2020 CONCACAF League and 2021 Champions League

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  1. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TBD Stadium.

    I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up in Vegas.
     
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  2. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Monterrey
     
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  3. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2000
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Monterrey
     
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  4. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    The final not 2 legged home and home aggregate any more?
     
  5. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    I can’t keep up with corporate stadium names, is TBD in Charlotte? Why do you think it will get moved to Vegas?
     
  6. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nope
     
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  7. AlbertCamus

    AlbertCamus Member+

    Colorado Rapids
    Sep 2, 2005
    Colorado, USA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    That sucks. You guys are right, another CONCACAF event moved to the USA. It will easier for an MLS team to win, but it won’t be fair.
     
  8. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    No it’s at the home of the team with the best record in the competition. Therefore, Monterrey and not the Azteca.
     
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  9. Is this a one-off or this will be the format going forward?
     
  10. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The single-leg final was described as being a part of this year's tournament. CONCACAF did not say it would become a permanent component:

    https://www.atlutd.com/news/2021-scotiabank-concacaf-champions-league-set-april-kickoff

     
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  11. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welp, it looks like there are some stakes now. Not sure how I feel about this, especially if it means that the US Open Cup Champions League berth is in jeopardy…

     
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  12. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not, relax.
     
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  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  14. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve not seen anything suggesting that it’s not- I mean, let’s just say the top three teams are all American teams from MLS (lol- I get it, that will never happen but still…) and none qualify by other means. Do they just get three extra spots?
     
  15. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The CCL is expanding in 2023. There are a whole bunch more spots. 20 teams from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico are going to be qualifying. These 3 Leagues Cup spots are a relatively small portion.
     
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  16. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks- I just saw there’s a dedicated thread for this so I’m digging in now. In that case, I guess I feel a little better about this going from glorified exhibition to somewhat meaningful.
     
  17. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This breaks it down:

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/concacaf-announces-expanded-champions-league-starting-in-2024

    Round One
    • 4 x MLS clubs
    • 2 x Leagues Cup clubs (runner-up and third-place team)
    • 5 x Liga MX clubs
    • 2 x Canadian Premier League clubs
    • 1 x U.S. Open Cup winner
    • 1 x Canadian Championship winner
    • 5 x Central America Cup clubs (runner-up, two losing semifinalists and two play-in winners)
    • 2 x Caribbean Cup (second-place and third-place finishers)
     
  18. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Thanks for that breakdown. That is different from what they were saying earlier this year.
     
  19. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, they apparently have backed off the plan of having a big regionalized group stage. Now it's back to all knockout, with 5 teams directly in the round of 16 and 22 others playing a preliminary round.
     
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  20. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    There's quite a lot to like there really. I'd be interested to know more about the new cups for Central America and the Caribbean. Getting more best-against-best competition in within those regions is a great idea.
     
  21. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
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  22. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1373 ceezmad, Sep 22, 2021
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2021
    27 total, I doubt 20 will be from North America.




    Then again, this kid of svcks for central American teams.

     
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  24. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I think the smaller Central American club teams definitely got the shaft here; with the old (current) format there was at least one or two higher seeded teams from smaller countries that had a better shot of qualifying to the actual CCL, but with this new format I just feel like they're going to be steamrolled by the bigger clubs in Costa Rica, Honduras and to some extent Panama.
     
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  25. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    They should definitely randomize rather than seed the draw in order to grease the skids a bit for non MLS/MX teams to get deeper into the tournament.

    The MLS vs Liga MX games are basically equally valuable no matter where they fall in the tournament structure anyway, you aren't losing anything.
     

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