2022 World Cup Qatar: FINAL - Argentina vs. France

Discussion in 'Argentina: Selecciones Nacionales' started by locoxriver, Dec 14, 2022.

  1. locoxriver

    locoxriver Moderator
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    May 22, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I saw this elsewhere, but it’s true: everyone talks about Dibu’s legendary last minute save in Kolo Muani play, but hardly anyone mentions Cuti’s header that followed the rebound:



    It was just as crucial, avoiding Thuram getting a chance at glory. If it wasn’t for Cuti that could have very damn well ended in goal and left us emptyhanded
     
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  2. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Well said. It is something I have mentioned as well(A couple pages back) and it is really scary to think about how many things had to go right. The kick- save, the header to clear it away and Otamendi happen to be at the right place and the right time.
    Kolo Muani just a couple minutes earlier had an opportunity as well, Mbappe sent a cross, and he missed by an inch and Dibu jumped and it looked like it was going in but bounced away. I never want to go through that again.
     
  3. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    In all fairness, its definetely scary from our perspective but we outshoot France 20 to 10 and we had 10 shots on target compare to France 5. Messi had 2 great chances later in the game which forced Lloris into making a good saves twice just before he eventually scores his second goal. Alexis also had one great chance, so did Montiel with his desperate volley and Lautaro pulled a Higuain 3 times, including that very last moment of the game. If they could have scored 4, we really could have scored 6-7 in another day.

    Our countless chances didnt get talk alot because we ended up as the winner, so the narrative of every articles has always been how "France could have won it" if wasnt that Dibu save against Muani.
     
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  4. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina




    I've always enjoyed the commentary from the Tanos. You could tell they were riding with us during the final and likely the tournament itself(Where the commentator is stressing the fact).
     
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  5. jimmi_moh

    jimmi_moh Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    They are never going to recover from this
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  6. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
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  7. SupaMario

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    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  8. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  9. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  10. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Speaking of WC final, there's always a crazy twist everytime we won it.
    1978 Netherlands tied the game 1-1 near the end normal time before we eventually won it at extra time.
    1986 Germany came back from two goals down and made it 2-2 before we eventually won it 5 minutes from time.
    2022 France tied the game twice to made it 3-3, we finally won on penalties.
     
  11. aerez

    aerez Member+

    River Plate
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Hopefully we don't do that again. LOL

    Messi talks about Dibu's save, he didn't even know what happened he mentions. It was all in the moment.

     
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  12. Albiceleste2010

    Albiceleste2010 Member+

    Watford
    Argentina
    Jun 5, 2010
    Watford
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
  13. Burr

    Burr Member+

    Boca Juniors
    Argentina
    Jul 8, 2014
    Tampa, FL
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Speaking of a start, we started in worst possible way but ended the tourney with the ultimate trophy.
     
  15. SupaMario

    SupaMario Member+

    Aug 31, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    CA Tigre
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina

    Feels like yesterday I was staying up watching our first match... Everything after felt like a Final. How time flies.
     
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  16. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    As you say, seems like yesterday. I remember after the Saudi game and the first half of the Mexico game thinking we're not even going to get out of the group stage and how was I going to process all this. Not that the games against the Dutch and France did much for my sanity or my liver.
     
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  17. Rattlehead

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    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    #2067 Rattlehead, Nov 20, 2023
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2023
    I havent born yet in 1978 , but you could imagine the supporter"s reaction when Netherlands hits the post at injury time ?

    2022, we got to experience similar feeling.

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    In case anyone here has some spare money...:D

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  18. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Football is a game of such close margins isn't it, like you say, Holland hit the post in the last second of nomal time in 1978, that save by Dibu, 3 world cups could have been 1. Also, I'll never slag off VAR, but for that Messi's second goal against France would have been ruled out for offside. I still don't know how I got through extra time against France, well I do, Becks and Vodka.
     
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  19. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There's no offside on Messi second goal though. Lautaro was clearly onside on the reply when Messi passed the ball. Even both English commentators agreed right away, its should be a goal. VAR actually missed out Gvarodiol's handball against RDP's shot.

    As you said, WC final most of the time is a close contest. A 3-0 blow off like 1998 is rare. If Baggio didnt miss his, it could be Italy with 5 stars and Brazil 4 at present. The star on the badge often decided by such small margin.
     
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  20. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina


    Still think it should have been 4-0.
     
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  21. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    That was my point, it wasn't offisde, but the assistant ref flagged for offside, pre-VAR that goal would have been ruled out and France would have own 3-2.
     
  22. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To be honest I don't think that was a pen, his arms are close to his body, yeah the ball hits his arm but I don't think there was a signficant movement towards the ball. But really, who cares, we won the world cup :D:D
     
  23. Leon12

    Leon12 Member+

    Jan 5, 2006
    Man of the world
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    100% correct, if he doesn't head that ball Thuram has an empty goal to put the ball into.
     
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  24. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    There's another chance earlier in extra time which Dibu blocked a shot and it spilled out from his hand , but Cuti was there to cover the ball.
     
  25. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

    Barcelona, Inter Milan
    Argentina
    Jun 21, 2010
    Jakarta
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    Thats like saying Montiel handball wasnt a handball lol
     

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