2015 NWSL Playoff Picture

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  1. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tried to analyze the rest of the season and make some predictions. Here's what I came up with (being somewhat optimistic for the Spirit):

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max  Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---  -5- -8-  12  16  22  26  29 -5-
    SEA  30  5  45  --- --- HOU --- Hou BOS SKY Was
    CHI  27  6  45  --- Por SKY WAS WNY --- Wny HOU
    WAS  24  6  42  --- Bos WNY Chi --- Fkc Por SEA
    HOU  20  5  35  --- SKY Sea --- SEA --- BOS Chi
    FKC  19  5  34  --- WNY POR --- BOS WAS --- Sky
    POR  16  6  34  BOS CHI Fkc --- Sky --- WAS Wny
    WNY  18  5  33  --- Fkc Was --- Chi --- CHI POR
    SKY  14  5  29  --- Hou Chi --- POR --- Sea FKC
    BOS  12  5  27  Por WAS --- --- Fkc Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA: WTWWL  -> 40 points - Easy schedule late helps
    WAS: WWWTTW -> 38 points - Chicago match will be key
    CHI: TWLWTW -> 38 points - Tough at home
    FKC: WWWTT  -> 30 points - Only one away game left, and that's vs. SKY
    HOU: WLTWL  -> 27 points - Home-and-home with SEA doesn't help
    POR: WTLTLT -> 22 points - Hasn't impressed
    WNY: LLLTT  -> 20 points - Road trip doesn't help
    SKY: LLTLT  -> 16 points - No reason to expect improvement
    BOS: LLLLL  -> 12 points - All road except vs. determined WAS team
    
    
     
  2. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated after last night's game. A real battle shaping up for the final playoff spot with four teams within two points of each other and all with the same number of games left. I think FC Kansas City has the best chance with the easiest schedule (four home games, and the one road game is against Sky Blue), but if any of the four get hot, they could take it.

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max  Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---  -8-  12  16  22  26  29 -5-
    SEA  30  5  45  --- HOU --- Hou BOS SKY Was
    CHI  27  6  45  Por SKY WAS WNY --- Wny HOU
    WAS  24  6  42  Bos WNY Chi --- Fkc Por SEA
    HOU  20  5  35  SKY Sea --- SEA --- BOS Chi
    FKC  19  5  34  WNY POR --- BOS WAS --- Sky
    POR  19  5  34  CHI Fkc --- Sky --- WAS Wny
    WNY  18  5  33  Fkc Was --- Chi --- CHI POR
    SKY  14  5  29  Hou Chi --- POR --- Sea FKC
    BOS  12  4  24  WAS --- --- Fkc Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA:  W TWWL -> 40 points - Easy schedule late helps
    WAS: WWW TTW -> 38 points - Chicago match will be key
    CHI: TWLW TW -> 38 points - Tough at home
    FKC: WW WT T -> 30 points - Only one away game left, and that's vs. SKY
    HOU: WL T WL -> 27 points - Home-and-home with SEA doesn't help
    POR: TL T LT -> 22 points - Is BOS game an exception or the new rule?
    WNY: LL L TT -> 20 points - Road trip doesn't help
    SKY: LL T LT -> 16 points - No reason to expect improvement
    BOS: L  LLL  -> 12 points - No signs of life
    
     
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  3. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    (Darn you for posting while I was typing, SCF!!)

    So, last night's 5-2 Portland win has done two things:
    -propel Portland back into the playoff picture
    -eliminate Boston from anything higher than 4th

    1. Portland is now one point above WNY, tied with KC, and one point shy of HOU. It's worth noting, though, that POR hasn't beaten anyone below them in the standings

    2. Now, in theory, BOS can still finish tied with WAS, and since they've only played one 1-1 draw so far, BOS could get the tiebreak over WAS. However, that could only happen if BOS wins out and WAS loses out. Obviously BOS winning out is highly unlikely, but the mathematical elimination comes from the possibility of WAS losing out. If WAS loses out, that brings FKC/POR/WNY to 22/22/21, respectively, and all three still have to play each other. (The fact they all play each other is also why SEA can't finish lower than 6th at the moment.) Since WNY already has the tiebreak over BOS, all three games would have to be draws to make sure no-one tops BOS's 24max. However, POR now has the tiebreak over BOS, so even seeing all three of those games being draws would still prevent BOS from reaching the top 3.
     
  4. luvdagame

    luvdagame Member+

    Jul 6, 2000
    don't you mean above?
     
  5. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Indeed. And I can't edit it any more... boo.
     
  6. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Wait... wat dis?
    http://www.nwslsoccer.com/News/888478.html
    Go home NWSL, you're drunk.
     
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  7. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
  8. Tokonta

    Tokonta Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    #8 Tokonta, Aug 6, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2015
    Still to early to tell!
     
  9. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated with the weekend's results. Also upgraded the expectations for Portland and gave up on the idea of Washington winning any away games:

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---    12  16  22  26  29 -5-
    SEA  30  5  45   HOU --- Hou BOS SKY Was
    CHI  27  5  42   SKY WAS WNY --- Wny HOU
    WAS  24  5  39   WNY Chi --- Fkc Por SEA
    FKC  22  4  34   POR --- BOS WAS --- Sky
    POR  22  4  34   Fkc --- Sky --- WAS Wny
    HOU  20  4  32   Sea --- SEA --- BOS Chi
    WNY  18  4  30   Was --- Chi --- CHI POR
    SKY  17  4  29   Chi --- POR --- Sea FKC
    BOS  15  3  24   --- --- Fkc Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    CHI: WWW TW -> 40 points - POR loss a surprise, but still tough at home
    SEA: W TWWL -> 40 points - Easy schedule late helps but lose TB to Red Stars
    FKC: T WW T -> 30 points - Only one away game left, and that's vs. SKY
    WAS: WL LLW -> 30 points - Road ineptitude is costing them
    POR: T T WT -> 28 points - Two home wins big, but now have to go on road
    HOU: L T WL -> 24 points - Loss to SKY hurt
    WNY: L L TT -> 20 points - Road trip doesn't help
    SKY: L T LT -> 19 points - No reason to expect improvement
    BOS:   LLL  -> 15 points - Unlikely to repeat success vs. WAS on road
    
     
  10. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Considering Chicago's current poor form, even at home (so many draws) and Washington's history with Chicago, I think your guess for the 8/16 game still needs to be changed...
     
  11. Tokonta

    Tokonta Member

    Dec 11, 2008
    You forget who is Coaching DC and Chicago and where the game is going to be played! Rory will definitely have his hand in it an Mparsons won't figure it out before its to late!
     
  12. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated with the latest. Even with a bunch of surprise results that have roiled the overall standings, my prediction of the four playoff teams hasn't changed, just their order:

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---    16  22  26  29 -5-
    SEA  33  4  45   --- Hou BOS SKY Was
    CHI  28  4  40   WAS WNY --- Wny HOU
    WAS  25  4  37   Chi --- Fkc Por SEA
    FKC  25  3  34   --- BOS WAS --- Sky
    POR  22  3  31   --- Sky --- WAS Wny
    HOU  20  3  29   --- SEA --- BOS Chi
    WNY  19  3  28   --- Chi --- CHI POR
    SKY  18  3  27   --- POR --- Sea FKC
    BOS  15  3  24   --- Fkc Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA:  TWWL -> 40 points - Cruising to another shield
    CHI: WW TW -> 38 points - Poor recent results eliminating chance to catch Seattle
    FKC:  WW T -> 32 points - POR win was big
    WAS: L LLW -> 28 points - Still in line for #4, but not much to earn it lately
    POR:  T WT -> 27 points - KC loss hurts
    HOU:  T WL -> 24 points - Not doing enough
    WNY:  L TT -> 21 points - Tie vs. WAS not nearly enough
    SKY:  T LT -> 20 points - No reason to expect improvement
    BOS:  LLL  -> 15 points - Unlikely to repeat success vs. WAS on road
    
     
  13. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am laughing at the idea that anyone is predicting WNY to draw Portland. That'll be an easy 3 points for the Thorns.
     
  14. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We'll see. I thought the exact same thing about the last two Spirit matches.
     
  15. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #15 StarCityFan, Aug 16, 2015
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2015
    Despite the Spirit-Red Stars result being contrary to my expectation, it changed my prediction of the final standings not at all:

    Code:
    
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---    22  26  29 -5-
    SEA  33  4  45   Hou BOS SKY Was
    WAS  28  3  37   --- Fkc Por SEA
    CHI  28  3  37   WNY --- Wny HOU
    FKC  25  3  34   BOS WAS --- Sky
    POR  22  3  31   Sky --- WAS Wny
    HOU  20  3  29   SEA --- BOS Chi
    WNY  19  3  28   Chi --- CHI POR
    SKY  18  3  27   POR --- Sea FKC
    BOS  15  3  24   Fkc Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA: TWWL -> 40 points - Cruising to another shield
    CHI: W TW -> 35 points - Still in good shape for #2
    FKC: WW T -> 32 points - POR win was big
    WAS:  LLW -> 31 points - Probably need WWT to finish for #2
    POR: T WT -> 27 points - KC loss hurts
    HOU: T WL -> 24 points - Loss to SKY hurt
    WNY: L TT -> 21 points - Tie vs. WAS not nearly enough
    SKY: T LT -> 20 points - Hanging by a thread
    BOS: LLL  -> 15 points - Eliminated from playoff hunt
    
     
  16. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Many things got settled this weekend. Still undecided are the final playoff spot and the exact order of finish:

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---    26  29 -5-
    SEA  36  3  45   BOS SKY Was
    WAS  28  3  37   Fkc Por SEA
    CHI  29  2  35   --- Wny HOU
    FKC  28  2  34   WAS --- Sky
    POR  22  2  28   --- WAS Wny
    SKY  21  2  27   --- Sea FKC
    HOU  20  2  26   --- BOS Chi
    WNY  20  2  26   --- CHI POR
    BOS  15  2  21   Sea Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA: WWL -> 42 points - Cruising to another shield
    CHI:  TW -> 33 points - In playoffs despite themselves
    FKC: W T -> 32 points - In playoffs because of themselves
    WAS: LLW -> 31 points - Need 1 pt for playoff spot, 6 for home
    POR:  WT -> 26 points - Shooting themselves in the foot
    HOU:  WL -> 24 points - Eliminated
    WNY:  TT -> 21 points - Eliminated
    SKY:  LT -> 20 points - Eliminated despite win
    BOS: LL  -> 15 points - The less said the better
    
     
  17. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    While most things are settled, three things are not: shield, spoon, and last playoff spot. (Well, and home field advantage in the playoffs, I guess.) Interestingly, of those three, the Spirit are involved in two - not only are they still in the fight for the last playoff spot, but they're also the only team left capable of catching the Reign for the Shield.

    =edit= ignore that last paragraph
     
  18. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Would love to see the final game decide the shield, but given the remaining schedule and current points for each team, that seems highly unlikely.
     
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  19. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And so much for that - all the playoff teams are now set, and Seattle has claimed the top spot again. Only serious question left is who hosts the other semifinal.

    Code:
    
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---    29 -5-
    SEA  39  2  45   SKY Was
    WAS  29  2  35   Por SEA
    CHI  29  2  35   Wny HOU
    FKC  29  1  32   --- Sky
    POR  22  2  28   WAS Wny
    SKY  21  2  27   Sea FKC
    HOU  20  2  26   BOS Chi
    WNY  20  2  26   CHI POR
    BOS  15  1  18   Hou ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA: WL -> 42 points - Have claimed the shield again
    CHI: TW -> 33 points - In playoffs despite themselves
    WAS: LW -> 32 points - Final playoff team
    FKC:  T -> 30 points - In playoffs because of themselves
    POR: WT -> 26 points - Eliminated
    HOU: WL -> 24 points - Eliminated
    WNY: TT -> 21 points - Eliminated
    SKY: LT -> 20 points - Eliminated
    BOS: L  -> 15 points - The less said the better
    
    
     
  20. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    If the Red Stars come in second, I don't see why they can't host at Toyota Park.
     
  21. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Spirit blowing a 2-goal lead tonight means they've lost control of hosting semifinal - now need to beat Seattle and hope Chicago loses to or ties Houston. Also need to beat Seattle to avoid having to play them at home in semis, where they've never lost.

    Code:
    Team Pts L Max   Schedule (HOME games in caps)
    ---- --- - ---   -5-
    SEA  40  1  43   Was
    CHI  32  1  35   HOU
    WAS  30  1  33   SEA
    FKC  29  1  32   Sky
    POR  23  1  26   Wny
    HOU  23  1  26   Chi
    SKY  22  1  25   FKC
    WNY  20  1  23   POR
    BOS  15  0  15   ---
    
    My predictions:
    SEA: L -> 40 points - Have claimed the shield again
    CHI: W -> 35 points - Ahead for other home semi
    WAS: W -> 33 points - Tie means they need help for home semi
    FKC: T -> 30 points - If DC loses/ties SEA, they can claim #3
    POR: T -> 24 points - Eliminated
    HOU: L -> 23 points - Eliminated
    SKY: T -> 23 points - Eliminated
    WNY: T -> 21 points - Eliminated
    BOS:   -> 15 points - Game over, man. Game over.
    
     
  22. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    On one hand, I want a CHI-FKC semifinal, since CHI-WAS spells certain doom for the Red Stars. OTOH, I think WAS has the worst @SEA matchup, and I want SEA out ASAP.
     
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  23. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's an exhaustive table of all possible playoff scenarios here.
     
  24. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
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  25. Blaze20

    Blaze20 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Seattle Reign FC
    Sep 22, 2009
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence

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