2017 Gold Cup (R)

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Kingston, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
    The groups and schedules are out:

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/...es-complete-groups-and-schedule-2017-gold-cup

    We are in with French Guiana, Costa Rica, and, of course, Honduras.

    We play FG first, CR second, and, of course in the final group game that will likely decide whether we advance, Honduras.

    I'm guessing this is the time we take Honduras down. (That said, I'd still rather we had been drawn with someone else even if only for the sake of variety.)
     
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  2. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    A bit of a shame that none of our games are reasonably close to the border, but then again, the only city on the list that was close was Cleveland. Still, we can hopefully get a decent road contingent in the first match since it's still a reasonable distance from both Toronto and Montreal.

    Annoyed that we have to face Honduras yet again, though I'd still rather face them than Panama.

    Let's hope we can improve on 2015's campaign, and score 1 goal...
     
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  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    ugh really? both Honduras and Costa Rica while US and Mexico get easier groups.
     
  4. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    We're not in the same pot as the US and Mexico. Costa Rica is the third in that pot, the reason being that they are the three highest ranked teams in CONCACAF.

    We've got an easier group that last time. In 2015 we had two teams to compete with for second in the group, this time we really only have Honduras to battle for that spot (Cinderella stories aside that is).
     
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  5. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #5 Polygong, Mar 7, 2017
    Last edited: Jul 20, 2017
    I'll use this post as the tournament summary post. Will update as we go along.

    Canada's Matches


    Date
    RoundOpponentVenueResult
    7 JuL 2015GR AFrench GuianaHarrison, NJ W 4-2
    11 Jul 2015GR ACosta RicaHouston, TXD 1-1
    14 Jul 2015GR AHondurasFrisco TX D 0-0
    20 Jul 2015QF Jamaica Glendale L 2-1


    Group A Table

    TEAM
    GPPWDLGFGAGD
    Costa Rica3721051+4
    Canada3513053+2
    Honduras3411131+2
    French Guiana30003210-8


    Squad (Thanks to Robert Borden for supplying)

    GK- Maxime Crépeau | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    GK- Jayson Leutwiler | ENG / Shrewsbury Town FC
    GK- Milan Borjan | POL / MKS Korona Kielce
    FB- Fraser Aird | / Unattached
    FB- Samuel Adekugbe | ENG / Brighton Hove & Albion
    FB- Marcel de Jong | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    CB- Manjrekar James | HUN / Vasas Budapest
    CB- Steven Vitória | POL / Lechia Gdańsk
    CB- Dejan Jaković | USA / New York Cosmos
    CB- Adam Straith | CAN / FC Edmonton
    M- Samuel Piette | ESP / CD Izarra
    M- Russell Teibert | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Scott Arfield | ENG / Burnley FC
    M- David Junior Hoilett | WAL / Cardiff City FC
    M- Alphonso Davies | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Mark-Anthony Kaye | USA / Louisville City FC
    M- Anthony Jackson-Hamel | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Patrice Bernier | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Raheem Edwards | CAN / Toronto FC*
    M- Michael Petrasso | ENG / Queens Park Rangers
    F- Tosaint Ricketts | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Lucas Cavallini | URU / CA Peñarol
    F - Cyle Larin | USA / Orlando City SC*

    *Larin joined the squad for the quarterfinals, Edwards removed from squad to make room for Larin.
     
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  6. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Interesting fact: the last two match dates are the same as for 2015, and we played in Houston on 11 Jul that year as well.
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  8. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I totally agree (and am on record elsewhere on this forum as being so :D ).

    One way would be instead of filling one spot with a playoff between the fifth place Central American and Caribbean teams, fill two final spots based on a three team round robin between those two teams and the third ranked North American team (which barring any real bizarre circumstances, will be us).

    Of course, the problem with this is that we won't be facing teams of any real strength, so even though they'd be competitive matches they still probably wouldn't go far toward the goal of what's stated in the article.
     
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  9. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Canada Soccer releases 40-man Provisional List for CONCACAF Gold Cup
    http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-...-list-for-concacaf-gold-cup-p160880-preview-1

    CANADA’S 40-MAN PROVISIONAL LIST
    GK- Milan Borjan | POL / MKS Korona Kielce
    GK- Maxime Crépeau | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    GK- Jayson Leutwiler | ENG / Shrewsbury Town FC
    GK- Simon Thomas | NOR / FK Bodø/Glimt
    CB- Dejan Jaković | USA / New York Cosmos
    CB- Manjrekar James | HUN / Vasas Budapest
    CB- Milovan Kapor | SVK / FC ViOn Zlaté Moravce
    CB- Wandrille Lefèvre | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    CB- Adam Straith | CAN / FC Edmonton
    CB- Steven Vitória | POL / Lechia Gdańsk
    FB- Samuel Adekugbe | ENG / Brighton Hove & Albion
    FB- Juan Córdova | CHI / CD Huachipato
    FB- Marcel de Jong | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    FB- Andrés Fresenga | URU / Cerro Largo FC
    FB- Nik Ledgerwood | CAN / FC Edmonton
    FB- Tyler Pasher | USA / Sporting Kansas City
    M- Fraser Aird | Unattached
    M- Tesho Akindele | USA / FC Dallas
    M- Scott Arfield | ENG / Burnley FC
    M- Kwame Awuah | USA / New York City FC
    M - Patrice Bernier | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Marco Bustos | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- David Choinière | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Alphonso Davies | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Raheem Edwards | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Kianz Froese | GER / Fortuna Düsseldorf
    M- Nicolas Galvis | Unattached
    M- David Junior Hoilett | WAL / Cardiff City FC
    M- Will Johnson | USA / Orlando City SC
    M- Mark-Anthony Kaye | USA / Louisville City FC
    M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Michael Petrasso | ENG / Queens Park Rangers
    M- Samuel Piette | ESP / CD Izarra
    M- Tosaint Ricketts | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Russell Teibert | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    F- Lucas Cavallini | URU / CA Peñarol
    F- Marcus Haber | SCO / Dundee FC
    F- Anthony Jackson-Hamel | CAN / Impact Montréal
    F- Simeon Jackson | ENG / Walsall FC
    F- Cyle Larin | USA / Orlando City SC
     
  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
     
  12. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
  13. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Too bad we couldn`t get Tabla for this tournament. Still hoping Bryan Cristante (Serie A Atalanta) will commit to Canada. That would elevate the quality of the club by a lot
     
  14. adrenaline11

    adrenaline11 Member+

    Jul 29, 2010
    Toronto
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    No Atiba though. I really wanted to see him and Bernier at midfield at the same time in a tournament.
     
  15. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. DavemTFC

    DavemTFC Member

    Apr 4, 2012
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/soccer/mls...arin-arrested-drunk-driving-florida-1.4162090

    This was a few days ago, but just reposting in case anyone hasnt seen it.

    I think it's safe to assume he won't be at the Gold Cup and if he is I'll be more than disappointed in the CSA. DUI's are a big deal, I hope he's out from all competitions until MLS clears him to play and Larin has, hopefully, had some time to truly reflect on his actions and how lucky he is to not be in bigger trouble
     
  17. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
  18. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    The only good news there is that he hasn't been a key player for us, despite his great performance in MLS. Would have been great for him to get some competitive experience in this tournament, but he's young and there'll be more opportunity down the road
     
  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    That's good for Jackson-Hamel...who actually scores
     
  20. Kingston

    Kingston Member+

    Oct 6, 2005
  21. Initial B

    Initial B Member

    Jan 29, 2014
    Club:
    Ottawa Fury
    I think it's too late for the 23-man roster, but if Canada makes it beyond group stage (which is doubtful) I suppose he could join up at that time since he was on the 40 man provisional roster.
     
  22. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I wouldn't say that it's doubtful that we'll make it past the group stage. A win over French Guiana will likely be enough, and a draw or better against Honduras is a distinct possibility.

    We're only carrying two forwards on the 23-man squad. I'm wondering if that was intentional for Larin's sake.
     
  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-selects-dynamic-squad-for-2017-concacaf-gold-cup-p160970

    CANADA
    GK- Maxime Crépeau | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    GK- Jayson Leutwiler | ENG / Shrewsbury Town FC
    GK- Milan Borjan | POL / MKS Korona Kielce
    FB- Fraser Aird | / Unattached
    FB- Samuel Adekugbe | ENG / Brighton Hove & Albion
    FB- Marcel de Jong | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    CB- Manjrekar James | HUN / Vasas Budapest
    CB- Steven Vitória | POL / Lechia Gdańsk
    CB- Dejan Jaković | USA / New York Cosmos
    CB- Adam Straith | CAN / FC Edmonton
    M- Samuel Piette | ESP / CD Izarra
    M- Russell Teibert | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Scott Arfield | ENG / Burnley FC
    M- David Junior Hoilett | WAL / Cardiff City FC
    M- Alphonso Davies | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Jonathan Osorio | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Mark-Anthony Kaye | USA / Louisville City FC
    M- Anthony Jackson-Hamel | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Patrice Bernier | CAN / Impact Montréal FC
    M- Raheem Edwards | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Michael Petrasso | ENG / Queens Park Rangers
    F- Tosaint Ricketts | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Lucas Cavallini | URU / CA Peñarol

    CANADA A-Z
    Name | Birthyear | Age | City in which he grew up | First/active start in soccer
    Adekugbe, Samuel | 1995 | 22 | Calgary, AB, CAN | Manchester United Grassroots
    Aird, Fraser | 1995 | 22 | Scarborough, ON, CAN | North Scarborough SC
    Arfield, Scott | 1988 | 28 | Livingston, SCO |
    Bernier, Patrice | 1979 | 37 | Brossard, QC, CAN |
    Borjan, Milan | 1987 | 29 | Hamilton, ON, CAN | Radnicki JP
    Cavallini, Lucas | 1992 | 24 | Mississauga, ON, CAN | Club Uruguay Toronto
    Crépeau, Maxime | 1994 | 23 | Candiac, QC, CAN | Ligue de soccer pour enfants de Candiac
    Davies, Alphonso | 2000 | 16 | Edmonton, AB, CAN |
    de Jong, Marcel | 1986 | 30 | Valkenswaard, NED | De Valk
    Edwards, Raheem | 1995 | 22 | Toronto, ON, CAN | Erin Mills SC
    Hoilett, David Junior | 1990 | 27 | Brampton, ON, CAN | Mississauga SC
    Jackson-Hamel, Anthony | 1993 | 23 | Québec, QC, CAN | Impact Junior ARS Québec
    Jaković, Dejan | 1985 | 32 | Etobicoke, ON, CAN | Kingsview
    James, Manjrekar | 1993 | 23 | North York, ON, CAN | North York Azzuri
    Kaye, Mark-Anthony | 1994 | 22 | Toronto, ON, CAN | Wexford SC
    Leutwiler, Jayson | 1989 | 28 | Neuchâtel, SUI | FC Cornaux
    Osorio, Jonathan | 1992 | 25 | Brampton, ON, CAN | Toronto Futsal League
    Petrasso, Michael | 1995 | 22 | Woodbridge, ON, CAN | Kleinburg SC
    Piette, Samuel | 1994 | 22 | Le Gardeur, QC, CAN | Lionceaux de le Gardeur
    Ricketts, Tosaint | 1987 | 29 | Edmonton, AB, CAN | Edmonton Juventus
    Straith, Adam | 1990 | 26 | Victoria, BC, CAN | Bays United SC
    Teibert, Russell | 1992 | 24 | Niagara Falls, ON, CAN | Niagara Falls SC
    Vitória, Steven | 1987 | 30 | Mississauga, ON, CAN | Sudbury Lions
     
  24. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Cavallini is better in my opinion. He plays in a tougher league that produced Edison Cavani and Luis Suarez and he scores at that level. He's only 24. I need a break from Larin missing all those open nets for Canada.
     
  25. Polygong

    Polygong Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Toronto
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    A couple of interesting omissions: Edgar and Akindele

    Any idea why Hutch is not playing? Has he retired from the CMNT?
     

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