Am I my brother's keeper?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by LeperKhan, Aug 8, 2002.

  1. LeperKhan

    LeperKhan New Member

    Aug 10, 2000
    St. Paul, MN

    Are you kidding me? They're charging this guy with manslaughter?

    From the article:
  2. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    The police should never had released that drunk before he sobered up, probably the next day.

    Interesting, each State's laws are different and today that guy's car would / could have been taken away on the spot. Due process is one thing, but a drunk can also lose his driving privledges on the spot, too.

    How far back can we go to get some justice?

    The beer lobby for fighting against higher drunk driving standards could also be to blame? What next?

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    So let me get this straight, in your world a drunk can lose his driving priviledges on the spot yet somehow that would be in accordance with due process of law?

    The person to blame in this case, if anyone, is the guy who drove the darn car. You know there really is no such thing as personal responsbility anymore in this country. People who have lung cancer from smoking sue tobacco companies because they lied about it being addictive (Like you didn't know..... and to top it off did you rely on these lies when you decided to smoke? of course not). But hey someone has to pay, so why not tobacco companies. Fat people eat too much fast food which is unhealthy. So whose fault is it? The fast food companies of course. It is there fault that french fries taste so good and subway's low fat sandwhiches taste like crap.

    Now, this guy is to blame for his friend's actions? This makes me sick. The reason why it makes me sick is it could just be any one of us.

    I am responsible for my own actions. If I die of a heart attack because I eat too much fast food it is my fault. No one elses. If I drop a friend off at his car, and he gets drunk and drives someone over, please, please arrest him. This makes me ill.
  4. Garcia

    Garcia Member

    Dec 14, 1999
    Castro Castro
    I said, due process is one thing...which sets up a counterpoint which you may have missed.

    Since "my world" is in the state of Ohio, you could say that yes, due process is rather speedy or has been taken away. I don't know why you have a beef with me over the law in Ohio even if I agree or disagree with them.

    Heck, in some states, and I thought in Ohio so maybe in some communities, you can and will lose your car. I think some are impounded while others you lose outright...forever. Oh yea, on the spot!

    Now, none of these things represent the case in question. Personal responsibility went when Clinton said he 'never had sexual relations with that woman...Ms. Lewinsky...'

    I only show you the facts. You can make your own decisions. Now, I also present you these facts to show you, everyone, that while DUI is a serious offence, that does not allow the US Constitution to be ignored. This is the biggest problem for me. While we are provided and protected in many areas, even scumbag defense lawyers (not all are scumbags) use these "rights" to free other scumbags.

    I am not in favor of allowing DUI, but we have a personal and social issue that has an emotional lobby that cannot be making a joke of our rights. MADD was started by a woman who lost a son to a drunk driver IIRC. Driving drunk is not a right, but making sure your friend gets home when you were not with him in the first place is wrong.

    So, believe it or not, I agree with you. But again, even driving is not a "right". Our due process is especially when civil or criminal cases are pending against us is a right. They made it political. They plan to take this back to trial. I am all in favor of making someone pay for the crime. Well, a young man was killed, but the alleged drunk driver was also killed, so justice was servered, right?

    Now, we can rethink our laws and policies while keeping in mind the baises of such laws.
  5. lars68

    lars68 New Member

    Apr 18, 2001
    South Jersey
    Powell should be held accountable for his role in the deaths of 2 people. He knowingly and willfully put a drunk behind the wheel of a vehicle. Said drunk caused a crash that unfortunately killed and innocent man and fortunately removed 1 drunk from the planet. Powell is not being asked to be responsible for his friends actions, only his role in the death of 2 people.

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