2021 MLS Week 2 Referee Discussion

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  1. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/23/21
    Sporting Kansas City vs Orlando City
    Children’s Mercy Park (7:30PM ET)
    REF: Joe Dickerson
    AR1: Kyle Atkins
    AR2: Kathryn Nesbitt
    4TH: Brandon Stevis
    VAR: Chris Penso
    AVAR: Peter Balciunas
     
  2. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. SKC/ORL... two goals waived off in one half because a shot was saved, and the player who jumped on the rebound was offside when the shot was taken. One needed VAR, one called in real time, both correct.

    Seeing it once is not all THAT rare, but seeing it twice this quickly is quite the oddity.
     
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  3. Mi3ke

    Mi3ke Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    New Mexico
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And nice announcer explanation to the "why" both were called back.

    Cheers, Mi3ke
     
  4. Mi3ke

    Mi3ke Member

    Oct 18, 2011
    New Mexico
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "And the flag comes up." for the third time. But it is a GOAL!

    Nice goal, BTW.

    Cheers, Mi3ke
     
  5. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VAR has been used four times in this match. You never want to see the need for that, but all four plays were close in real time. All four reviews got the call right. And all four went rather quickly and efficiently. About the best you could hope for.
     
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  6. GlennAA11

    GlennAA11 Member+

    Jun 12, 2001
    Arlington, VA
    I like Dickerson in general, but weird things seem to happen in a lot of his games
     
  7. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/24/21
    New York City FC vs FC Cincinnati
    Yankee Stadium (1PM ET)
    REF: Dave Gantar
    AR1: Jeffrey Greeson
    AR2: Gjovalin Bori
    4TH: Robert Sibiga
    VAR: Alan Kelly
    AVAR: Tom Supple

    Nashville vs CF Montreal
    Nissan Stadium (2PM ET)
    REF: Fotis Bazakos
    AR1: Peter Manikowski
    AR2: Adam Wienckowski
    4TH: Brooke Mayo
    VAR: Daniel Radford
    AVAR: Craig Lowry

    Toronto FC vs Vancouver Whitecaps
    Exploria Stadium (3PM ET)
    REF: Jair Marrufo
    AR1: Corey Rockwell
    AR2: Brian Poeschel
    4TH: Greg Dopka
    VAR: Ted Unkel
    AVAR: Kevin Klinger
     
  8. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/24/21
    San Jose Earthquakes vs FC Dallas
    PayPal Park (3:30PM ET)
    REF: Tim Ford
    AR1: Jason White
    AR2: Art Arustamyan
    4TH: Elijio Arreguin
    VAR: Kevin Terry Jr
    AVAR: Mike Kampmeinert

    Los Angeles FC vs Seattle Sounders
    Banc of California Stadium (6PM ET)
    REF: Armando Villarreal
    AR1: Cameron Blanchard
    AR2: Chris Elliott
    4TH: Silviu Petrescu
    VAR: Edvin Jurisevic
    AVAR: Jonathan Johnson

    Atlanta United vs Chicago Fire
    Mercedes-Benz Stadium (8PM ET)
    REF: Allen Chapman
    AR1: Eric Weisbrod
    AR2: Jeremy Kieso
    4TH: Sergii Demianchuk
    VAR: Alejandro Mariscal
    AVAR: Ian McKay

    Minnesota United vs Real Salt Lake
    Allianz Field (8PM ET)
    REF: Drew Fischer
    AR1: Logan Brown
    AR2: Cory Richardson
    4TH: Baldomero Toledo
    VAR: Sorin Stoica
    AVAR: Eric Boria

    New England Revolution vs D.C. United
    Gillette Stadium (8PM ET)
    REF: Guido Gonzales Jr
    AR1: Adam Garner
    AR2: Ryan Graves
    4TH: Matt Thompson
    VAR: Jorge Gonzalez
    AVAR: Claudiu Badea

    Philadelphia Union vs Inter Miami
    Subaru Park (8PM ET)
    REF: Alex Chilowicz
    AR1: Corey Parker
    AR2: Diego Blas
    4TH: Rubiel Vazquez
    VAR: Jose Carlos Rivero
    AVAR: Brian Dunn
     
  9. rh89

    rh89 Member

    Sep 29, 2015
    OR
    04/24/21
    Colorado Rapids vs Austin FC
    Dick’s Sporting Goods Park (9PM ET)
    REF: Marcos DeOliveira
    AR1: Jose Da Silva
    AR2: Andrew Bigelow
    4TH: Rosendo Mendoza
    VAR: Malik Badawi
    AVAR: Matthew Nelson

    Portland Timbers vs Houston Dynamo
    Providence Park (10:30PM ET)
    REF: Ismail Elfath
    AR1: Mike Rottersman
    AR2: Jeremy Hanson
    4TH: Ramy Touchan
    VAR: Younes Marrakchi
    AVAR: Joshua Patlak
     
  10. ptref

    ptref Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Aug 5, 2015
    Bowling Green, KY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting to see Brooke Mayo as the 4th official on the Nashville game. She is a FIFA AR. I wonder who would have gone into the middle if the referee had gone down.
     
  11. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might have been the rare event where they gave the whistle to AR1 (Manikowski). They would not have been able to switch in the VAR during halftime as Radford doesn't have to pass the fitness test anymore. Mayo lives in the Nashville area so you can probably read between the lines on the assignment.
     
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  12. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three, right?

    The goal to no-goal at 13'.
    The goal to no-goal at 49'.
    And the no-goal to 79'.

    What is the fourth you're thinking of?

    Just brutally bad luck that all three happened on Nesbitt's end. The second one requires help from Dickerson and he probably just wasn't sure of that last attacker touch. The first one is unlucky--defender moving in the backward direction during the deflection made a very offside attacker look onside if you look half a second late. The third one is probably the only "bad" call but even that was close at two different points.
     
  13. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Idk if the assignment was here but the Galaxy v. NY Red Bull’s was quite a match. 6 goals in total. Chicharito had a hat-trick. 1 goal for Galaxy flagged offside and then reallowed with VAR. Wasn’t sure if the AR made a decision in real time.

    I saw 10 mins put on the board for stoppage time. Plus they played an additional minute on top of that for 11 total minutes. Talk about total playing time.
    To be fair that match had probably 5+ injuries, head injury protocols, substitutions and players cramping (chicharito).
     
  14. incognitoind

    incognitoind Member

    Apr 8, 2015
    Were too far into the VAR experience for people to still be asking if the AR made a decision. There is always an onfield decision. This was flagged as offside so how could the AR have not made a decision?
     
  15. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Week 2 VAR review.

     
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  16. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    I thought this was one of the best of these.
     

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