2022 Attendance Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Ron36pc, Feb 27, 2022.

  1. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If the guy that packed up Austin Aztex were still an owner, I'd feel a bit of schadenfreude over this, and Austin's MLS team holding steady with a solid wait list.

    But if I remember right that bastard sold out and moved... somewhere.

    I'll hold off feeling sad about it until after someone confirms my memory.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLB attendances are also before pre-pandemic levels, though they have started to creep up again. Watching sport in person in a habit. Once you get out of the habit you have to make an effort to get back in. Some people realize there are better things to do on a Saturday evening, or whenever.
     
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  3. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, the league as a whole is neatly back to its 2019 average. But Orlando’s not on a trajectory that implies that it’ll get back there anytime soon. Its year to year decrease in attendance after 2015 would argue for a more foundational problem in that market, though certainly Covid made thing worse.
     
  4. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Blasphemy! Well, maybe college football, but that's about to swirl down the drain and become NFL Ligue Deux or whatever...
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Charlotte and Nashville have something to do with that plus Portland's expansion. But something is happening in Cascadia with Covid, the scandals and everything.

    The decline at some clubs probably has something to do with STH holders but renewing post Covid but I don't have anything to back that up.
     
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  6. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    The new ownership and stadium in Columbus have certainly helped attendance here.
     
  7. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Is it really the scandal that's keeping Portland from selling out, or is 23-24k the cap of their base?
     
  8. crookeddy

    crookeddy Member+

    Apr 27, 2004
    Looks like solid attendance for the skills challenge. Did l.a. have so many?
     
  9. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s the scandal. I love it though. Tickets are cheaper.
     
  10. SabreKhan

    SabreKhan Member+

    Jun 25, 2007
    United States
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I haven't been paying attention. What's scandalous?
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Some Timbers supporters are upset about a former coach of the Thorns being merely fired for coming on to players.

    I know, it doesn't make any sense but they sure are indignant about it.
     
  12. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    1. "Coming on" to players is a hell of an understatement. There are multiple credible accusations of being coerced into sex.
    2. The coach isn't the only problem, it's management that didn't didn't disclose their findings when a separate team attempted to (and did) hire the coach.
    3. While that's the biggest issue, it's far from the only thing in the mix. General interactions between the FO and SGs (for both teams) has not been good for several years.
     
  13. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's also the whole "sweeping the Andy Polo assault under the rug" problem as well.
     
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  14. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Strange, but Week 25 attendance figures are still missing from the Red Bulls and Galaxy; two teams that usually are very good about reporting their attendances. Through 10 games so far, the average is over 20,000 fans, which is pretty good considering Colorado was under 14k and Miami was under 12k for their games. The average should get a decent boost with the two remaining games being hosted by Nashville and Seattle.

    With most teams having just 9 or 10 games left on the season, the playoff race is heating up with a multitude of teams in each conference jockeying for position to either make the playoffs or better their current standing above the playoff cut line.
     
  15. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    You know, just a coach "coming on to players". SMH
     
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  16. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Ooh, "disrespect"! Maybe he used the wrong pronouns or deadnamed someone. The horror.

    It's like the goofballs who are mad at the Crew about the Watson situation. Address it to the Browns.
     
  17. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are people allowed to make up their own minds about how they want to spend their own money, or should they just align their actions with what you think is proper, PO'd?.
     
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  18. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, your weak edgelord trolling was boring when it was first tried years ago. Seeing it now is just sad.
     
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  19. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are so bad at this.
     
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  20. SetPeace

    SetPeace Member+

    Jun 22, 2004
    SC Illinois
    Club:
    Torquay United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Week 25 MLS attendances:

    New York Red Bulls (vs. Orlando) Not Listed
    Cincinnati (vs. Atlanta) 25,037
    New England (vs. DC United) 24,240
    Philadelphia (vs. Chicago) 18,682
    Toronto (vs. Portland) 28,598
    Miami (vs. New York City) 11,419
    Austin (vs. Kansas City) 20,738
    Colorado (vs. Columbus) 13,254
    Dallas (vs. San Jose) 15,106
    Houston (vs. Montreal) 21,284
    Los Angeles Galaxy (vs. Vancouver) Not Listed
    Los Angeles FC (vs. Charlotte) 22,140
    Nashville (vs. Minnesota) 25,240
    Seattle (vs. Salt Lake City) 33,093

    Average (12 games): 21,569
     
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  21. ChrisV323LA

    ChrisV323LA New Member

    LA Galaxy
    Jun 25, 2021
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  22. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The guy that updates the 2022 NYRB results on Wikipedia is pretty tenacious.
     
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  23. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Certainly they can spend their money on whatever they want. But boycotting a team in one league because of something another team did is stupid and it's fair to point that out. Does anyone expect Tamp Bay Buccaneer fans to boycott their team because of the way the Glazers run Man U? We'd all think they were idiots.

    You may not believe it but there actually were signs about Watson at a Crew game shortly after the trade. Virtue must be signaled apparently, even though the Crew had nothing to do with Watson.
     
  24. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The operations of the Timbers and Thorns are far too integrated to write these things off as something "another team" did. The GM who fired Paul Riley and then stayed silent while he went directly to another team was and still is the GM of the Timbers. The Polo situation was entirely the Timbers, not "another team." The story yesterday was about the PTFC business office, which is fully integrated, not "another team."
     
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  25. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    They fired the coach and player. If they had publicly denounced Riley (who denies the claims against him) it would just lead to a suit. Best to part ways. If you're not aware of it, it's not unusual for companies to keep employees accused of bad behavior on the payroll while lawsuits play out. It keeps them from becoming a witness for the plaintiffs.

    Riley was accused of making sexual advance to players. Did any players admit to succumbing to his advances? They would no doubt portray themselves as victims of sexual harassment. Riley would no doubt portray them as pursuing a traditional strategy for career advancement. Sixty years ago my mom was my dad's secretary. Dating the boss was accepted then. Even today I know of companies that let spouses work in the same chain of command.
     

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