Pre-match: 2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League: USA vs Cuba, November 19th

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  1. Bilgediver

    Bilgediver Member+

    LA Galaxy
    Oct 16, 2013
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Against bunkering teams Zardes is better out wide. JK used him there a few times and he was a help more than a hindrance.
     
  2. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    Our articles were vague but Canadian reporting of the site choice suggests it was the lighting/TV issue:

    "The CONCACAF Nations League match between Cuba and Canada will not be played in Havana, Cuba because the Pedro Marrero Stadium does not meet the minimum requirements set by CONCACAF to host a League A match..."
     
  3. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    i think the "but we should obviously win this" comparisons to TnT don't help when you think about a soccer game in practical terms. a 0-0 tie is 90 minutes of hell. even if you win, the US beat Cuba 2-0 last time. we didn't score a goal until the 62nd minute. on the scoresheet that shows up as 2-0 and like it should be. in practical terms that's a nailbiter for 62' to get the lead at all and then ~70' to get 2 up. i remember horvath making big saves. it only looks assured and cushy after the fact. this isn't basketball, it's not 50-38 at half time. we can hope they jump on them again, but we don't know til we put them on the board.

    think curacao. this is always a possibility.
     
  4. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Any word on starting line up?
     
  6. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #106 ArsenalMetro, Nov 19, 2019
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  7. CU soccer

    CU soccer Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Panama City Beach
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Roldan! Yes! Now if only Trapp and Zardes were in the starting 11.
     
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  8. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Well, if we're trying to lose, that's one way to do it.

    Why would Roldan and Lovitz get starts? I can almost understand Lovitz, since Brooks, McKennie and Dest perhaps want to stay fresh for club play.

    But Roldan over Morales I do not get at all. It's "just" Cuba, but this is screaming to get upset.
     
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  9. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only 4 new starters from the Canada game. I was expecting a bit more rotation than that.
     
  10. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Cannon, or Lima, but hey, Lovitz will now qualify for a work permit and get the prestige/showcase for a Euro club. Any takers? Maybe Rochdale or Chemnitzer will come in with a bid for Nashville so they can make the profit on the 100k they just paid to acquire him from Montreal.

    If Gregg doesn't at least sub in Cannon tonight w/ a multi-goal lead, they don't want him to leave MLS, full stop.
     
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  11. la torre

    la torre Member+

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't Cannon need this game to qualify for a work permit? Jesus.
     
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  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    He needs to appear, unless the US cracks the FIFA top 20 by January.
     
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  13. la torre

    la torre Member+

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ah, ok gotcha. Fingers crossed he appears.
     
  14. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gregg on (paraphrasing):

    Pomykal: "you need to challenge yourself in Europe to play for me"

    Cannon: "you can play for me up until you'd have a chance to challenge yourself in Europe but now won't be able to"

    Lovitz: "you don't need to challenge yourself in Europe because you'll never be good enough so you always have a spot with me".
     
  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    really disappointed to see Sargent in this mess.\

    Tonight’s USMNT Starting XI vs. Cuba: 1-Brad Guzan, 2-DeAndre Yedlin, 3-Aaron Long, 7-Paul Arriola, 8-Weston McKennie, 10-Cristian Roldan, 11-Jordan Morris, 13-Tim Ream (capt.), 14-Jackson Yueill, 16-Daniel Lovitz,19-Josh Sargent
     
  16. Marius Tresor

    Marius Tresor Member+

    Aug 1, 2014
    That confirms Berhalter's LB depth chart:
    1. Ream
    2. Lovitz
     
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  17. jond

    jond Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Levski Sofia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does Cannon have Prem interest?

    Caps don’t matter on the continent.
     
  18. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Don't worry Lovitz is there.
     
  19. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I'm surprised CP didn't go just to offshore some Chelski money TBH.

    I think this was a missed opportunity for the club.
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    One interested Premier League team, one in the Championship, per a report from The Athletic last week.
     
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  21. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is Lovitz starting... serious why... can anyone explain this?
     
  22. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    This is the table I've seen:

    Official FIFA Ranking Required % of international matches in past 2 yrs
    FIFA 1-10 30% and above
    FIFA 11-20 45% and above
    FIFA 21-30 60% and above
    FIFA 31-50 75% and above

    from here: https://www.inbrief.co.uk/football-law/footballer-work-permits/

    At which point he'd already be qualified since, barring a loss (and maybe even then), we're going to finish in the Top 30.

    It could be an old link, but I haven't seen anything contradictory. Apparently until 2015, the number was 75% across the board.
     
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  23. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No ********ing idea!!!
     
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  24. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I can only imagine that Dest and Brooks were basically promised to only play one game ... leaving Ream to slide to CM.

    Now why he's on the roster? I dunno.
     
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