Pre-match: 2022–23 UEFA Nations League

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  1. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Van Gaal better wake up
     
  2. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Klaassen scores Lol
     
  3. wilson00

    wilson00 Member

    Oct 14, 2015
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Blind time is up
     
  4. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Blind at fault again
     
  5. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Var is correct
     
  6. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Get Berghius off. Too slow in possession
     
  7. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    For crying out loud, stop taking those short corners
     
  8. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Why Teze? Just got megged
     
  9. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I knew he was going to miss that penalty :(
     
  10. windycity

    windycity Member

    Oct 19, 2001
    Where do you think
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Should have won but I like the fight back, good to see them handle some adversity. That said, still lots of work to do
     
  11. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bad result. Good fight back.
    Memphis terrible miss.
     
  12. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #187 Brilliant Dutch, Jun 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2022
    Belgium also draw. We remain in 1st place
     
  13. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Bad Memphis showed up in the first half and this can never happen against good teams as he's the only scoring threat on this team right now.. Ake again showed he is good for one huge mental mistake every game. Timber is much better than Teze who should not be on the team at all. Bergwijn was mediocre. Gakpo looked lost on the right side but that might just be from lack of play. If de Jong gets hurt this team is dead in the water and won't make it out of the group. Blind is past his prime as we all know. Berghuis plays because there is too much mediocrity among the MFs.
     
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  14. The only players with a sufficient rating by me are Ake, de Vrij and Dumfries.
    I give 4 out of 10 to Memphis, Blind and van Gaal.
    LvG gets that bad rating first for putting this team on the pitch and second for the tactical plan, not being in line with the players on the pitch.
    If you want to play this tactic, put players on the pitch who can execute it. This bunch in my eyes are capable of executing not one of any tactical plan.
     
  15. fixed your post.
     
  16. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Memphis said missing a penalty "can happen" and playing a bad half "can happen".

    Flekken needs a mention as well. Didn't have much to do vs Wales and now Poland but nevertheless leaks goals. Something like 3 chances, 3 goals conceded.

    Cillessen had some useful interventions against Belgium lately; Bijlow in previous games.
     
  17. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    #192 Orange14, Jun 11, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 11, 2022
    Late in the second half Flekken had to come out quickly when Ake made another error and let his man almost get in. Maybe Ake does catch up, but Flekken was alert enough to kick the ball to safety. Flekken was let down by his defenders on all three goals. You could have Buffon in his prime and those would be goals as well.
     
  18. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Maybe. Flekken said himself he was poor at the first goal.
     
  19. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Could be that he was. I did not watch on the Dutch feed and did not see any interviews after the match. The US commenters felt that he was not at fault but certainly he was not at fault on the 2nd goal when it was 2 attackers in on the GK.:eek:

    Edit: I think Bijlow still has to be first choice keeper.
     
  20. Flekken's activities were taking two balls out of the goal, the intervention you mentioned and some back passes by other players. I wouldnot blame him for any of those goals. The first goal was 95% on Blind and maybe 5% on Flekken, but still.
    So he just balances on the sufficient side of my ratings, but that's more because of lack of noticeable activities.
     
  21. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Memphis needs to be sharper. Bad Pk.
    Flekken was not good great vs Denmark and Germany.
    He’s 3rd string.
    I’m for Cillessen who seems a little more solid, but it will be interesting to see where he moves to.
    Bijlow bothered me terribly on that outrageous mistake vs Turkey.
     
  22. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Error definitely by Ake who has improved with more playing time, and overcoming injury problems.
    That said you just cannot make mistakes like that.
    He also receives little coverage help from Blind so again it does not help your playing with a guy who is pathetic defensively
     
  23. From my pov Ake was playing both CD and left back. Blind was so slow Ake every time had to run to the left back position to stop the player popping up there and Blind in the process was trying to plug the hole left by Ake in the center.
    Every time LvG puts Blind on the pitch it's a failure for giving another player time to hone in the necesary minutes of experience with the rest of the selection.
     
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  24. Brilliant Dutch

    Brilliant Dutch Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Oct 14, 2013
    Amsterdam, Holland
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    I think once he's healthy I prefer Cillessen as our #1
     
  25. richsavare

    richsavare Member+

    Ajax
    Netherlands
    Jan 28, 2003
    New Jersey
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Memphis was better in 2nd half despite the missed pk and frustrating decisions etc.
     

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