A way to avoid draft by army in korea.

ah...shoot...

 

Re: Re: A way to avoid draft by army in korea.

but if ur wife is working it doesnt work

try swallowing foil gum wrappers before they take an X-ray

itll show like u have holes in ur stomach

or just show them a map of seoul and tell them "i will lay money on whatever part of the map u can reach with one palm." and then do as in the korean way "lay grass" (money)

 

I know this a joke thread

But anyone who avoids Korean conscription is lame!

Seriously...

 

WHY???

How about duty of country for one thing...There were many men who died before you just so you could have the priviledge to be typing from where you are...hate to be killjoy but thats the reality of the situation.

 

I think thats a little warped. Think about what youre saying before writing down whatever comes to your mind comrad.

Having men and not having men at the parallel are two entirely different things. Whether or not they get mowed down in the very early stages of an attack is completely moot in my mind. We all know the risk of attack from the North is pretty low at this point in the 'game.' But that doesnt mean we pack things up and you or I get a free ride, does it? The men who serve there provide a necessary security and more over a symbolic deterrant. I guess Im kinda amazed you dont realize this!@?!? Why else are NK commandos trying to infiltrate into the south by means of treacherous submarine operations?

Your comments are very typical of a younger more selfish Korean who has not yet come to appreciate who and what has come about during the development of our country. Just like everything else in life, it is give and take.

Ask yourself this hotshot...if the north attacked the south today, would you proactively enlist?

If you were a man, I think youd say yes. Well to me, trying to avoid conscription in the same sense, is equally the wrong thing to do.

my two cents.

 

and i am so very sure that you would love to go to the army.

 

do you know how corrupt the army system is? my seon-be knows of a guy who died of appendicus in the army... but the army guys covered it up as a suicide. bring it up to court? Korea isn't like usa. the gorvernment and big organizations will end up winning all the big cases. When all those rich men's son skip army and go chill in the beach, you expect foreign based koreans to go to the army? god knows how those people who don't know perfect koreans be abused... how much alcohol they will be forced to drink... how much they will be discriminated. how japan based koreans will be called jjog bbal ee and so on.

don't tell me to serve the national duty when the nation does not serve its duty for me.

 

and your comments are very typical of califonian koreans, who hold up their kp values uselessly so much, that they don't even bother learn to speak english.

 

Viva Korea? Youre a joke, man.

You sound like an african-american with all your pent up frustrations and complaints. We all know its tough to be in the Korean army, and we've all heard the horror stories. Youre going to hear about it in any country that has an army, ok?

No one said anything about loving the army or wanting to go to the army here. Try reading the posts next time, ok?

Im just saying its your DUTY? D...U...T...Y
THINK...There were thousands before you who died to help keep Korea democratic. There were millions before you and probably millions after you who will help maintain Korea's peace.

And you want a free ride?

 

I know very little about Korean Army life so all I can really say is if it was fair for everyone, it wouldn't be so bad. The problem is, the richer you are, the smaller your chance of getting drafted. That is cruel and unjust.

I have worked with some members of the Korean armed forces, and their lives do suck, but I know they enjoy the opportunity to practice English and work with Americans (if they're among the lucky ones who don't have to go into the field).

Also, from what I've seen on BigSoccer, most of the Korean posters have good enough English that they may get a better job.

I'm just curious -- how many of you reading this thread have actually served in the Korean military?

 

try reading MY posts before you ask me to read yours. I stated my reason why i do not want and see no DUTY to go to the army. Should I serve a duty to a system that is corrupt? if you were born in Nazi Germany, would you "serve your country" and kill all the jews? this is a very poor example, but it shows my point.

I will not support a corrupt system.

while your point is,

you are a korean so you have the DUTY to go to the army. (no matter how corrupt it is)


loving korea, and loving the korean government is different.

 

ok ok. we know how manly and patriotic you are to your country. you are the toughest californian stud out there who weightlifts 5 hours a day. i got your point that you are brave and that you are not afraid of anything.

but mean while, don't ever tell me about what having a tough time is about.

 

Until things change in our country, this is the way its going to be and no president or leader is going to change the "corruption" of the army. jeez...cry me a friggin river. You should entitle each of your posts with the words "I want a free ride."

Nice analogy with the Nazi thing...you wouldve been better off trying to prove to me that apples are the same thing as oranges. Your comparison told me all I need to know about your mindset.

Its been nice chatting with you.

 

and they say democracy is so great huh? yea! right...

 

The bad old days

My uncle served in the ROK army, and all he recalls was being hungry. He and his buddies found creative ways to use the M1 Garand rifle to catch fish from a river. His training consisted of duckwalking up a hill, being beaten with a broomstick and kicked in the shins with steel toe boots.

Also, he served in Vietnam, where he was supposed to receive the same wage as a U.S. GI, courtesy of the American gov't. He got 1/8 after all the embezzlement. He was lucky to get a stomach ailment and get sent back home a month early. Two weeks later, his batallion practically got wiped out in a VC ambush.

From hearing from my cousin, who served recently, there are less beatings. There are plenty of mindless tortures though, like propping yourself on your forehead and toes, with a toothpaste cap between your forehead and the ground. Scary, considering that most of SK's presidents have come from this organization.

 

yes... until things change... Do you want things to change? I do. If you want things to change, you don't stick up with whatever they do. While all the army generals pay big cash to upper army generals, to get better position, so you can receive more money from lower officers, you want underlings to go in and serve 2 years in the army?

With your attitude, French revolution would never have taken place. We would just follow the top leaders and do as they tell us to do. you do not know how to speak up against the culture and expectations of your society.

get a life. the korean military draft is nothing meaningful nor honorable thing to do. People only go because they don't want to go to jail.

only thing usefull is that you learn how to work... but instead, but you become "simple." you forget how to think creatively. one of the reasons why koreans study 30 times more than americans but american economy is 30 times better than korean economy.

 

your freaking middle school brain don't know how to think. you acutally think korea is still a democracy because we have a army draft system? you are out of touch with the real world. Korea is still a democracy because we have a big economy. North korea never got a chance to attack us because as time went by, we got better, stronger weapons. its not because south korean government decided to take in some college students and "train" them by making them fight against student riot groups, clean superior's desk with tooth paste, make your shoe "shine" and learn to iron your cloth. i don't belive i had to explain that north korea didn't attack south korea because of the draft system.

and you think i'm getting a free ride? how long have you lived in korea? i probably paid more tax than you... therefore, you are getting more of a free ride than i am getting.


you should wake up from your ideology dream.