2019-20 CONCACAF Nations League Thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Is it a Final Four? I thought I heard the semi was home and away. Most likely the Final will be in the Rose Bowl for the $$.
     
  2. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Where did you hear that? The games have to fit in the same FIFA window, so there's no time for home-and-away semis (as awesome as that would be).
     
  3. schrutebuck

    schrutebuck Member+

    Jul 26, 2007
    Hopefully CONCACAF takes this opportunity to stick the final phase of the 2019-20 Nations League outside the U.S. Awarding the semifinals to the top seeds (presumably Mexico and Honduras) would be best, but a neutral site elsewhere in CONCACAF would also be fine.

    Let's see how the team fares outside the country against opponents more challenging than Canada and Cuba, as the U.S. only played those two national teams in non-home matches in 2019.
     
  4. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Bermuda is 5 minutes away from tying Mexico in Toluca
     
  5. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    This thing is obviously going to be played in the US, but I'd raise two points.

    1) If the host was going to be based on results, that should have been announced when the competition was.

    2) What neutral location is available that is going to have anyone attend with a final four of Mexico, the United States, Costa Rica, and Honduras?

    Anyway, ******** Mexico for always pulling this heartbreaking shit when they don't deserve it. Great effort, Bermuda.
     
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  6. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Awww Mexico gets the stoppage time winner. Panama were nearly relegated
     
  7. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #157 Sebsasour, Nov 19, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
    League A:

    Mexico, USA, Honduras, and Costa Rica have won their groups. Mexico will play Costa Rica in the semis and The USMNT will play Honduras. All 4 have qualified for 2021 The Gold Cup

    Canada, Martinique, Curacao, and Panama will stay in League A as well as qualify for the Gold Cup

    Cuba, Bermuda, Haiti, and Trinidad and Tobago have been relegated. All 4 will need to win a 2 legged playoff to qualify for The Gold Cup

    League B:

    Grenada, El Salvador, Jamaica, and Suriname have won promotion and have qualified for The Gold Cup

    French Guiana, Montserrat, Guyana, and St. Vincent and The Grenadines will stay in League B, but can still qualify for The Gold Cup if they win 2, 2 legged playoffs.

    Belize, Dominican Republic, Antigua and Barbuda, Nicaragua will stay in League B but can not qualify for The Gold Cup

    St. Kitts and Nevis, St. Lucia, Dominica, and Aruba will be relegated to League C. None of them can qualify for The Gold Cup.

    League C:

    Cayman Islands, Guatemala, Bahamas, and Guadeloupe have been promoted to League B and can qualify for The Gold Cup if they win 2, 2 legged playoffs.

    Barbados, St. Martin, U.S Virgin Islands, Bonaire, British Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, Anguilla, Turks and Caicos Islands, and Sint Maarten will remain in League C. They can not qualify for The Gold Cup.
     
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  8. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    The June break runs June 1 - July 12. Plenty of time.
     
  9. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    yep definitely just a final four setup. 2 semis, a final, and a 3rd place game. No home/away. Games almost certainly to be in US. These will all factor into FIFA rankings for June in which the WCQ draw/seedings will be taken from.
     
  10. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Too bad. The only point of this tournament was to get experience playing in Central America and we are not going to do it.
     
  11. wixson7

    wixson7 Member+

    May 12, 2009
    boulder
    yep, last night was really all we got for that... the next time will be for full WCQ in Sept.
     
  12. um_chili

    um_chili Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    Losanjealous
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In theory we could schedule friendlies abroad in Central America. I realize the CNL was supposed to replace some friendlies, but not all of them right? That said, I can't recall us scheduling exhibitions against Concacaf teams anyplace but the US, and given the financial incentives at play it's hard to see that changing. And with UEFA also doing a Nations League it's going to be tougher to find space in their schedule for friendlies away.
     
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  13. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A reminder that CNL isn't really designed for the big teams in CONCACAF:



    Bermuda led Mexico for about 20 minutes and was only beaten by an added time goal.
     
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  15. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wrong - it is only 1 to 9 June. To use the rest of the month, you have to have gotten your tournament on the FIFA Calendar.
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mexico almost dropped points to Bermuda, at home.

    Fire Tata!

    Seriously though, it is nice to see the smaller nations get some run. Bermuda, Curacao, and Haiti were all very respectable in League A.

    And Montserrat staying up in League B was cool.
     
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  17. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curacao are a team to watch to be honest... their ascent over the last couple of years has been amazing. They played here in Doha vs the soon-to-be Asian champs Qatar and won! Then the performance in the Gold Cup.. if FIFA / Concacaf hadn't royally screwed up the qualification hex-semifinals, they might have had an outside shot of making the hex...
     
  18. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based off eloratings, the highest moving nations over the past year...

    1. Grenada +142
    2. Montserrat +132
    3. Mexico +117
    3. Bermuda +117
    5. St. Vincent / Grenadines +99
    6. Curaco +80

    Curacao are ranked over 200 pts behind Canada in elo but in FIFA rankings, they're just 16 behind. Could make a jump to the top 6 if they keep up the hot streak.
     
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  19. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think both Semifinals and the Final will be in the same country. Playing in different countries could give the Finalists unequal travel. For example, if one Semifinal was at MetLife Stadium in NJ, one Semifinal was in Mexico or Central America, and the Final was in Texas or Los Angeles, the Semifinal winner from NJ would have a longer flight.
     
  20. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Perhaps, but assuming we get the NJ game, we could make up for the longer flight distance by stalling our opponents in immigration and customs, and excluding their coach and/or a couple of key players. Problem solved!
     
  21. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Suriname is about to make a Curaco-esque leap for roughly the same reasons.
     
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  22. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    If Suriname gets any better we'll have to foist them upon CONMEBOL.
     
  23. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's not a coincidence, last November Suriname changed its nationalization policies to allow "sports-passports" for Dutch footballers with Surinamese heritage... not sure if Curacao did a similar thing but both Dutch-speaking nations are rising simultaneously while Dutch football is enjoying some sort of a renaissance in Europe too.....
     
  24. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jul 8, 2017
    Toronto or Vancouver?
     
  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guess we should be thankful Dest didn't have the Suriname Fed sniffing around.
     
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