2020 CONCACAF Men's Olympic Qualifying Championship

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by JohnnyFutbol, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. Dr. Deplorable

    Dr. Deplorable Member+

    Mar 31, 2007
    Kansas
    He barely even plays tf
     
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  2. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    When will the final roster be announced?
     
  3. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    Difficult to go so far as to say it would be a waste, Ochoa has proved on multiple tournaments to rise to the occasion and make game saving saves at the highest level. It’a hard to compare beyond that
     
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  4. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Ugh…

    So it seems Henry, Memo, and Romo will indeed be the 3 backups

    What a waste of two spots. I rather Oribe go than Henry, that’s how much Henry sucks. And no need for Memo when Jurado is there
     
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  5. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Wasn't Oribe also a nobody at the NT level when he was chosen to play with the U23 team? That team had way more prep than our current U23 team though, and in any case just hoping that that exact formula will work again with Henry (just because) seems kind of dumb.
     
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  6. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I don’t think so, pretty sure oribe was scoring goals in bunches and already part of the senior nt.
     
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  7. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    I don’t think he was even part of the gold cup squad in 2011
     
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  8. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    Besides being a good player, Oribe did the whole proceso. He played Copa America and was the overage player in the Pan American games in 2011. He only missed the tournaments he couldn't play like the qualifiers and Toulon.Martin hasn't.

    As for the others about goalkeepers, Mexico has always had an overage keeper except for 2004. In 96 it was Campos, 2012 it was Corona and 2016 it was Talavera. Ochoa is a solid choice and while people here talk about it just being one mistake, it was the same thing with Liborio Sanchez in Toulon and in the end it paid off big time. Malagon is coming from an injury and although he was great with Necaxa, before he wasn't even a regular and he didn't play at all there after getting injured in Guadalajara.
     
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  9. rich loc

    rich loc Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He was lacking in NT experience. According to wiki he only had 14 games for Mexico before 2013. Though he was coming off being a key player in Santos' championship. People forget he was shit until the last 2 games, Raul consistently looked better than him off the bench before that.
     
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  10. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
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    Mar 6, 2002
    He played Copa America and the Pan American championship with that same team. He was almost the starting forward except for the matches in the tournament with no overage players.
     
  11. la fresa

    la fresa Member+

    Oct 31, 2005
    texas
    Club:
    Serbian White Eagles
    I just had to look it up, but it’s funny to think of a guy who is 28 and has 2 goals for the national team being a reinforcement
     
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  12. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    If there was a player that needed to go to the Gold Cup it was Henry Martin, to face CONCACAF countries and see if he's ever going to be useful to the NT. I don't get what he adds to the Olympic team at all. He has never played with most of them and has almost no international experience.
     
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  13. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Maybe making room for Cheech and funes mori in the gc.
     
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  14. superm

    superm Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Problem in taking Henry Martin is the fact that I don’t he’s any better than the younger players that could start there. I would put him below Macias, Gimenez, Aguirre and even Munoz. He’s really not that good
     
  15. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Martin es un bulto

    I don’t get what Lozano sees in him if he’s taking him to the Olympics
     
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  16. AMLO2018

    AMLO2018 Member+

    Mexico
    Jul 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    those Euro sides always C-blocking. Happened @ 2016 & 2012 (thank GOD weve landed Gold there) hypocrite Cholo
     
  17. Dr. Deplorable

    Dr. Deplorable Member+

    Mar 31, 2007
    Kansas
    This team needed something other than just Romo.

    A solid defender and a wing wouldn't have been bad.

    But a gk (no matter how good) and a shit 9 ain't it
     
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  18. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Not feeling good about these overage players, guys. I get Memo after the shit show today but Romo is meh and Martin is a terrible selection.
     
  19. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Romo is a versatile player that can play as a CB or in the mid, plus he’s got physique that some of the current Sub-23 players lack

    I agree that they should bring in another CB, someone like Salcedo or Araujo. Hell, even Moreno wouldn’t be a bad option because the dude is a leader despite missing a step or two from when he was in his prime
     
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  20. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Three and out…
     
  21. revilla18

    revilla18 Member

    Aug 22, 2010
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Wait, so those three players are confirmed ? If they are; then that’s ********ed.... It’s an INTERNATIONAL tournament and that’s are backup ?
    I hope it’s not true.... Vela, Cheech and JDS (playing abroad experience is key in my book for our refuerzos) would of been good.

    Or if not sub out JDS for a defender like Moreno/Araujo/Salcedo or even Edson (Unless he’s picked already as U23)
     
  22. Philip J. Fry

    Philip J. Fry Member+

    Mexico
    Jun 12, 2013
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Edson wouldn't count as an overage guy.
     
  23. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The guy was pretty terrible even with Tijuana.

    He owes his entire career to Piojo seeing ‘something’ in him and bringing him to América. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been surprised to see him in the Ascenso.
     
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  24. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Yeah but Ajax would have to give permission
     
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  25. superm

    superm Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    Moreno looks like crap and super slow. No way should he be taking any young CBS spot. He’s been one of our problems in the back line these past couple games.

    We shouldn’t be taking older players just because of leadership. This is a U23/24 tournament after all. These older guys need to be better to be taking another young players spot. I understand Ochoa and Romo. If Martin goes that’s a waste of a spot. I think the squad is only 22 players and that would mean that only one young striker would be going to Olympics.

    When it comes to CBS, I just hope that Angulo isn’t starting. That would be a mistake with his lack of size especially as a CB. That could be an issue.
     

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