2019/20 off season thread

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by kokoplus10, Oct 20, 2019.

  1. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    The biggest problem is the mandate from RBAG, buy young. It's a crapshoot finding young talent that can start right away, let alone within the constraints of MLS and without breaking the bank.
     
  2. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Start scouring the U23 of African and SA and CCAF national teams.
     
  3. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  4. Night shift

    Night shift Member

    Mar 23, 2015
    sec 201
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    So far this off season, MLS has awarded more expansion teams than RB has signed players. But hey, safe standing lol
     
  5. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're putting in safe standing?
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
  8. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh god. Nothing against Ryan but he's nowhere near the class of Robles, or the class of keeper we need to be competitive. If he's our new #1, maybe he'll prove me wrong.

    I'm really bummed they cast off Robles. I think that's a big mistake. I'm taking that harder than any other player we've ever let go or who's left.
     
  9. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    The unceremonious dumping of Robles and BWP has left a bad taste in my mouth.
     
  10. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    It's the Red Bull way. There's no animosity in it, but they don't rest much on sentimentality.

    Meara is good. He'll need a half season to really acclimate, but he was the #1 before getting hurt opened the door to Robles.
     
  11. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  12. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    FWIW, it looks like RBII should be pretty good this year.
     
  13. coachd24

    coachd24 Member

    Feb 22, 2013
    Club:
    RC Lens
    Underwhelming to say the least. Lose 2 faces of the franchise in BWP and Robles and replace them with no one. MLS is still a league where you need a name for people to show to the games and we don't have any of that. A.Long will be shipped off to Europe in the summer and we'll be left with Kaku and a bunch of homegrown guys. Hopefully we bring in another DP before the season begins.
     
  14. Zamphyr

    Zamphyr Member

    Mar 31, 2003
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone hearing anything about Brian Saramago ?

    We drafted his Loyola setup partner, Barry Sharifi today. Tough to imagine they don't sign the HG.
     
  15. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  17. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    The window is still a ways off from closing. They've been quiet so far, but may yet provide some pleasant surprises. Management has to know they are down at least one DP-level talent, with only Kaku in that category. If they don't address the need before the season starts, it's going to be on Hamlet and Armas for falling off the pace. RB AG may be holding them back. It won't mean much for the fan base. This league is no longer one where teams can skip signing at least 2 or 3 high level talents.
     
  18. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
  20. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Evidently, there's a plan.
     
  21. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great, while they're getting rid of many of our best players, especially in defense (do we still have A.Long??)...

    how do they expect us to keep wanting to come watch at RBA?
     
  22. coachd24

    coachd24 Member

    Feb 22, 2013
    Club:
    RC Lens
    I think we're seeing one of the drawbacks of MLS with RB's planning this year. There's no fear of relegation and they're entitled to all of the TV rights regardless of where they finish. We also might have the first MLS Starting XI to all play for the reserve team at some point this season. Really disappointed with ownership on how they went about this offseason
     
    NorthBank repped this.
  23. Woodrow

    Woodrow Member+

    Dec 7, 2001
    Brick City
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    My first reaction upon seeing the news about Lawrence was not surprise, but bitter disappointment. Maybe they are trying to fully depreciate the RBNY asset, and sell it for a tax write-off. But in the cold light of morning, perhaps there are some other possibilities. Without lending any shine to the shit pile, I'm just trying to suss out what they may be thinking. What was true even a few years ago is certainly not true now. Gone are the days when Ali Curtis and Damiani Ralph were collaborating to bring in players from the Caribbean and Latin America. And Bob Montgomery was out a year ago, but there is now a new academy director, as well as in house scout who seems to have more connections around the world. What bothers me the most is the disconnect. The hiccups tend to be big ones. It doesn't help that some of their identified players have missed so badly, Derrick Etienne, Jr. seems the most glaring one. If he had raised his game to even a good MLS level it would have made a huge difference. But, the mandate from AG largely eschews the sugar high of buying 28-32 year old foreign vets. It's just hard to field a team that is competitive and interesting, at least in the short run.

    Players coming through the system from the Academy and RB2 are going to have chances to move up. It's just those players tend to be more miss than hit, that is the nature of the pyramid. What is of more concern is having enough quality in the system to boost those efforts. A player like Jorgensen has a big opportunity to see time alongside or ahead of Brian White, and if he brings a high level performance, then everyone looks like a genius for parting with BWP. I just don't have much optimism for the second team if it is mostly stocked with college draft picks. There's a report of the club bringing Caden Clark, a Minnesota native who was recently at the Barca Academy, presumably with an eye to put him on the second team. But they need six of these guys, or it is just hit and miss. If they have six college players, they need six American youth prospects, and another six from the hemisphere. The other problem here is it's going to take 2-3 years for enough of these players to have succeeded to field a team of Red Bull guys.
     
  24. coachd24

    coachd24 Member

    Feb 22, 2013
    Club:
    RC Lens
    After watching the USMNT yesterday I think we also need to take a look at our academy system as well. I think with an emphasis on youth, we're not producing the quality of player we should, while FC Dallas and LAG keep producing USMNT prospects (I get that we had Adams/Gloster and technically Weah too). I understand that we want to build a young team but if we're going to go that route then lets go all in on getting the best NJ/NY prospects into the club.
     

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