2024 MLS Week 3 Referee Discussion [Rs]

Discussion in 'MLS Referee Forum' started by SouthRef, Mar 2, 2024.

  1. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    It's not a red card anywhere. I'm not even sure it's a yellow. But I guess if it came from Geiger, it's right by definition so...
     
  2. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mean it was a blowout from the beginning - referees were not a factor in this one at all.

    That’s what I was referring to last week - sometimes it just takes luck to get through it. The players set the tone - if they decide the want to play hard and fair, refereeing does t play much of a role good or bad.

    conversely you can have a great ref with a terrible match because the players won’t settle down.

    It’s a long season - I’m sure they won’t all be this straightforward.
     
  3. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Have a friend in SLC saying the mountains are getting 5” of snow per hour - it’s less in the valley but this is crazy.

    I assume this is a league decision
     
  4. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would assume so.

     
  5. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    MLS fans won't pay attention to that. They'll just say "ref had no VAR decisions (assuming he didn't) and no mass confrontations and not a lot of yellows, therefore he was good, better than the regulars"
     
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  6. Bradley Smith

    Bradley Smith Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    The crew is wearing Macron kits with CSA badges (red for National, black for everyone else)
     
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  7. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    So slap stick. I guess the PRO badges will come next week for the CSA replacement referees?
     
  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They aren’t coming. PRO has to pretend the CSA assigned this match to get around labor laws in British Columbia. I believe the same applies for Quebec, too. And at that point I guess you might as well do the same for the games in Toronto.
     
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  9. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    MLS won't pay its referees. You think they are gonna have LAFC come out to Salt Lake City another time this year and charter another private jet unless they really have to for a week 2 regular season replay?
     
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  10. Bradley Smith

    Bradley Smith Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Nike sponsors Canada Soccer (and thus the referee program). But I’m guessing the league vetoed Nike kits because of the league being sponsored by Adidas. So Macron was likely the most acceptable alternative that the crew could all obtain.
     
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  11. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    But they have PRO Canada as an entity?

    The legal gymnastics are something else...
     
  12. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah, I was wondering about this part and actually just presumed that Canada had switched from Nike to Macron.

    This makes more sense. And is, indeed, quite amateurish.
     
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  13. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    When is Capelli gonna raise a stink about the uniforms?

    "Uh guys what the hell are we sponsoring you guys for exactly?"
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Going to be honest. Other than nominally employing Fletcher I have absolutely no idea what “PRO Canada” is. I don’t think it does anything.
     
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  15. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Right. I'm assuming they just established PRO Canada as a de facto shell company just so they don't have to sponsor Fletcher and other admins from Canada and give him work authorization in the US?

    So why can't they say "assigned by PRO Canada?"
     
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  16. Bradley Smith

    Bradley Smith Member

    Jul 29, 2013
    Vancouver, BC, Canada
    I initially thought: why not Adidas? Those jerseys are very prevalent here, but I’m guessing that (1) PRO and Capelli would have really disliked the “old” referee kit sponsor worn, and (2) Canada Soccer wouldn’t want their referees seen on the MLS stage in Adidas when sponsored by Nike. Thus, Macron.
     
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  17. GrooveDog

    GrooveDog Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    Canada
    I'll have you know that PRO Canada has doubled employee count this past year. It now also employs Dave Gantar.
     
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  18. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    PRO Canada are the first words in their national anthem
     
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  19. Deacon_

    Deacon_ New Member

    Chelsea/Portland Timbers
    United States
    Jan 3, 2024
    Very big missed free kick call at ‘16.
     
  20. SouthRef

    SouthRef Member+

    Arsenal
    Jun 10, 2006
    USA
    Club:
    Rangers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Capelli is working to be more than just a referee kit supplier; they’ve picked up Grasshopper Zurich as a kit supplier (historically the most successful club in Switzerland with multiple Champions League appearances). Have to imagine they are not happy to lose market share here.
     
  21. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks, PSRA bot. Brand new account, and your only posts have been whining about referee decisions.
     
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  22. GoDawgsGo

    GoDawgsGo Member+

    Nov 11, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does any other league or competition use their referee kits? Or at least the ones that PRO uses? Entirely possible they only ordered enough for the PRO referees with a few extras and they just don’t have them.
     
  23. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ???

    It seems like that’s only the second post of 10 that is solely critical of an official. Like a few are in the other direction and either praising replacements or understanding decisions.

    I’d really like to avoid these sort of things. At least without much better evidence.
     
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  24. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    Not that I know of. Technically, anything below MLS has to use the USSF format/template (doesn't have to be OSI, but it has to be the USSF stripe template).

    Maybe they will outfit NWSL officials soon?
     
  25. Deacon_

    Deacon_ New Member

    Chelsea/Portland Timbers
    United States
    Jan 3, 2024
    Isn’t this blog to discuss referee decisions? I was just shocked that he missed that call, but for the most part, I’ve been impressed by a lot of the performances of the replacement referees given the circumstances.
     
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