2015-2018 HONDA ESTILO's SV Horn

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  1. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    I opened a thread only because I thought it will be interesting to follow the development of this story. Honda Estilo bought 49% of the club.
    The club is in 3rd division btw, so there hardly will be anything exciting for a while.

    Announcement: http://www.svhorn.at/?news_id=1884
    english: https://www.facebook.com/svhorn.at/posts/10153417059389083



    Eventually, the thread title will be changed if notable japanese players join the club, which obviously won't be the case at least until they get promoted.
    There's going to be a large tryout for japanese players in the end of june!

    Please note that Honda Estilo is not "Keisuke Honda" although the connection is obvious since it's his management company.

    I'm also not sure who "Youji Honda" is. It's not Keisuke's brother. Anyone knows?
    edit: oh wait, or could it be another brother of Keisuke?

    Masaki Morass is also playing a part, as expected.
     
  2. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Maybe some player will go there.
     
  3. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    http://www.svhorn.at/?news_id=1889

    apparently Youji is Honda's... cousin :D
    They're setting a 4-year goal to reach the 1st div. Not going to be easy, but we'll see. 2 mln € is the budget for the next season.
     
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  4. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
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  5. BigDnm01

    BigDnm01 Member

    May 14, 2011
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    How many Japanese players can they add to SV Horn roster? What rules are there in Austria non-UEFA players?
     
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  6. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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    it's an interesting question but the answer is not easy. I have tried to take a look but I don't know where to find the rules. For example, I had understood that you simply had to field around 5 austrian players in the lineup... however if you watch Salzburg, they don't even do that. So, I'm really not sure.
    The number is likely quite high, though.
     
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  7. datschge

    datschge Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    Germany
    Just looked it up, it's a very interesting rule and easily confusing as they don't use any concept of foreigners anymore. Instead they need to have at least 5 Eigenbauspieler (home grown players) and 5 Verbandsspieler (federation players) for any given match. A player counts as Eigenbauspieler if he started in U12 (or earlier I suppose) or has been at least 3 years (or 2 years in U teams) at the same club (interruptions are allowed it seems). He counts as Verbandsspieler once he played at least for 5 years in Austria. All data is apparently tracked digitally by the ÖFB. Not following this rule automatically results in a 0-3 loss for the offending club.

    Source: http://www.fanreport.com/at/bgld/news/hintergrundinformation-auslaenderregelung-neu-64182
     
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  8. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Wait, I'm slightly confused.
    You said 5 Eigenbauspieler (home grown players) and 5 Verbandsspieler (federation players).
    But... is this the starting lineup? That'd mean 10 players out of 11 need to fall into one of these categories and it seems really hard to believe...
     
  9. datschge

    datschge Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    Germany
    Not necessarily on the field, 10 of the (usually) 16 players of the match squad.
     
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  10. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    SV Horn plays against Qarabag tomorrow in preseason, and, at the same time, there will be the first 100-men screening in Ajinomoto Stadium by Honda Estilo.
    Among them, there should be Consadole's Shota Sakaki.

    Those who will make it, will travel to Austria for the final selection which is currently scheduled in "early july"
     
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  11. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Correction:
    Apparently, Shota Sasaki, likely being a more proven player than the other trialists, was already sent on trial directly to SV Horn.
    Infact, he scored against Qarabagh yesterday. The match ended 4-3 for SV Horn, and it's available here
    According to Horn's facebook page, he was brought to the hospital mid-match though.

    There's also another japanese player there, called Rintaro Yajima ('93). A former Urawa youth, he moved out to SV Horn in january, from Meiji University. However, he appeared only in 5 matches and little minutes.
     
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  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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  13. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    A certain somebody was in Horn to do some light training
    [​IMG]

    He'll join AC Milan's pre season this friday.

    There was also a testmatch, which Keisuke assisted. Sakaki scored again and Nagai played the second half.
    SV Horn - Kremser SC 3-0
    Tore: 36' Weinwurm, 65' Sakaki, 82' Preininger
     
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  14. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    I made the cut as well.
     
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  15. Whispered11

    Whispered11 Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Rome, Italy
    Club:
    UC Sampdoria
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
  16. nipponbasse83

    nipponbasse83 Member+

    Jun 17, 2007
    Ichikawa, Chiba, Japan
    Club:
    Consadole Sapporo
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Sakaki, not Sasaki=)

    From being labelled "The Messi of Hokkaido", Sakaki´s career have really not gone anywhere ever since he debuted back in 2011. He had a decent 2012 when Consadole were in J1, and even scored 2 goals, but havent scored a single goal since. He struggled with some long-term injuries which obviously have affected his development, but with such speed, technique and agility one should think he had the potential to become a J-hero.

    Maybe a move to Europe can get his career back on track? Being 163cm, he must be one of the shortest players in the game though!
     
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  17. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    haha yes, I knew I would write Sasaki at least once in these posts XD
    Anyway currently it is not clear yet if he and Nagai made it.
     
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  18. Dax

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  19. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    more precisely re: Nagai, Honda commented that he "is lacking technically, but has potential." He passed the tryout but needs to make a decision after he returns to Japan on whether to join Horn or remain in college.
     
  20. HerrDrSon

    HerrDrSon New Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    Hi, I'm a journalist interested in the project in Horn.
    As some of you seem to be from Japan, could you tell me how big of a news this was in Japan? There was japanese media around in Horn, but is this really raising interest in Japan?
    Also, is Honda Estilo a big player in the business? They say they've got 50 schools, how much is that when put in perspective?

    Thanks and greetings from Austria
     
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  21. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not much time now, but a few links in Japanese:
    http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/world/news/1508651.html
    http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/world/news/1508649.html
    http://www.tokyo-sports.co.jp/sports/soccer/355486/
    http://www.nikkansports.com/soccer/japan/news/p-sc-tp2-20141120-1398369.html

    Long story short, what has been reported in the media in Japan are pretty much the facts of the situation, with some color around Honda's entrepreneurial philosophy and ambitions to develop an international network of football academies.

    PM if you need more help.
     
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  22. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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  23. Dax

    Dax Moderator
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    Feb 29, 2012
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    First goal for Sakaki in the league in a... 8-1 win (5-1 at HT :eek: )
     
  24. Dax

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    Feb 29, 2012
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