PBP: 2019 ACC regular season discussion

Discussion in 'Women's College' started by Crazyhorse, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    im saying that AD would have very little input on any kid going pro or not. Both those kids were in the UK system long before they came here.

    sure, but how old are the unc players? Thats not relevant now.

    either the FSU UVA players are better passers or the unc game plan does not require good passing to be successful. Unc play to win. They don’t play good looking soccer and have not for a while.
     
    SuperHyperVenom repped this.
  2. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Well, we'll have to wait for the ACC tourney to get a good read on how their style fairs against ours (UVA/FSU), and vice versa.
    I hopeful, optimistic even, but not sure.
    Now come spring at NCAAT time, UNC may very well look like a champ. They just did not look that way tonight.
     
  3. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    We know how it will look, and we know they will have a very good chance of being the champion. There are no style points in College soccer and they are very effective at doing what they do.
     
  4. Wildcatter

    Wildcatter Member

    Sep 9, 2018
    Big week of games coming up. Still 10 teams alive for the ACC tournament. Looks like it will come down to Pitt, Wake Forest, and Virginia Tech battling for the final spot. That being said if Pitt can pull off a win at either Clemson or Wake Forest then there is a massive log jam in the middle with several teams on 12 points. Going to come down to tie breakers. . . .

    Anyone know what the actual tie breakers are if there are multiple teams tied for a spot?
     
  5. Mojo45

    Mojo45 Member

    Barcelona
    United States
    Aug 17, 2019
    Found this on the ACC website:

    ACC Championship Tiebreakers

    Two-Team Tie

    a. Total points in head-to-head conference game results.
    b. Most wins in overall conference game results among common opponents.
    c. Goal differential (goals scored minus goals allowed) in overall conference game results.
    d. Goals scored in overall conference game results.
    e. Goals allowed in overall conference game results.
    f. Head-to-head conference game results against common opponent(s) occupying the highest position in the standings and continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage. In the case of a tie for first place, the next highest position in the regular-season standings should be used and continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage. When comparing tied teams and arriving at another group of tied teams, use each team’s head-to-head conference game results against the tied teams as a group, prior to the group’s tie-breaking procedures. For example, if Teams A and B have the same results when compared to Team C, then Teams A and B will be compared to Team D. But if Team D is tied with Team E, then Teams A and B will be compared by the results against Teams D and E collectively, not individually.
    g. If a coin flip is required, the procedure takes place immediately following the conclusion of the last regular-season game prior to the conference championship. The procedure is administered by the Commissioner or a designated assistant.

    Three-or-More Team Tie
    In the case of a three-team tie, if any procedure reduces the tie by one team and two teams remain tied, the Two-Team Tie procedure will be followed, comparing only the remaining tied teams. In the case of a tie among more than three teams, if any procedure reduces the tie by at least one team, then the Three-or-More Team Tie procedure will be restarted.
    a. Total points in head-to-head conference game results.
    b. Most wins in head-to-head conference game results.
    c. Goal differential (goals scored minus goals allowed) in overall conference game results.
    d. Goals scored in overall conference game results.
    e. Goals allowed in overall conference game results.
    f. Head-to-head conference game results against common opponent(s) occupying the highest position in the standings and continuing down through the standings until the tie is reduced by one or more teams. In the case of a tie for first place, the next highest position in the regular-season standings should be used and continuing down through the standings until the tie is reduced by one or more teams. When comparing tied teams and arriving at another group of tied teams, use each team’s head-to-head conference game results against the tied teams as a group, prior to the group’s tie-breaking procedures. For example, if Teams A, B and C have the same results when compared to Team D, then Teams A, B and C will be compared to Team E. But if Team E is tied with Team F, then Teams A, B and C will be compared by the results against Teams E and F collectively, not individually.
     
    cpthomas repped this.
  6. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Looking forward to reading the post regular season recaps from the various fans. As I watch the FSU Clemson game i have one wish. Can we stop calling persistent fouling "competing" ?

    Thanks ;)
     
  7. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    At least you can watch it. It's blacked out for me.
    I should be able to watch it on replay.
     
  8. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
  9. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    [​IMG]

    Barring upsets the 1st round game between Duke and Clemson should be good.
    The 2nd round jewel should be UVA and UNC, followed closely by FSU versus Duke or CU. We always expect the finals to be a doozy.
     
  10. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Even bigger advantage than usual to UNC. Fully expect them to win.
     
  11. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    How do you figure?
     
  12. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    ESPN+. It's $5/month.
     
  13. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Being on the road for potentially 5 days or more in CoVid cant be fun.
     
  14. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    It was blacked out there in many places. Hence the VPN comment.
     
  15. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    That's true! That's the way it was before Mark took a stand several years ago.
    It is what it is.
     
  16. Eddie K

    Eddie K Member+

    May 5, 2007
    I don't think I'll see these games until the Final. Looked for UNC-ND on Sunday but on my ESPN+, it won't show since I have comcast and I can't just pay for ACCN via ESPN+, even on my phone. I understand and actually support Comcast not wanting to pay for ACCN, but why aren't they selling ACCN directly?

    If there's a direct ACCN Stream or workaround to get these games please share. Other then paying for an entirely additional service I don't want. And watching in a public place or with neighbors is not really a good option these days.
     
  17. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
  18. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018


    Very interesting to look at advanced metrics without W/L record. Gives another layer to the picture. Taking a look at the shot numbers, UVA have more of a shot selection problem. Also shows you the importance of set pieces.
     
    Val1 repped this.
  19. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    I don't think Duke is far behind the top 3. Like UVA, they need to have a better conversion rate.
     
  20. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    Statistically they are a long way behind offensively. They do not create enough chances for conversion rate to matter. Look at xG differential.
     
  21. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    TDS got the rankings a lot better than United Soccer.
    The SEC Tournament is the final round of games in the women’s Division I fall season. Check out the penultimate edition of the Power Rankings (one more will be released next week with light updates).


    1. Florida State (11-0-0)

    FSU closes out the fall season as the ACC tournament champions, and the top team in the power rankings.

    2. North Carolina (11-1-0)

    While the final score was 3-2, it was a mountain to climb for the Tar Heels after going down 3-0. The team will look to bounce back in the spring season.

    3. Texas A&M (8-1-0)

    Another big game from Jimena Lopez propelled the Aggies into the SEC semifinals. The Aggies have what it takes to run the table heading into a tough matchup against Vanderbilt on Thursday.

    4. Virginia (8-3-1)

    The offense couldn’t get going against the Tar Heels, and the chances of an ACC semifinal win dwindled when UVA conceded a penalty late in the first half. There are plenty of positives and a few areas to improve upon in the spring.

    5. Arkansas (8-1-0)

    It was a wild game on Tuesday at the SEC tournament, with the Razorbacks scoring four goals in 14 minutes, just holding on for a 4-3 win. They’ll look to push for the tournament title as the week progresses.

    6. TCU (8-0-1)

    TCU gets to sit here in the final rankings with the Big 12 season completed. It was an impressive season for the Horned Frogs, and they’ll hope the momentum carries over into a potential spring campaign.

    7. Duke (7-4-2)

    A loss at the hands of Florida State in the ACC semifinals saw Duke’s fall campaign come to an end. Sophie Jones was a big bright spot once again, and will be a key player for the Blue Devils when competition resumes next.

    8. West Virginia (7-2-0)

    A final regular season loss on the road at TCU is no shame, even if it was a missed chance for West Virginia to return to the summit of the Big 12. Regardless, it’s been a positive season pandemic-aside, given the in conference strides they’ve shown.

    9. South Carolina (7-2-0)

    The future looks pretty bright for the Gamecocks, no matter what happens at the SEC tournament. Catherine Barry’s proven that her goal-scoring ability can translate from the club level, and she’ll be a key fixture in the coming years for the team’s attack.

    10. Vanderbilt (6-4-0)

    An offensive outburst in the SEC Tournament quarterfinals propelled the Commodores past in-state rivals Tennessee.
     
  22. Tom81

    Tom81 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
  23. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018
    No possible justification for placing ACC teams in any order other than the one they finished the reg season in. Just like player awards, no one has to justify their picks so it is what it is.
     
  24. Number007

    Number007 Member

    Santos FC
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2018

Share This Page