Altidore, Dempsey: Hull vs. Fulham 3/27 1100 ET

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Gameday' started by Kickflip89, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. StarvingGator

    StarvingGator Member

    Jun 22, 2007
    The Hospital Bar
    Excellent point. If he took his PKs, that's probably another 3 goals at least (I think he's drawn 4). Of all the places in the world, England is the most understanding when it comes to appreciating the value of a striker, even if they're not scoring. Just look Hodgson's raving about Zamora last season, and the fact that Emile Heskey might make the trip to SA with England, ahead of much more prolific strikers.

    All that said, I don't want Jozy to become a Heskey clone. He needs to be more than that. For that reason alone, I hope he doesn't come back to Hull, relegation or no. We should thank Hull for allowing a very young, very raw player to play so many minutes, and hope for a more technical side for Jozy's future.
     
  2. strangepup

    strangepup Member

    Mar 17, 2007
    LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It looked like Kochensky called Altidore a "monkey" after Altidore got fouled on that last play...it was right before Altidore turned around and started shaking his finger at him. Anyone else see that?
     
  3. thejuggernaut

    thejuggernaut Member

    Mar 25, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Calling Jozy Brickshithouse Altidore a slur is just plain stupid.
    What is he Polish?
     
  4. bct81

    bct81 Member+

    Mar 17, 2007
    Colorado (formerly northern Virginia)
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jozy was doing a very good job of hustling and working off the ball yesterday ..... even if he was occasionally offsides or did not have a run timed well with a teammate ... his work rate was higher than I have seen in the past and he was pressing defensively more than I have seen in the offensive third ....
     
  5. salsa_caliente

    salsa_caliente New Member

    Nov 11, 2009
    Tulsa, OK
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can't measure a player, eve a striker, just by how many goals they score.

    For forwards, I say, how many goals does he have a part of? The assist, the build-up, the drawn foul, etc... They are all as important as the finish.

    The true question is: does the team score more goals and have more opportunities with this player up front than without him? For Jozy, this was true yesterday. If Jozy creates a goal per game, but he never scores, then he's done a fantastic job.

    Defenders rarely dive. It's an occupational hazard. Not to mention, as a former defender, defenders HATE divers.
     
  6. SgtSchultz

    SgtSchultz Member

    Jul 11, 2001
    Parts Unknown
    A referee will just look at Altidore's physique and realize there is no way this guy could dive. He must have been pushed.
     
  7. thejuggernaut

    thejuggernaut Member

    Mar 25, 2007
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was watching Sao Paulo vs Corintians and SP's mammoth striker Washington (I believe he's a distant relative of George) gets an elbow to the nose.... three seconds pass... and the he falls down like tyson did spinks. He was red carded along with the elbower.

    I feel when a big guy really dives... it's painfully obvious to everyone around. What Jozy does is more calling your foul in Basketball IMO.
     
  8. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Basically Jozy is really strong. It's hard to knock him down. So he has to sell the contact a bit.
     
  9. strangepup

    strangepup Member

    Mar 17, 2007
    LA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is English.
     
  10. MLSNHTOWN

    MLSNHTOWN Member+

    Oct 27, 1999
    Houston, TX
    I think Jozy is really developing his target forward game. He's not great on goal kicks, etc. but the rest of his game in terms of being physical, holding off defenders, making good passes, etc. are all really taking off. Much, much better than I ever recall him doing before.
     
  11. oscar_in_fw

    oscar_in_fw Member

    Jul 24, 2007
    Fort Worth
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jozy drawing fouls ?! It's all a ploy by English refs to get Jozy used to the idea of diving. When he gets to the WC. The English defenders will all be laughing at his diving and the resultant non-foul calls with international refs. :)
     
  12. Stan Collins

    Stan Collins Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Silver Spring, MD
    The only forward Fulham have that can draw enough defensive attention to let Clint operate and play his game is Zamora, and he wasn't playing today. And of course there's the issue that when he leaves midfield he leaves a hole that Fulham have to fill.
     
  13. DempC

    DempC Member

    Jul 31, 2007
    Altidore seems to have developed a lot. His hold up play and first touch are vastly improved. He also seems to be more fit, putting in a lot more runs. I'm actually surprised that his coaches in England still think he's not a 90 minute player. A lot more confidence as well. Hopefully he can stay in the EPL if Hull go down.

    Dempsey had an average game. No major mistakes but nothing special as well.

    On another note, Jozy did seem to really get into it with Konchesky at the end.
     
  14. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I could be wrong, but I think you missed the irony in his post.
     
  15. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    David Elm has been doing pretty well in that role too but Hodgson decided to give Clint some PT instead.
     

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