AFL, Round 16 {R}

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  1. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Another big weekend in footy, as Eddie McGuire would say -- and here are the weekend fixtures...

    Friday, 15 July
    Collingwood v Essendon -- at the MCG, 7:30 p.m. Melbourne time

    Saturday, 16 July
    Geelong v Port Adelaide -- at Kardinia Park, Geelong, 2 p.m. Melbourne time
    Richmond v St. Kilda -- at the MCG, 2 p.m. Melbourne time
    West Coast v Brisbane -- at Subiaco Oval, 5:30 p.m. Perth time (7:30 p.m. in Melbourne)
    Melbourne v Sydney -- at Telstra Dome, 7:30 p.m. Melbourne time

    Sunday, 17 July
    Adelaide v Western Bulldogs -- at AAMI Stadium, 12:30 p.m. Adelaide time (1 p.m. in Melbourne)
    Carlton v Fremantle -- at the MCG, 2 p.m. Melbourne time
    Hawthorn v North Melbourne -- at Telstra Dome, 2 p.m. Melbourne time


    All the ladders, stats, news, and injury updates to come as the week unfolds...
     
  2. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The ladder, through 15 rounds

    Code:
    P  	W  	L  	D  	For  	Against  	%  	Pts
    West Coast 	15 	14 	1 	0 	1654 	1188 	139.22 	56
    Adelaide 	15 	10 	5 	0 	1364 	1084 	125.83 	40
    Geelong 	15 	9 	6 	0 	1484 	1322 	112.25 	36
    Melbourne 	15 	9 	6 	0 	1579 	1496 	105.54 	36
    Sydney 	15 	9 	6 	0 	1263 	1220 	103.52 	36
    Richmond 	15 	9 	6 	0 	1418 	1432 	99.02 	36
    North Melbourne      15 	9 	6 	0 	1369 	1393 	98.27 	36
    Brisbane     15 	8 	7 	0 	1555 	1330 	116.91 	32
    ==========================================================
    St Kilda 	15 	8 	7 	0 	1517 	1344 	112.87 	32
    Port Adelaide 	15 	7 	7 	1 	1384 	1434 	96.51 	30
    Fremantle 	15 	6 	9 	0 	1362 	1371 	99.34 	24
    Western Bulldogs 	15 	6 	9 	0 	1561 	1608 	97.07 	24
    Collingwood 	15 	5 	10 	0 	1291 	1528 	84.48 	20
    Essendon 	15 	5 	10 	0 	1309 	1576 	83.05 	20
    Hawthorn 	15 	3 	12 	0 	1255 	1517 	82.72 	12
    Carlton 	15 	2 	12 	1 	1251 	1773 	70.55 	10
    A couple of trends...

    • Great duel for the double-chances in September -- anyone from Geelong down through to North Melbourne, ranging from 3rd to 7th, in a mad fight for third and fourth spots.
    • As for the general top eight, St. Kilda and Port Adelaide solidified their respective claims with big wins at the weekend. Fremantle and the Western Bulldogs still alive, but only just.
    • And still, the wooden spoon will fall to either Hawthorn or Carlton -- neither of which did much on Sunday to suggest that they can avoid the spoon.
     
  3. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll take the stats from Triple M's footy page this week -- with some nuggets there...

    DISPOSALS
    S. West (WB) 428
    D. Cross (WB) 383
    L. Hayes (St. K.) 377
    P. Licuria (C'wood) 376
    B. Cousins (WCE) 371

    MARKS
    M. Pavlich (Freo) 139
    W. Tredrea (PA) 134
    M. Richardson (Rich) 124
    R. Murphy (WB) 119
    B. Hall (Syd) 114

    CLANGER KICKS
    J. Johnson (Ess) 23
    R. Houlihan (Rich) 20
    S. Tuck (Rich) 20
    J. Bowden (Rich) 19
    L. Hodge (Haw) 19

    HARD BALL GETS
    G. Ablett Jr. (Geel) 64
    B. Kirk (Syd) 62
    C. Judd (WCE) 59
    S. Tuck (Rich) 57
    L. Ball (St. K) 57

    HITOUTS
    D. Cox (WCE) 389
    P. Everitt (Haw) 381
    J. White (Melb) 321
    A. Sandilands (Freo) 245
    D. Jolly (Syd) 242

    CLEARANCES
    S. Mitchell (Haw) 94
    B. Kirk (Syd) 89
    A. Koutoufides (Carl) 83
    S. Tuck (Rich) 74
    L. Ball (St. K) 74

    TACKLES
    B. Kirk (Syd) 78
    J. Akermanis (Bris) 74
    L. Ball (St. K) 72
    M. Coughlan (Rich) 67
    L. Hayes (St. K) 63

    GOALS
    M. Williams (Haw) 55
    F. Gehrig (St. K) 52
    R. Robertson (Melb) 46
    M. Richardson (Rich) 45
    B. Hall (Syd) 44
     
  4. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Tuesday evening briefing...

    Umpires
    Player dissent warning issued -- sportal.com.au


    Geelong v Port Adelaide
    Cats another test for Port's away form -- The ABC the prospect of Geelong getting the likes of Ling and Ottens back should help the Cats greatly


    Western Bulldogs
    Veteran Dogs hopeful -- sportal.com.au Chris Grant and Rohan Smith may stage a return for the Doggies against Adelaide on Sunday


    West Coast v Brisbane
    Selwood twins estranged, at least for one week -- The ABC


    Richmond
    Big-game query hangs over Tigers -- The Age, via the AAP
     
  6. westcoast929406

    westcoast929406 New Member

    Oct 10, 2003
    Perth Western Aust.
    Like to make a few comments on umpire abuse by AFL players. In the previous thread there is an link to an article on Sportal.

    Today the Herald Sun in Melbourne has another article by a leading ex Rugby League Referee -Bill Harrigan. That sport had similar problems -His comments make interesting reading.
    His sport has the send off rule and sin bin. We do not have that set up at AFL level only had the next level down and so on.
    Historically the founders of the sport never gave the central umpires the power the Rugby and Soccer football referees had from the start.
    It is unlikely that the AFL will adopt the send off at this time.
    Currently a 50 metre penalty is invoked for abuse. Perhaps it should be 100 metres. However whatever happens all umpires must adopt some consistency.
    Here is the article link
    http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,15912688%5E20322,00.html
     
  7. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some very good points. In the end, it comes down to player discipline and the umpires making solid calls. Compared to other sports -- you mention rugby league and soccer, I can vouch for the latter on this and not much of an informed opinion on rugby league -- I think the AFL does a pretty good job of this on the part of its officials.

    However, incidents like what happened on Sunday when Carlton's Brendan Fevola gave away not one but two 50-metre penalties and remonstrating as he did, that sort of brings those incidents into the limelight with a bit more emphasis.

    Never mind the fact that Fevola failed to get a kick at Telstra Dome -- that in itself may have been an ultimate sign of karma.
     
  8. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Round 15 injury list -- The Herald Sun

    And here's the list, verbatim...

    ADELAIDE
    Graham Johncock (leg) test
    Rowan Andrews (groin) 1 week
    Matthew Smith (quadriceps) test
    Hayden Skipworth (hamstring) test
    Scott Welsh (groin) test
    James Begley (shoulder) 1 week
    Joshua Krueger (back/knee) 2 weeks
    Matthew Bode (shoulder) season

    BRISBANE
    Matt Moody (knee) test
    Richard Hadley (knee) season
    Jared Brennan (quadriceps) 1-2 weeks
    Justin Leppitsch (back) test
    Robert Copeland (elbow) 2-4 weeks
    Cameron Wood (ankle) test
    Leigh Ryswyk (quadriceps) test
    Luke Forsyth (groin) test
    Beau McDonald (knee) indefinite

    CARLTON
    Luke Blackwell (quadriceps) test
    Adrian Deluca (foot) 2 weeks
    Barnaby French (leg) 1 week

    COLLINGWOOD
    Anthony Rocca (Achilles) 6 weeks
    Rhyce Shaw (knee) season
    Guy Richards (hip) 1 week
    Josh Fraser (knee) test
    Chad Morrison (back) 2 weeks
    Cameron Cloke (shoulder) test

    ESSENDON
    Matthew Allan (knee) season
    James Hird (finger) 1-2 weeks
    Jason Laycock (calf) 2 weeks
    Andrew Lee (osteitis pubis) 2 weeks
    Adam McPhee (groin) test
    Adam Ramanauskas (knee) season
    Joel Reynolds (stress fracture) 5 weeks
    Henry Slattery (calf) 3 weeks

    FREMANTLE
    Peter Bell (hamstring) test
    Andrew Browne (hamstring) test
    Matthew Carr (foot) test
    Ryley Dunn (knee) test
    Robert Haddrill (ankle) season
    Andrew Siegert (heel) 1 week
    Michael Warren (foot) 3 weeks
    James Walker (leg) test
    Luke Webster (knee) 3 weeks

    GEELONG
    Brad Ottens (groin) test
    David Johnson (hamstring) test
    Steve Johnson (ankle) test
    Henry Playfair (jaw) test
    Corey Enright (knee) 2 weeks
    Matt McCarthy (shoulder) test
    Tom Harley (leg) test
    David Wojcinski (knee) season
    Steven King (calf) test
    Jarad Rooke (thigh) test

    HAWTHORN
    Chance Bateman (shoulder) season
    John Barker (quad) test
    Simon Beaumont (Achilles) season
    Tim Boyle (hamstring) 3-4 weeks
    Campbell Brown (shoulder) 3-4 weeks
    Robert Campbell (knee) indefinite
    Ben Kane (ankle) 2-3 weeks
    Lance Franklin (finger) test
    Sam Mitchell (foot) 3-4 weeks
    Simon Taylor (hamstring) test

    KANGAROOS
    Blake Grima (shoulder) season
    Daniel Motlop (hamstring) 3 weeks

    MELBOURNE
    Brad Miller (hamstring) 2-3 weeks
    Brock McLean (groin) test
    Shannon Motlop (hamstring) 1-2 weeks
    Nicholas Smith (knee) test

    PORT ADELAIDE
    Dean Brogan (leg) test
    Domenic Cassisi (concussion) test
    Jared Poulton (ankle) test
    Aaron Shattock (concussion) test
    Elijah Ware (knee) season

    RICHMOND
    David Rodan (knee) season
    Luke McGuane (arm) 2 weeks
    Nathan Brown (broken leg) season
    Kane Johnson (knee) test
    Andrew Kellaway (jaw) 6 weeks

    ST KILDA
    Nick Riewoldt (collarbone) 6 weeks
    Robert Harvey (hamstring) 2-3 weeks
    Aaron Hamill (calf) 2-3 weeks
    Brent Guerra (hip) test
    Luke Penny (knee) test
    Justin Peckett (quadriceps) test
    Leigh Fisher (hamstring) season

    SYDNEY
    Josh Willoughby (groin) test
    David Spriggs (knee) 1-2 weeks
    Matthew Nicks (knee) 3-4 weeks
    Stuart Maxfield (knee) indefinite
    Stephen Doyle (ankle) season

    WESTERN BULLDOGS
    Luke Darcy (knee) season
    Tom Williams (ankle) season
    Cameron Faulkner (collarbone) 6-8 weeks
    Rohan Smith (ankle) 2-3 weeks
    Chris Grant (knee) 1-2 weeks
    Daniel Giansiracusa (finger) 2-3 weeks
    Adam Morgan (hamstring) test

    WEST COAST
    Brad Smith (knee) season
    Beau Waters (groin) 5 weeks
    Andrew Embley (foot) 5 weeks
    Jeremy Humm (ankle) 4 weeks
    Josh Wooden (shoulder) 2 weeks
    Adam Hunter (knee) 1-2 weeks
    Ashley Sampi (ankle) 1 week
    Michael Gardiner (knee) available
     
  9. Rabotnicki

    Rabotnicki New Member

    Jul 13, 2005
    Go the Eagles and Dockers!
     
  10. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Back from the MCG for Friday Night Footy (and after looking for my car in a muddy parking lot outside the ground)...

    Collingwood v Essendon

    [result]Collingwood 15.15 (105)
    Essendon 21.5 (131)[/result]

    No comments here, that report just about says it all...
     
  12. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saturday's results, the morning after, and ahead of the Sunday trio of matches...

    At Kardinia Park, in Geelong, amid wet and cold conditions, Geelong v Port Adelaide:

    [result]Geelong 18.18 (126)
    Port Adelaide 7.5 (47)[/result]

    Will's comments: [result]Comprehensive win for the Cats, in an effort where it's hard to single out just a few players for their superlative efforts. Aside from the Cats successfully cutting off Port's attempts to make counter-attacking runs off halfback and thereby dominating possession for huge chunks of the match, the second quarter was key, where Geelong kicked seven goals to Port's two in the term. Jimmy Bartel led the way once the rains came after the halftime break, proving to be the league's bad weather specialist, much like his team when the ground gets heavy and the conditions are less than ideal.

    Darren Milburn, Joel Corey and Josh Hunt were impressive all over the ground, Kent Kingsley kicked some vital goals, Cameron Thurley was fantastic -- but when you see the midweek highlights, do not miss Gary Ablett Jr's snap goal in the second quarter... out of nothing, from the boundary, across the body, and with his non-preferred left foot. Stuff of genius.[/result]


    At the MCG, Richmond v St. Kilda:

    [result]Richmond 5.7 (37)
    St. Kilda 16.10 (106)[/result]


    At Telstra Dome, Melbourne v Sydney:

    [result]Melbourne 11.12 (78)
    Sydney 16.8 (104)[/result]

    Will's comments: [result]Demons captain David Neitz inspired a bit of a fourth-quarter fightback from the home team, but a lazy seven-goal contribution from Barry Hall allowed the Swans to see the game out over the first three quarters.[/result]


    And in the blockbuster at Subiaco Oval, in Perth, West Coast v Brisbane:

    [result]West Coast 17.9 (111)
    Brisbane 13.10 (88)[/result]

    Will's comment: [result]Had the game on in the corporate box I was working in at Telstra Dome last night, but didn't get to see much of the game. However, I can safely assume that the Eagles can now get the respect that they deserve.[/result]
     
  13. babytiger2001

    babytiger2001 New Member

    Dec 29, 2000
    Melbourne
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sunday's full-time scores...

    Very entertaining and high-scoring affair at the MCG, between Carlton and Fremantle...

    [result]Carlton 17.5 (117)
    Fremantle 24.8 (152)[/result]

    Will's comments: [result]Matthew Pavlich finished with nine goals for the Dockers -- both teams combined for 21 different goal-kickers, yet none for Brendan Fevola for the second week running.[/result]

    And at Telstra Dome, between Hawthorn and North Melbourne...

    [result]Hawthorn 10.8 (68)
    North Melbourne 16.13 (109)[/result]

    Will's comments: [result]With both Hawthorn and Carlton losing today, their meeting next week sets up a showdown (for want of a more appropriate word) to decide who's favored for the wooden spoon.

    As for this game, both Sav Rocca and Nathan Thompson showed North Melbourne coach Dean Laidley that they can both co-exist in the Kangaroos' forward structure, contributing three goals apiece.[/result]

    And at AAMI Stadium, in Adelaide, Adelaide v Western Bulldogs...

    [result]Adelaide 16.13 (109)
    Western Bulldogs 5.5 (35)[/result]

    Will's comments: [result]The Crows solidified its second-place position with a comprehensive win, while the Doggies' meek effort all but extinguished its realistic chances of playing finals footy.[/result]
     

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