2022 MLS Week 27 Referee Discussion

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  1. SouthRef

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    #126 SouthRef, Sep 3, 2022
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    I'm glad they did this - they usually don't address non-interventions but I think this was handled well. I doubt that will make Cincinnati feel any better but this is a fair way to look at it.

    "we can't be sure it was the right decision but we are sure it wasn't the wrong decision"

    EDIT: Yes, I know there are some semantics involved here. Short of the SA offside system being used in the UCL/World Cup, these calls are just not possible to determine with certainty and so the attacker (appropriately) gets the advantage. When that system is rolled out widely I look forward to being enraged that a beautiful goal is ruled out by "toenail offside" but thems the breaks.
     
  2. JasonMa

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    Based on Twitter, it hasn't
     
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  3. StarTime

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    [feigns shock]
     
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  4. incognitoind

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    Apr 8, 2015
    It makes me sad. PRO does the right thing by explaining the logic and thought process and everyone on Twitter just says “you’re trash”. It’s unfortunate because as has been said here multiple times, this is the way PRO wants this to work. ARs that give the benefit of the doubt to attackers. VARs who don’t guess. You just can’t make everyone happy I guess
     
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  5. code1390

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    When MLS eventually has SAOS and players are called off by a cm, all the same people will be complaining about those too.
     
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  6. MassachusettsRef

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    Of course, this partial transparency creates other issues. Where’s the Portland-Seattle PK? I don’t think I’m revealing any state secrets at this point when I say PRO wanted that reviewed and overturned. But it’s not addressed here. So for the one public communication on this, you get the controversial offside defended but not admission of error on the penalty call.

    And it’s not like PRO is afraid to admit error. It’s just the selective aspect of it all. It’s erratic. Either admit all self-declared clear errors or don’t admit any. But if they admit all, that would eventually lead to an untenable situation. So you get the current hodgepodge approach.
     
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  7. RefIADad

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    At the end of the day, the uninformed masses will never be happy and will always complain. It’s a fools errand to ever think they will wise up.

    Simply put, fans are conditioned to hate referees. Always have, always will. They just have places now where they can anonymously post defamatory commentary and get away with it.
     
  8. incognitoind

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    Apr 8, 2015
    You wonder if the non acknowledgment may have something to do with the official involved
     
  9. SouthRef

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    I wonder if it has to do with who complains as well. players, coaches, fans, etc will always complain

    I wonder if someone associated with ownership complains they get more attention
     
  10. StarTime

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    Oct 18, 2020
    Honestly, I think the simpler explanation is that there was simply a lot more hoopla made about the Cincinnati call. Seattle fans complained, but it was a normal amount of complaining; this Cincinnati thing, for stupid reasons, somehow became one of the biggest controversies of the year. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
     
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  11. socal lurker

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    May 30, 2009
    or PRO thought it was a useful vehicle for explaining the intervention standard
     
  12. SouthRef

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