2020/21 Off-season Movement Rumors & Speculation

Discussion in 'Philadelphia Union' started by Union42, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Here we go! The MLS Cup playoffs aren't over yet, but the Union's season is! The stakes for Ernst, Chris, & Jim are higher than ever now that we finally have a trophy to defend!
     
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  2. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Creavalle and Wooten are gone. I'm neutral towards Creavalle. He fine as a cheap, bench defensive stopper type. Thank God Wooten and his gigantic hunk of cap space are gone, though! Take that money and find us a ruthless goal scorer, Ernst.
     
  3. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed, but I'd love to know why Wooten didn't work out here. Others with similar levels of success Bundesliga 2 and below have transitioned well into MLS. Not sure if it was a lack of minutes to go around with Santos and Kacper doing so well so he never got a chance to find his legs in this league, or that he was just never going to be a good fit, but still disappointing nevertheless. Looks like he never played or even lived outside of Germany before, so maybe he just never felt quite at home here. Either way, an expensive swing and miss.
     
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  4. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Wooten was basically insurance. He never got a chance because I don't think he had the push you get from Santos so he basically only fit in Kacper's spot. Even tho Kacper had a drought the team was still winning and K was/is cheaper and part of future plans. While we might miss on some signings I feel better knowing we haven't had a "oh shit this guy sucks and we have to pay him a shit ton of money for 2 more years" situation in a while.

    Unless they have some plans at the position or he can't stay healthy anymore I would love to have Creavalle back.
     
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  5. RGRAY55

    RGRAY55 Member

    Philadelphia Union
    Apr 10, 2010
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It semed like Wooten was not the best fit for our system. He was more of a target forward than Santos and Kacper. I feel like Santos is our most dangerous striker when healthy, Kacper is streaky and Burke is reliable. We could use a DP level striker to push the bunch especially adding Champions League games next year.
     
  6. Ascalz

    Ascalz BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 18, 2010
    130
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So with the Expansion draft on Tuesday, who do the Union lose?
     
  7. Billy Zabka

    Billy Zabka Member+

    May 4, 2006
    RoFo, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You can protect 12 players, at least 3 intl’s must be part of the 12 and HGs under 25 are exempt (obviously huge for the Union).

    I would protect:
    Bedoya
    Blake
    Burke (INTL)
    Ilsinho
    Elliott
    Glesnes (INTL)
    Martinez (INTL)
    Monteiro (INTL)
    Santos (INTL)
    Wagner (INTL)

    And then two of: Pryzbylko, Gaddis, Mbaizo (probably the first two but I could see them leaving Gaddis unprotected since it would be unlikely he’s drafted).

    So Mbaizo is the most likely to be drafted if anyone
     
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  8. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I mostly agree, but keep the three on the bottom and don't protect Ilsinho. Nobody is going to take him and he'll probably threaten to retire if picked. The key to the expansion draft is figuring out the players nobody will want, anyway. In the past, this was never a problem for the Union. The roster was filled with them.
     
  9. Billy Zabka

    Billy Zabka Member+

    May 4, 2006
    RoFo, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good call!

    Protected from selection are the following players: Alejandro Bedoya, Andre Blake, Cory Burke, Jack Elliott, Raymon Gaddis, Jakob Glesnes, Jose Martinez, Olivier Mbaizo, Jamiro Monteiro, Kacper Przybylko, Sergio Santos, and Kai Wagner.

    https://www.philadelphiaunion.com/p...ounce-protected-list-2020-mls-expansion-draft
     
  10. Cherry Hill SOB

    Cherry Hill SOB Member+

    Aug 30, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    So Ilshino, Bendik, Collin and Oravec are available right? Would they take a chance on Oravec without seeing him play in MLS?
     
  11. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So much adu about nothing.......
     
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  12. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Union have once again excelled at exposing players in the expansion draft that nobody wants.
     
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  13. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
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  14. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Handsome Pete

    Handsome Pete Member+

    May 16, 2011
    Minneapolis
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Legend.
     
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  16. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    True, but the expansion rules are so easy-going on teams like the Union. Plus those teams only get 5 picks now to begin with.

    If the 2010 Union had today's expansion draft, they would have actually had to spend money like 5 years earlier than they started to.
     
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  17. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  18. WVUPharm2007

    WVUPharm2007 Member+

    Jul 24, 2011
    Montgomery Township, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $6 mil fee plus performance incentives AND sell on clause.

    Aaronson, part II, I guess.
     
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  19. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  20. sentrido

    sentrido Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    If I was a man of such means I would fashion the most eloquent spoon made of the finest silver with BAMF emblazoned on the handle in the finest gilded gold and present it to Ernst Tanner most conspicuously.
     
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  21. Union42

    Union42 Member+

    Jul 29, 2013
    Swarthmore, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No need to tune into the draft this season....

     
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