth, Campbell, Cannavaro, R.Carvalho, Chumpitaz, I. Córdoba, Costacurta, Darío Pereyra, de Boer , Desailly, Domingos da Guía, Edmilson, Ferdinand, Ferrara, Ferri, Figueroa, Förster, Gallas, Gamarra, Germano, Gorgon, Grun, Hansen, Happel, Helguera, Helmer, Hierro, E. Hughes, Hulshoff, Hyypia, Jonquet, Julio Cesar, Katalinski, M.Keown, Koeman, Kohler, Krol, Kuffour, Lalas, Lawrenson, Lorant, Luiz Pereira, Manuel Sanchis, Marcio Santos, McGrath, Miller, Montero, Moore, Nesta, M. Olsen, Ondrus, Passarella, Perfumo, Pique, Rijkaard, Ruggeri, Santamaría, Schesternev, Schwarzenbeck, Scirea, Stam, Terry, K.Toure, Tresor, Varela, Vidic, Vierchowod, Walker, Wright, Zmuda, Left Backs: Amoros, Bossis, Brehme, Breitner, Briegel, Byrne, Cabrini, Camacho, Candela, Demianenko, Dimas, Facchetti, Haan, Hapgood, Hilário, Irwin, Jarni, Júnior, Júnior (82), Lahm, Lerby, Lizarazu, Maldini, Marche, Marzolini, Meléndez, Nilton Santos, Roberto Carlos, Schnellinger, Sergi, Tarantini, P. Thompson, van Tiggelen, R. Wilson, N. Winterburn, Zhirkhov Defensive Midfielders: Blanchflower, Bozsik, Bremner, Clodoaldo, Copping, Davids, Deschamps, De Rossi, Dino Baggio, Dunga, Edwards, Gattuso, Kasperczak, Keane, Mackay, Makelele, Masopust, Matthäus, Monti, Oliseh, Onopko, Neeskens, Netto, Ocwirk, Paulo Sousa, Y Toure, Petit, Rattin, Redondo, Simeone, Toninho Cerezo, Victor Andrade, Vieira, Wouters, Zito, Central Midfielders: Antognoni, Ardiles, Bertoni, Boban, Bohinen, Cajú, Challe, Charlton, Coluna, Di Stéfano, Effenberg, Falcão, Gascoigne, A.Gemmill, Gerrard, Giannini, Giresse, Guardiola, Hassler, Hoddle, Iniesta, Kaka, Letchkov, Liedholm, Martin Vazquez, Nyilasi, Okocha, Prosinecki, Robson, Rosicky, N.Rossi, Rui Costa, Sammer, Schuster, Socrates, Souness, Stojkovic, Tardelli, Tigana, Van Hanegem, Veron, Xavi Right Midfielders: Beckham, Bene, Blokhin, Conti, Donadoni, Finney, Garrincha, Gren, Gullit, Hanappi, Johnstone, Julinho, Kanchelskis, Lato, Matthews, Míchel, Netzer, Overmars, C.Ronaldo, Simonsen, Waddle, Zico Left Midfielders: Barnes, Baxter, Boniek, Ceulemans, Czibor, Dzajic, Futre, Gento, Gérson, Giggs, Ginola, Keizer, Maradona, Nedved, Overath, Pires, Rivelino, Robertson, Schiaffino, Signori, Suarez, Fritz Walter, White, Zidane Offensive Midfielders: Abedi Pelé, Aimar, Brady, Brolin, Bochini, Caniggia, Cubilla, Cueto, Deco, Deyna, Didí, Francescoli, Hagi, Hatzipanagis, B.Laudrup, M.Laudrup, S Mazzola, V Mazzola, Messi, Mostovoi, Pelé, Platini, Rivaldo, Rivera, Ronaldinho, Savicevic, Scholes, Scifo, Sívori, Sobeck, Suárez, Susic, Valderrama Second Strikers: Albert, Amancio, Arshavin, Baggio, Bebeto, Bergkamp, Bican, Cruyff, Dalglish, Del Piero, Figo, Gonsalves, Hidegkuti, A.James, Hamrin, Kempes, Kopa, Kubala, Litmanen, Lubanski, Mancini, Piantoni, Robinho, Six, Stoitchkov, Tostao, Totti, Uribe, Zola Strikers: Ademir, Batistuta, Best, Boksic, Cantona, Careca, Charles, Coutinho, Cubillas, Elkjaer, Erico, Eusebio, Fontaine, Greaves, Henry, A. Jackson, Jairzinho, Law, Lawton, Leónidas, Lineker, Littbarski, Lofthouse, Klinsmann, Kócsis, Larrson, McGrory, Meazza, Milla, Moreno, Müller, Nordahl, Papin, Pedernera, Peyroteo, Piola, Puskas, Raul, Reinaldo, Rensenbrink, Rep, Rial, Romário, Ronaldo, P. Rossi, Rummenigge, Rush, H. Sanchez, Seeler, Shearer, Shevchenko, Sindelar, Spencer, Streltsov, Suker, van Basten, Van Nistelrooy, Vialli, Voller, Weah, Wilkes, Wright, Zamorano, Zizinho
There are alot of mixed up position for players ...(bold) (Best, Zairzinho, Charles, Rensenbrinks ) are not strikers. Maradona, Zico, Zidane, Rivelino, Walter would be offensive midfielder rather than a left or right mid. Di Stefano, Pele are more of forward/2nd striker than midfielder.
Yeah I think the players are listed according to where they were picked in these teams rather than their best positions eg on page 1 Pele is in the first team playing along with Maradona and Di Stefano, in front of Bozsik. Athough Maradona has ended up listed as a left midfielder - I'd have to look back through the thread to see when that happened. I had Kaka as a central mid in a very attacking team. Neeskens was picked as the anchor mid in one of the first teams, also on page 1 I think. Djorkaeff is not Youri but Jean Djorkaeff, who played in the 50's I think.
Well technically, Maradona, Cruyff, Pele, Zico, Di Stefano, Falcao, Rivelino ... could play almost anywhere in midfield. For example, Pele, Di Stefano and Cruyff could also play very well in defense but it's a CRIME to put them in such position! Or since Maradona is a leftfooter, so either he is at central or on the right (so he can shoot more effectively) rather than on the left (which he was also capable of). Cruyff and Zidane would be either on central or on the left as prefer to their right foot naturally. Usually you would see the best midfield all time are (according to their prefer position) - but Cruyff ------ Di Stefano ------ Maradona ------- Garrincha Forward line All time are often: -------- Ronaldo/Eusebio ------------------- --------------------------- Pele ------------ or ------- Puskas/Cruyff --------- Pele -----------
I'm going to post one final team on this thread (which was the one I found that led me to join Big Soccer). It'll probably be a little trickier for any future posters to construct teams at this stage with the greatest players gone, and over 400 gone in total but there's still plenty of top players left if others want to have a go... players rated extemely highly in their era including currently etc. I haven't checked if all the picks on the All-Time Draft have gone or all the non-sheep from the Shep Draft but I'd be suprised if there weren't a few of them left. Excellent thread anyway, enjoyed reading the teams from the first ones to more recent ones too, and the selections have covered all era's (or most): ------------------------Marchegianni-------------------- Mannini---------England-------------Pallister--------Ziege ---------------------------Crerand----------------------- ---Rahn------------------Juninho Paulista---------Dirceu---- ------------------Butragueno---------Crespo----------------
Goalkeepers: Banks, Beara, Bento, Buffon, Campos, Carbajal, Cech, Chilavert, Clemence, Dasayev, Fillol, Gilmar, Grosics, Goycochea, Jennings, Kahn, Keller, Maier, Marchegianni, Máspoli, Mazurkiewicz, Pagliuca, Pfaff, Planicka, Preud'homme, Schmeichel, Schumacher, Seaman, Shilton, Southall, Taffarel, Toldo, Tomaszewski, Trautmann, Van Der Sar, Viktor, Yashin, Zamora, Zenga, Zoff, Zubizaretta Right Backs: Andrade, Armfield, Babbel, Battiston, Bergmark, Bergomi, Burgnich, Cafú, Carey, Carlos Alberto, Dixon, Djalma Santos, Djorkaeff, Ferrer, Gentile, Gerets, Pannuci, Petrescu, João Pinto, Reuter, Rob Jones, Jorginho, Josimar, Kaltz, Leandro, Leonardo, Mannini, McGrain, Nasazzi, Neal, Neville, Nelinho, Sivebaek, Suurbier, Szymanowski, Thuram, Vogts, Zambrotta, J Zanetti Centrebacks: T.Adams, P.Albert, Aldair, Allemandi, Augenthaler, R. Ayala, Baresi, Beckenbauer, Belodidici, Blanc, Bratseth, Campbell, Cannavaro, R.Carvalho, Chumpitaz, I. Córdoba, Costacurta, Darío Pereyra, de Boer , Desailly, Domingos da Guía, Edmilson, England, Ferdinand, Ferrara, Ferri, Figueroa, Förster, Gallas, Gamarra, Germano, Gorgon, Grun, Hansen, Happel, Helguera, Helmer, Hierro, E. Hughes, Hulshoff, Hyypia, Jonquet, Julio Cesar, Katalinski, M.Keown, Koeman, Kohler, Krol, Kuffour, Lalas, Lawrenson, Lorant, Luiz Pereira, Manuel Sanchis, Marcio Santos, McGrath, Miller, Montero, Moore, Nesta, M. Olsen, Ondrus, Pallister, Passarella, Perfumo, Pique, Rijkaard, Ruggeri, Santamaría, Schesternev, Schwarzenbeck, Scirea, Stam, Terry, K.Toure, Tresor, Varela, Vidic, Vierchowod, Walker, Wright, Zmuda, Left Backs: Amoros, Bossis, Brehme, Breitner, Briegel, Byrne, Cabrini, Camacho, Candela, Demianenko, Dimas, Facchetti, Haan, Hapgood, Hilário, Irwin, Jarni, Júnior, Júnior (82), Lahm, Lerby, Lizarazu, Maldini, Marche, Marzolini, Meléndez, Nilton Santos, Roberto Carlos, Schnellinger, Sergi, Tarantini, P. Thompson, van Tiggelen, R. Wilson, N. Winterburn, Zhirkhov, Ziege Defensive Midfielders: Blanchflower, Bozsik, Bremner, Clodoaldo, Copping, Crerand, Davids, Deschamps, De Rossi, Dino Baggio, Dunga, Edwards, Gattuso, Kasperczak, Keane, Mackay, Makelele, Masopust, Matthäus, Monti, Oliseh, Onopko, Neeskens, Netto, Ocwirk, Paulo Sousa, Y Toure, Petit, Rattin, Redondo, Simeone, Toninho Cerezo, Victor Andrade, Vieira, Wouters, Zito, Central Midfielders: Antognoni, Ardiles, Bertoni, Boban, Bohinen, Cajú, Challe, Charlton, Coluna, Di Stéfano, Effenberg, Falcão, Gascoigne, A.Gemmill, Gerrard, Giannini, Giresse, Guardiola, Hassler, Hoddle, Iniesta, Kaka, Letchkov, Liedholm, Martin Vazquez, Nyilasi, Okocha, Prosinecki, Robson, Rosicky, N.Rossi, Rui Costa, Sammer, Schuster, Socrates, Souness, Stojkovic, Tardelli, Tigana, Van Hanegem, Veron, Xavi Right Midfielders: Beckham, Bene, Blokhin, Conti, Donadoni, Finney, Garrincha, Gren, Gullit, Hanappi, Johnstone, Julinho, Kanchelskis, Lato, Matthews, Míchel, Netzer, Overmars, Rahn, C.Ronaldo, Simonsen, Waddle, Zico Left Midfielders: Barnes, Baxter, Boniek, Ceulemans, Czibor, Dirceu, Dzajic, Futre, Gento, Gérson, Giggs, Ginola, Keizer, Maradona, Nedved, Overath, Pires, Rivelino, Robertson, Schiaffino, Signori, Suarez, Fritz Walter, White, Zidane Offensive Midfielders: Abedi Pelé, Aimar, Brady, Brolin, Bochini, Caniggia, Cubilla, Cueto, Deco, Deyna, Didí, Francescoli, Hagi, Hatzipanagis, Juninho Paulista, B.Laudrup, M.Laudrup, S Mazzola, V Mazzola, Messi, Mostovoi, Pelé, Platini, Rivaldo, Rivera, Ronaldinho, Savicevic, Scholes, Scifo, Sívori, Sobeck, Suárez, Susic, Valderrama Second Strikers: Albert, Amancio, Arshavin, Baggio, Bebeto, Bergkamp, Bican, Cruyff, Dalglish, Del Piero, Figo, Gonsalves, Hidegkuti, A.James, Hamrin, Kempes, Kopa, Kubala, Litmanen, Lubanski, Mancini, Piantoni, Robinho, Six, Stoitchkov, Tostao, Totti, Uribe, Zola Strikers: Ademir, Batistuta, Best, Boksic, Butragueno, Cantona, Careca, Charles, Coutinho, Crespo, Cubillas, Elkjaer, Erico, Eusebio, Fontaine, Greaves, Henry, A. Jackson, Jairzinho, Law, Lawton, Leónidas, Lineker, Littbarski, Lofthouse, Klinsmann, Kócsis, Larrson, McGrory, Meazza, Milla, Moreno, Müller, Nordahl, Papin, Pedernera, Peyroteo, Piola, Puskas, Raul, Reinaldo, Rensenbrink, Rep, Rial, Romário, Ronaldo, P. Rossi, Rummenigge, Rush, H. Sanchez, Seeler, Shearer, Shevchenko, Sindelar, Spencer, Streltsov, Suker, van Basten, Van Nistelrooy, Vialli, Voller, Weah, Wilkes, Wright, Zamorano, Zizinho