News: 2018 CONCACAF Champions League Draw

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by JasonMa, Nov 29, 2017.

  1. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Details are posted:
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    Colorado, rightfully, gets the short end of the stick and will be the odd team out of the MLS/Liga MX teams to go into Pot B.
     
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  2. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How were the pots determined?
     
  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Click the link in the tweet:

    Further details:
    http://www.concacaf.com/wp-content/...or-the-2018-Champions-League-Draw_BRANDED.pdf
     
  4. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One question for the Rapids would be whether they are going to open camp a bit early to get ready for their opponent, if they get a Mexican team as is 80% likely. The Mexican clausura starts about a week or two into January. The Champions League games start in the latter part of February. I would hope the Rapids would take this seriously and get to work. This could set their season off in the right direction ... or not.
     
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  6. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    Glad that the Canadian entry has been moved into Pot 1 finally. Considering that those teams have made at least the Quarterfinals the last few years...
     
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  7. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kind of strange that they have an index for each particular slot rather than each country. So USA3 is the highest ranked USA slot, while USA1 and USA2 are at risk of being relegated to Pot 2 with a bad showing in this tournament.
     
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  8. Totoro

    Totoro Member+

    Dec 3, 2009
    Colorado

    Well, they just hired a coach. They're all set!
     
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  9. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    CONCACAF is mind-numbingly stupid.
     
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  10. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per the article in the Denver Post about the Hudson hiring, the CBA prevents them from opening camp until Jan 22nd. They will open on the 22nd and then leave for Casa Grande on the 24th for an intense camp to prep for the CCL. They will also participate in the Desert Diamond Cup but they will use a split squad for that should the timing overlap with the CCL.
     
  11. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pesky CBA.
     
  12. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looking at it a bit more, the best results for USA1 and USA2--the semifinal runs by LA and Seattle in 2013--are due to go off the board next year, so Seattle and Dallas must do quite well this year to avoid one or both of those slots falling into Pot 2. And there's no longer a group stage to rack up a bunch of wins, which are the most significant factor in the formula.
     
  13. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    So, that means that USA2, the SS winner, could end up in pot 2 next edition? or does the USSF determine which achievement gets you which position?
     
  14. dinamo_zagreb

    dinamo_zagreb Member+

    Jun 27, 2010
    San Jose, CA / Zagreb, Croatia
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    Wow. So they are awarding points to slots. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: How on earth did they got to this? So basically e.g. Seattle could win three CLs in a row, but instead of huge coefficient that they earned for themselves they could get points earned by slot that was occupied by teams that lost all of their matches.
     
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  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The next edition is already going to be strange with the US teams being the two MLS Cup winners and two US Open cup winners from 2017 and 2018. Backfilling to replace double winners or Canadian teams will be according to two-year combined regular season points.
     
  16. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like it's in order MLS Cup winner, SS winner, other conference winner, USOC winner. Though the 2019 seedings will probably be '18 MLS Cup, '17 MLS Cup, '18 USOC, '17 USOC or something similar
     
  17. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And no players will be in Camp Cupcake fitness either.
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I bet that they change the rules if that were to happen, concacaf has $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ reasons.
     
  19. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure there's much money at stake over which MLS team ends up in Pot 2.
     
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  20. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Doesn't really practically change anything either, except that it means more MLS/Liga MX matches early on. If anything, having those slots drop to Pot 2 means more money for CONCACAF.
     
  21. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I have no problem with it. I said at the time that CONCACAF separated Mexican and American teams for the group stage that it would worsen the tournament. And to me, it did exactly that. Let them meet whenever.
     
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  22. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's going to be one MLS team in Pot 2 no matter what (either one of the USA slots or the CAN slot). They've created a stupid system to determine which one it is, but that's not really a money issue.
     
  23. Nico Limmat

    Nico Limmat Member+

    Oct 24, 1999
    Dubai, UAE
    Club:
    Grasshopper Club Zürich
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Winner gets to play in the 2018 FIFA Club World Cup in the UAE.

    The 2017 edition is also in the UAE. Pachuca (and Omar Gonzalez) are about to take on Wydad Casablanca in Abu Dhabi.
     
  24. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    So who gets TFC's MLS Cup spot?
     
  25. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Highest cumulative regular season point total for an American team between 2017 and 2018.
     

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