2022-23 Hot Seat

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Collegewhispers, May 18, 2022.

  1. supercell

    supercell New Member

    Aug 19, 2021
    Curious where that 2.5 number comes from and if it's really accurate. Steph Curry just dumped a pile of money into women's sports there last year.
     
  2. Fitballer

    Fitballer Member

    Mar 6, 2015
    They called me and asked me to apply. I asked about scholarships...I did not apply
     
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  3. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OPEN:
    Alabama A&M (12/2)
    Indiana State (12/2)
    Northwestern State (1/4)
    Alcorn State (1/10)
    Prairie View A&M (2/?)


    FILLED:
    Delaware - Kelly Lawrence (Penn State assistant; 10/24-11/14)
    Tulsa - Jim Rhein (Tulsa interim for 2 years!)
    Nevada - Vanessa Valentine (Cal assistant;11/7-11/22)
    South Carolina State - Liz-Amanda Brown (interim; 9/24-12/6)
    Chicago State - Aulani Fernandez (interim; 7/1-12/6)
    Cincinnati - Erica Demers (UAB head; 11/14-12/7)
    Northern Arizona - Alan Berrios (NAU associate head; 10/7 - admin leave; 11/18-12/7)
    UTEP - Gibbs Keeton (Texas Tech associate head; 11/1-12/7)
    Jacksonville State - Sean Fraser (Louisiana Monroe head; 10/24-12/7)
    UMBC - Rick Stainton (Georgetown assistant; 10/17-12/14)
    Richmond - Adam Denton (Davidson head; 10/27-12/15)
    Dartmouth - Taylor Schram (Boston College assistant; 11/6-12/15)
    Toledo - Mark Batman (Ohio Northern head - 10/28-12/19)
    Coastal Carolina - Jo Chubb (Arizona State assistant; 10/28-12/20)
    Incarnate Word - Jake Plant (Eastern Illinois head; 8/1-12/20)
    Abilene Christian - Stephen Salas (Hardin-Simmons associate head; 10/31-12/20)
    Belmont - Kelsey Fenix (Trevecca Nazarene head; 11/11-12/22)
    Troy - Stuart Gore (Northwestern State head; 10/31-1/4)
    St. Bonaventure - Donny George (Niagara assistant; 11/1-1/5)
    Louisiana Monroe - Will Roberts (ULM Assistant, 11/22- 1/12)
    MVSU - Kayleigh Lambrechts (John Melvin head; 12/15-1-13)
    Marist - Nicole Pacapelli (Binghamton assistant; 12/2-1/17)
    UAB - Lisa Mann (West Virginia State head; 12/7-1/18)
    Davidson - Riley Piechnick (Bucknell associate head; 12/15-2/9)
    Eastern Illinois - Dirk Bennett (EIU assistant; 12/16-2/10)



    Good work from EIU taking a shade under 2 months for making an internal hire public. I’m sure there was a lot of due diligence to make that one happen.
     
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  4. USsoccerguy

    USsoccerguy Member

    Feb 5, 2009
    Club:
    Gamba Osaka
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  5. CASLKING

    CASLKING Member

    Houston dash
    United States
    May 20, 2018
    Will never understand why an athletic department that has a very successful team with an assistant coach that wants to job not just give it to her.

    I also can’t understand why a team that has had multiple consecutive losing seasons like Eastern Illinois promote their assistant coach who was part of that.

    college athletics makes little sense these days.
     
  6. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    No mention here yet of the new legislation allowing (but not requiring) a third countable, full-time assistant coach, and eliminating volunteers. Apparently only the top-funded programs are actually getting it - most of the SEC and the top half of the other P5s. Probably not too many others. Crucially, while the legislation doesn't require adding a third assistant, it explicitly eliminates volunteers. There is still some legal gray area about whether the position can be part-time; but after this spring, no more volunteers. You either have three paid, countable assistants (who can all recruit off campus, etc), or two.

    Not sure how this effects hires and fires and anything else, but thought it worth a mention (it goes into effect July 1).
     
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  7. luvthegame

    luvthegame Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    You can have a non paid third asst. And they can recruit etc like the other assistants. They do not have to be full time. It just takes the volunteer label off them.
     
  8. Nooneimportant

    Leeds United
    Jan 12, 2021
    They can, but a big reason the NCAA, conferences and schools got behind this legislation has to do with liability. It is extremely problematic to have someone work without pay. It opens the NCAA and schools up to all kind of potential lawsuits. If this is the reason schools voted for it, I doubt very many will turn around and make the decision to just change the name of the potential problem from volunteer to unpaid assistant (who can now work more hours because they can recruit).

    I know that the school I work for and a couple of friends I talked to have rules in place that, if they work a certain number of hours, they must earn a minimum wage (differs from school). When they were volunteers this didn't apply. Now it will and it will price us out of having another assistant which goes to @Enzo the Prince point about P5's getting them. A number of non-P5's won't be able to afford them which is the way it goes in college sports these days. Most legislation that comes down the pike these days will be skewed towards P5.
     
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  9. Sledhead

    Sledhead Member

    Atalanta
    United States
    Jul 14, 2019
    Hearing ISU won't hold final, on campus interviews until March. No idea who the finalists are, if they have even decided those finalists yet but this has to be a cost avoidance measure on ISU's part, right? No other good reason to drag out the process this long.
     
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  10. sokarcrazy

    sokarcrazy Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    They are still paying their former HC so it’s obvious they are trying to mitigate that expense, in the end it’s hurting the program and setting it further back.
     
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  11. Enzo the Prince

    Sep 9, 2007
    Club:
    CA River Plate
    My understanding is each state's Dept of Labor will determine if this is permissible for state schools. North Carolina, for one, has already ruled that it is not. You cannot have an unpaid coach doing the same work as paid coaches in a North Carolina state school. This, at least, is what I was told by the head coach of a state school in North Carolina, as it was explained to them by their compliance department.

    At privates it's anyone's guess, but as Noone said, there is a liability issue that appears to be one of the main reasons a lot of non-P5s voted this legislation in, knowing they were not going to fund an additional coach. They just don't want volunteers around anymore.
     
  12. SmallSchoolGaffer

    May 24, 2021
    Everyone. If the school funds it.
     
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  13. devad

    devad Member

    Nov 18, 2012
    We will all be following closely how all of this affects the landscape. UNC, Stanford, UCLA Notre Dame will always be there. Will the SEC and BIG 10 programs with budgets be able to use those to stay near the top. Adding a 4th coach seems like a huge competitive advantage. Will the PAC 12 schools who have had some success be able to keep up? WSU? UW? Cal? How will this affect the high academic mid majors (Georgetown, Harvard, Princeton etc.)?

    The future of college athletics sure seems like it is SEC and Big 10 and then everyone else. The difference in TV payouts in the next few years could be over $70 million per year per school in an SEC/BIG10 school and a Big 12 school. can TCU and WVU stay relevant or is that too big to overcome?
     
  14. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OPEN:
    Indiana State (12/2)
    Northwestern State (1/4)
    Alcorn State (1/10)
    Prairie View A&M (2/?)


    FILLED:
    Delaware - Kelly Lawrence (Penn State assistant; 10/24-11/14)
    Tulsa - Jim Rhein (Tulsa interim for 2 years!)
    Nevada - Vanessa Valentine (Cal assistant;11/7-11/22)
    South Carolina State - Liz-Amanda Brown (interim; 9/24-12/6)
    Chicago State - Aulani Fernandez (interim; 7/1-12/6)
    Cincinnati - Erica Demers (UAB head; 11/14-12/7)
    Northern Arizona - Alan Berrios (NAU associate head; 10/7 - admin leave; 11/18-12/7)
    UTEP - Gibbs Keeton (Texas Tech associate head; 11/1-12/7)
    Jacksonville State - Sean Fraser (Louisiana Monroe head; 10/24-12/7)
    UMBC - Rick Stainton (Georgetown assistant; 10/17-12/14)
    Richmond - Adam Denton (Davidson head; 10/27-12/15)
    Dartmouth - Taylor Schram (Boston College assistant; 11/6-12/15)
    Toledo - Mark Batman (Ohio Northern head - 10/28-12/19)
    Coastal Carolina - Jo Chubb (Arizona State assistant; 10/28-12/20)
    Incarnate Word - Jake Plant (Eastern Illinois head; 8/1-12/20)
    Abilene Christian - Stephen Salas (Hardin-Simmons associate head; 10/31-12/20)
    Belmont - Kelsey Fenix (Trevecca Nazarene head; 11/11-12/22)
    Troy - Stuart Gore (Northwestern State head; 10/31-1/4)
    St. Bonaventure - Donny George (Niagara assistant; 11/1-1/5)
    Louisiana Monroe - Will Roberts (ULM Assistant, 11/22- 1/12)
    MVSU - Kayleigh Lambrechts (John Melvin head; 12/15-1-13)
    Marist - Nicole Pacapelli (Binghamton assistant; 12/2-1/17)
    UAB - Lisa Mann (West Virginia State head; 12/7-1/18)
    Davidson - Riley Piechnick (Bucknell associate head; 12/15-2/9)
    Eastern Illinois - Dirk Bennett (EIU assistant; 12/16-2/10)
    Alabama A&M - Prince Borde (Jacksonville assistant; 12/2-2/22)



    Coming in just under three months! Good work Alabama A&M!
     
  15. SuperSoccer1978

    Barcelona
    Nov 24, 2011
    Club:
    Celtic FC
  16. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OPEN:
    Indiana State (12/2)
    Alcorn State (1/10)
    Prairie View A&M (2/?)


    FILLED:
    Delaware - Kelly Lawrence (Penn State assistant; 10/24-11/14)
    Tulsa - Jim Rhein (Tulsa interim for 2 years!)
    Nevada - Vanessa Valentine (Cal assistant;11/7-11/22)
    South Carolina State - Liz-Amanda Brown (interim; 9/24-12/6)
    Chicago State - Aulani Fernandez (interim; 7/1-12/6)
    Cincinnati - Erica Demers (UAB head; 11/14-12/7)
    Northern Arizona - Alan Berrios (NAU associate head; 10/7 - admin leave; 11/18-12/7)
    UTEP - Gibbs Keeton (Texas Tech associate head; 11/1-12/7)
    Jacksonville State - Sean Fraser (Louisiana Monroe head; 10/24-12/7)
    UMBC - Rick Stainton (Georgetown assistant; 10/17-12/14)
    Richmond - Adam Denton (Davidson head; 10/27-12/15)
    Dartmouth - Taylor Schram (Boston College assistant; 11/6-12/15)
    Toledo - Mark Batman (Ohio Northern head - 10/28-12/19)
    Coastal Carolina - Jo Chubb (Arizona State assistant; 10/28-12/20)
    Incarnate Word - Jake Plant (Eastern Illinois head; 8/1-12/20)
    Abilene Christian - Stephen Salas (Hardin-Simmons associate head; 10/31-12/20)
    Belmont - Kelsey Fenix (Trevecca Nazarene head; 11/11-12/22)
    Troy - Stuart Gore (Northwestern State head; 10/31-1/4)
    St. Bonaventure - Donny George (Niagara assistant; 11/1-1/5)
    Louisiana Monroe - Will Roberts (ULM Assistant, 11/22- 1/12)
    MVSU - Kayleigh Lambrechts (John Melvin head; 12/15-1-13)
    Marist - Nicole Pacapelli (Binghamton assistant; 12/2-1/17)
    UAB - Lisa Mann (West Virginia State head; 12/7-1/18)
    Davidson - Riley Piechnick (Bucknell associate head; 12/15-2/9)
    Eastern Illinois - Dirk Bennett (EIU assistant; 12/16-2/10)
    Alabama A&M - Prince Borde (Jacksonville assistant; 12/2-2/22)
    Northwestern State - Ian Brophy (Mount Olive head; 1/4-2-23)
     
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  17. SpeakeroftheHouse

    PSG
    Italy
    Nov 2, 2021
    Seems like he’s had success wherever he’s been whether as an assistant or HC. It makes me laugh when people act like jobs like this one are incredibly desirable jobs. A good person with a track record for success at under supported programs is probably the perfect hire.
     
  18. SuperSoccer1978

    Barcelona
    Nov 24, 2011
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    We hammer under qualified female hires (which I myself have done) but now an under qualified male gets a job and he's a good person who deserves it.

    Personally, I don't think you'll find a female coach who coaches in the women's game that never played soccer and was recruited to play a completely different sport in college. I can't imagine this would happen on the men's side so why should the women's game have coaches who never were recruited to play the sport their coaching in college.

    It seems to me that hiring a person like this is just the administrations saying to the successful soccer team at Northwestern State 'We've hired someone that won't make waves or leave quickly.'
     
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  19. WSOCFan

    WSOCFan Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2023
    Any idea which coaches will be on the hot seat this Fall?
     
  20. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    Wow, some folks are anxious! Let me guess, your kid is at a program not doing well or the coach is in year 4 and no extension has been announced? There are some tell-tale signs for sure.

    There are likely a few more Fall 23 changes coming....and this thread wasn't "restarted" for the current year until May.

    But feel free to speculate if you want to throw names out there.
     
  21. WSOCFan

    WSOCFan Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2023
    I don’t have a horse in this race. I am just a college soccer fan and someone that’s just genuinely excited/curious about future hot seat conversations.
     
  22. luvthegame

    luvthegame Member

    Oct 17, 2005
    Nothing more exciting than watching coaches lose their jobs.
     
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  23. WSOCFan

    WSOCFan Member

    Arsenal
    Brazil
    Feb 26, 2023
    On the contrary, nothing like hiring the right coach for the right program.
     
  24. LimestoneKid

    LimestoneKid Member

    Edmonton Drillers
    Canada
    Dec 22, 2022
    Yep, exactly. What sort of person would actually look forward to something like that?
     

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